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Frank Ratcliff
Senior Project Manager
Wessex AHSN
Frank.Ratcliff@wessexahsn.net
“The £100 Billion Customer; Doing Business with the NHS”.
Frank Ratcliff
Bill Gillespie
Wessex Academic Health Science Network
Contents:
Follow the Money; existing structure of the NHS; Frank Ratcliff
Current pressures and changes; how the NHS is evolving; Bill
Gillespie
Simple Selling Strategies; Frank Ratcliff
Not really £100bn.
NHS alone is £120bn.
LaingBuisson Healthcare Market Review, 28th edition, 2015
Total UK is ~£165bn.
“The” NHS doesn’t exist…….
The Kings Fund view….
19>6
£120bn
£72bn
50%-80%->90%
£3.9bn
£?
Bill’s story…..
NHS 2-3000 patients
Contract with CCG
NHS
Quality
Outcomes
Framework
QOF; “a stich in time saves nine?”
Diabetes
Asthma
COPD
Stroke
Dementia
Heart disease
+16
Register / Prevalence
Treatment to target
Annual reviews
Prevent illness
www.gpcontract.co.uk
Points make prizes…..
£?
HRG
HSCIC/NHS Digital/SUS/HES
Tariff
Invoice
CCG pays Hospital (NHS?)
XS bed-days?
30 day re-admissions?
Bill’s story…..
Bill’s story…..
£?
£23,250?
Southern Health
NHS Trust
Agency
contract
CCG;
Stop people getting ill
Prevention
Keep poorly people out of hospital
Frequent Fliers personal care plans
Intermediate care teams
Diagnose + prevent
Acute;
Early discharge
Reduced cost pathways
No 30 day re-admissions
Avoid fines (RTT)/infection
GPs;
Not enough of them
Not enough time
League tables
Tick boxes
Education
Council;
Public Health
National Living Wage?
NI rise
Council tax rises capped.
Care Agency;
Handing back contracts?
Families;
Want to keep Bill at home
Agency fee £300/week
Care Home £1500/week
Patient
Outcomes
VFM;
Timescales
Product
Commercial
return
Decisions decisions. E
V
I
D
E
N
C
E
A word about NICE…(National Institute for Health and Care Excellence)
Guidelines
Technology Appraisals
Interventional Procedures Guidance
Medical Technology Guidance
Diagnostics Guidance
Highly specialised technologies guidance
Necessary, but not sufficient.
Lots of rules, no police.
NICE is changing too…..
Fee for service; TAs
Office for Market Access
NHS Supply chain (DHL) + NHS Shared Business Services (Virtual Stock)
Barcodes / GS1 / Scan 4 Safety
Procurement
Estates
Specialised commissioning
Some lose ends…..
Help !!??!!
AHSNs - push
Health Innovation Programme
Health Innovation Surgery
Health Innovation Forum
Funding Support Service
Investor Showcase
NHS – Pull
AHSNs
Directors of transformation/innovation
NIA
Accelerated access review
Innovation Tariffs
National and Regional Priorities
LEPS
UKTI
Dept International Trade
Councils
SBRI Healthcare
Summary;
NHS is complex, and big.
Everyone cares about the patient, but……
Understand the organisations, money flow and drivers.
Help is out there.
NHS is changing……
Bill Gillespie
Wessex AHSN Chief Executive Officer
What’s happening in the NHS?
From this… …to this
Moving away from….
Commissioner/provider split
Primacy of Foundation
Trust/Trust Governance
Domination of Payment by
Results financial system
Disaggregated provider
landscape – acute +
primary care
Sub-optimal scale for
specialised servicesSharp separation between commissioner
& provider performance management
Failure to
join up and
exploit
data across
settings of
care
Predominantly
reactive model
of care
… and moving to this….
