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How much data is needed
to calculate LTV?
Eric Benjamin Seufert
GDC Data Science Meetup @ N3TWORK
March 20, 2018
Who I am
N3TWORK Mobile Dev
Memo
Freemium
Economics
Who I am
Review: How do we build an LTV estimate?
- Get clarity on model;
- Get clarity on early stage signal
Review: How do we build an LTV estimate?
- If we’re confident in the model, we
can use early-stage monetization
data to project out to some goal LTV
metric (“Day X LTV”);
- Eg. if we want to recoup our money
in 90 days, we should project a Day
90 LTV; if we are confident in our
model, perhaps we can estimate a
Day 90 LTV with just 7 days of data.
Review: How do we build an LTV estimate?
- 7 days isn’t a long time. But how much data do we need to even get a comfortable, robust estimate of
7-day LTV?
The Approach
- Simulate the collection of monetization data to understand how many users it takes to get a good
estimate on Day 7 LTV;
The Funnel
- As we acquire users into our app,
we accumulate data over time;
- The amount of data we have at Day
X is a function of the input new
users + retention + days that new
users have been acquired;
- With 100% user retention, with 100
DNU running for 4 days, we have
400 data points for Day 1, 300 data
points for Day 2, 200 data points for
Day 3, and 100 data points for Day
4 (only one cohort has reached Day
4 in our app);
- Adding in a typical retention curve
makes this degradation in data size
even more pronounced.
The Approach
- Simulate the collection of monetization data to understand how many users it takes to get a good
estimate on Day 7 LTV;
- Build some reasonable assumptions of how our app / marketing performs:
The Approach
- Generate a retention curve:
The Approach
- Generate a retention curve:
The Approach
- Simulate cohorts joining the app by using a pareto distribution to model monetization
The Approach
- Stack up the monetization by Day to come up with LTVs
The Approach
- Calculate confidence intervals for each Day X LTV
The Approach
- Calculate confidence intervals for each Day X LTV - 5 Days of cohorts,
500 users per day
- Day 4 LTV CI 95%
is $0.38 -> $0.62
- $0.24 difference,
nearly 50%!
- And that’s just Day
4!
The Approach
- What about 90 days of traffic buying? - Day 5 has a tight CI
- But Day 90 spread
is large
Thanks!
@eric_seufert
eric@mobiledevmemo.com

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How much data is needed to calculate LTV?

  • 1. How much data is needed to calculate LTV? Eric Benjamin Seufert GDC Data Science Meetup @ N3TWORK March 20, 2018
  • 2. Who I am N3TWORK Mobile Dev Memo Freemium Economics
  • 4. Review: How do we build an LTV estimate? - Get clarity on model; - Get clarity on early stage signal
  • 5. Review: How do we build an LTV estimate? - If we’re confident in the model, we can use early-stage monetization data to project out to some goal LTV metric (“Day X LTV”); - Eg. if we want to recoup our money in 90 days, we should project a Day 90 LTV; if we are confident in our model, perhaps we can estimate a Day 90 LTV with just 7 days of data.
  • 6. Review: How do we build an LTV estimate? - 7 days isn’t a long time. But how much data do we need to even get a comfortable, robust estimate of 7-day LTV?
  • 7. The Approach - Simulate the collection of monetization data to understand how many users it takes to get a good estimate on Day 7 LTV;
  • 8. The Funnel - As we acquire users into our app, we accumulate data over time; - The amount of data we have at Day X is a function of the input new users + retention + days that new users have been acquired; - With 100% user retention, with 100 DNU running for 4 days, we have 400 data points for Day 1, 300 data points for Day 2, 200 data points for Day 3, and 100 data points for Day 4 (only one cohort has reached Day 4 in our app); - Adding in a typical retention curve makes this degradation in data size even more pronounced.
  • 9. The Approach - Simulate the collection of monetization data to understand how many users it takes to get a good estimate on Day 7 LTV; - Build some reasonable assumptions of how our app / marketing performs:
  • 10. The Approach - Generate a retention curve:
  • 11. The Approach - Generate a retention curve:
  • 12. The Approach - Simulate cohorts joining the app by using a pareto distribution to model monetization
  • 13. The Approach - Stack up the monetization by Day to come up with LTVs
  • 14. The Approach - Calculate confidence intervals for each Day X LTV
  • 15. The Approach - Calculate confidence intervals for