Blurring of
commissioner/provider
boundary eg prime contractor
roles, vanguards, ACO-type
models
Emerging system governance
- STPs, SROs, system control
totals
New financial models –
outcome-based eg “Year of
Care”, Innovation Tariffs
Consolidation of providers
- hospital chains, place-based
integration, GP federations
Consolidation of
specialised hospital
services
Joined up data and population
segmentation and risk stratification
Service models
driven by data
insights, inc patient-
generated data –
agnostic on setting
of care
Increase in user-led service
design supported by ease of
capturing patient-generated
data. Self-management a
critical theme
National/regional
performance management
of system aligned to
direction of travel
A spectrum of proportionate
evaluation recognising pace of
technological advances?????
Predictive, preventive care models
Evolution not revolution
From this… …to this
The implications for industry
Positives
• Greater NHS system working removes some key
barriers to adoption
• STPs
• Vanguards
• Greater willingness to explore different financial
models
• Does the model incentivise the right
behaviours – prevention, self-management,
pro-active management of conditions, patient
resilience?
• Does the model make it easier for
commissioner eg convergence of pharma +
medtech?
• Data seen as an asset – products which
support population segmentation, risk
stratification and pro-active management will
be attractive
• Products supporting workforce productivity,
including “virtual multidisciplinary teams” will be
attractive
• Products which resonate with the “lived
experience” of patients/carers – eg multiple
morbidities of an ageing population
• Provider consolidation may make it easier to do
business at scale
Challenges
• The system is in transition - this will take years
• Caldecott 3 and increasing fears over cyber-security
may inhibit use of data for population health
management (what is secondary use?)
• System changes and level of operational pressure
may preoccupy managers and boards
• Providers need to acknowledge and be responsive
to “digital divide”, “harder to reach groups”. The
NHS values equity
• The system can be highly ambivalent towards
piecemeal, incremental improvements versus
wholesale, pathway change
• Disruptive innovation may resisted by some
powerful groups within the system
Frank Ratcliff
Simple Selling Strategies.
Simple Selling Strategies.
Frank Ratcliff
My experience?
Your experience…..
Best and worst BUYING experience;
WHY?
• process, not product.
• what was good….left you recommending
to others
• what left you annoyed / frustrated?
Simple Selling Strategies.
1. Be prepared
2. Find the need
3. Fill the need (or walk!)
4. Objections
5. Close – next steps.
Great…thanks for
your help!
I feel like I’ve just
been sold to!
X
Sales models…..
1)Be prepared.
• Who are you going to see?
• What’s their role?
board minutes; “declarations of interest”
• What’s are you aiming to achieve?
• What do you need to ask?
• What key facts do you need to say?
• What do you need to take?
Do your research;
• Google
• www.gpcontact.co.uk
• HES data
• https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/
• https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/
…be prepared.
• Introduce yourself, the company AND;
• “The Benefit Statement”
• Why should they listen?
• Practice….practice….practice!
I’d like to explore
whether we can reduce
your XYZ costs…
I think I can help you
increase your income from
ABC
I think you had ZZ hospital
acquired infections last year,
and I’d like to talk about how
we could help reduce that
number.
Tell-sell = no-sell
2) Aim to help - Find the need!
Understand their role, and levers
Commodities/competitive market;
• How is their current supplier?
• Frequency?
• Volume?
• Quality?
• Reliability?
• Price?
“We have an IT product that will
help keep people out of hospital.
We’ve spoken to all our local
hospitals, and no one is
interested”.
What are your
priorities at the
moment?
Are you happy with
how things currently
are, or could
anything be better?
Un-recognised needs;
• Open questions….
• scale
• frequency
• value
• desire
3) Fill the need.
Once you’ve understood, or agreed their problem……
Can your product help?
If it can’t, then politely walk away.
If it can, then explain features AND Benefits.
My device has this
button/switch/menu/camera/
etc……
Which means that for you,
the costs go down, the
quality goes up, things
happens faster etc…
5) Objections – a gift
• Listen
• Acknowledge
• Check
• Respond
• Check
• Close
“Yes, but….”
Opportunity to learn customer’s;
• Understanding
• Buying process
• Timescales
• Budgets
• Quality thresholds
• ETC!
PRACTICE
PRACTICE
PRACTICE
PRACTICE
PRACTICE
PRACTICE
!!???WTF??
4) Close
What are your thoughts?
What’s the next step?
How do we move this forward?
Could you introduce me to…
Could I have a copy of that document?
Summarise actions……
Summary;
• Be prepared
• Have a plan for the call
• Aim to help
• Listen
• Practice
Questions?

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The £100bn customer; doing business with the NHS

  • 1. Frank Ratcliff Senior Project Manager Wessex AHSN Frank.Ratcliff@wessexahsn.net “The £100 Billion Customer; Doing Business with the NHS”. Frank Ratcliff Bill Gillespie Wessex Academic Health Science Network
  • 2. Contents: Follow the Money; existing structure of the NHS; Frank Ratcliff Current pressures and changes; how the NHS is evolving; Bill Gillespie Simple Selling Strategies; Frank Ratcliff
  • 3. Not really £100bn. NHS alone is £120bn. LaingBuisson Healthcare Market Review, 28th edition, 2015 Total UK is ~£165bn.
  • 4. “The” NHS doesn’t exist……. The Kings Fund view….
  • 6. £? Bill’s story….. NHS 2-3000 patients Contract with CCG NHS Quality Outcomes Framework
  • 7. QOF; “a stich in time saves nine?” Diabetes Asthma COPD Stroke Dementia Heart disease +16 Register / Prevalence Treatment to target Annual reviews Prevent illness www.gpcontract.co.uk Points make prizes…..
  • 8. £? HRG HSCIC/NHS Digital/SUS/HES Tariff Invoice CCG pays Hospital (NHS?) XS bed-days? 30 day re-admissions? Bill’s story…..
  • 10. CCG; Stop people getting ill Prevention Keep poorly people out of hospital Frequent Fliers personal care plans Intermediate care teams Diagnose + prevent Acute; Early discharge Reduced cost pathways No 30 day re-admissions Avoid fines (RTT)/infection GPs; Not enough of them Not enough time League tables Tick boxes Education Council; Public Health National Living Wage? NI rise Council tax rises capped. Care Agency; Handing back contracts? Families; Want to keep Bill at home Agency fee £300/week Care Home £1500/week
  • 13. A word about NICE…(National Institute for Health and Care Excellence) Guidelines Technology Appraisals Interventional Procedures Guidance Medical Technology Guidance Diagnostics Guidance Highly specialised technologies guidance Necessary, but not sufficient. Lots of rules, no police. NICE is changing too….. Fee for service; TAs Office for Market Access
  • 14. NHS Supply chain (DHL) + NHS Shared Business Services (Virtual Stock) Barcodes / GS1 / Scan 4 Safety Procurement Estates Specialised commissioning Some lose ends…..
  • 15. Help !!??!! AHSNs - push Health Innovation Programme Health Innovation Surgery Health Innovation Forum Funding Support Service Investor Showcase NHS – Pull AHSNs Directors of transformation/innovation NIA Accelerated access review Innovation Tariffs National and Regional Priorities LEPS UKTI Dept International Trade Councils SBRI Healthcare
  • 16. Summary; NHS is complex, and big. Everyone cares about the patient, but…… Understand the organisations, money flow and drivers. Help is out there. NHS is changing……
  • 17. Bill Gillespie Wessex AHSN Chief Executive Officer
  • 18. What’s happening in the NHS? From this… …to this
  • 19. Moving away from…. Commissioner/provider split Primacy of Foundation Trust/Trust Governance Domination of Payment by Results financial system Disaggregated provider landscape – acute + primary care Sub-optimal scale for specialised servicesSharp separation between commissioner & provider performance management Failure to join up and exploit data across settings of care Predominantly reactive model of care
  • 20. … and moving to this…. Blurring of commissioner/provider boundary eg prime contractor roles, vanguards, ACO-type models Emerging system governance - STPs, SROs, system control totals New financial models – outcome-based eg “Year of Care”, Innovation Tariffs Consolidation of providers - hospital chains, place-based integration, GP federations Consolidation of specialised hospital services Joined up data and population segmentation and risk stratification Service models driven by data insights, inc patient- generated data – agnostic on setting of care Increase in user-led service design supported by ease of capturing patient-generated data. Self-management a critical theme National/regional performance management of system aligned to direction of travel A spectrum of proportionate evaluation recognising pace of technological advances????? Predictive, preventive care models
  • 21. Evolution not revolution From this… …to this
  • 22. The implications for industry Positives • Greater NHS system working removes some key barriers to adoption • STPs • Vanguards • Greater willingness to explore different financial models • Does the model incentivise the right behaviours – prevention, self-management, pro-active management of conditions, patient resilience? • Does the model make it easier for commissioner eg convergence of pharma + medtech? • Data seen as an asset – products which support population segmentation, risk stratification and pro-active management will be attractive • Products supporting workforce productivity, including “virtual multidisciplinary teams” will be attractive • Products which resonate with the “lived experience” of patients/carers – eg multiple morbidities of an ageing population • Provider consolidation may make it easier to do business at scale Challenges • The system is in transition - this will take years • Caldecott 3 and increasing fears over cyber-security may inhibit use of data for population health management (what is secondary use?) • System changes and level of operational pressure may preoccupy managers and boards • Providers need to acknowledge and be responsive to “digital divide”, “harder to reach groups”. The NHS values equity • The system can be highly ambivalent towards piecemeal, incremental improvements versus wholesale, pathway change • Disruptive innovation may resisted by some powerful groups within the system
  • 24. Simple Selling Strategies. Frank Ratcliff My experience? Your experience…..
  • 25. Best and worst BUYING experience; WHY? • process, not product. • what was good….left you recommending to others • what left you annoyed / frustrated?
  • 26. Simple Selling Strategies. 1. Be prepared 2. Find the need 3. Fill the need (or walk!) 4. Objections 5. Close – next steps. Great…thanks for your help! I feel like I’ve just been sold to! X Sales models…..
  • 27. 1)Be prepared. • Who are you going to see? • What’s their role? board minutes; “declarations of interest” • What’s are you aiming to achieve? • What do you need to ask? • What key facts do you need to say? • What do you need to take? Do your research; • Google • www.gpcontact.co.uk • HES data • https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/ • https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/
  • 28. …be prepared. • Introduce yourself, the company AND; • “The Benefit Statement” • Why should they listen? • Practice….practice….practice! I’d like to explore whether we can reduce your XYZ costs… I think I can help you increase your income from ABC I think you had ZZ hospital acquired infections last year, and I’d like to talk about how we could help reduce that number.
  • 29. Tell-sell = no-sell 2) Aim to help - Find the need! Understand their role, and levers Commodities/competitive market; • How is their current supplier? • Frequency? • Volume? • Quality? • Reliability? • Price? “We have an IT product that will help keep people out of hospital. We’ve spoken to all our local hospitals, and no one is interested”. What are your priorities at the moment? Are you happy with how things currently are, or could anything be better? Un-recognised needs; • Open questions…. • scale • frequency • value • desire
  • 30. 3) Fill the need. Once you’ve understood, or agreed their problem…… Can your product help? If it can’t, then politely walk away. If it can, then explain features AND Benefits. My device has this button/switch/menu/camera/ etc…… Which means that for you, the costs go down, the quality goes up, things happens faster etc…
  • 31. 5) Objections – a gift • Listen • Acknowledge • Check • Respond • Check • Close “Yes, but….” Opportunity to learn customer’s; • Understanding • Buying process • Timescales • Budgets • Quality thresholds • ETC! PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE !!???WTF??
  • 32. 4) Close What are your thoughts? What’s the next step? How do we move this forward? Could you introduce me to… Could I have a copy of that document? Summarise actions……
  • 33. Summary; • Be prepared • Have a plan for the call • Aim to help • Listen • Practice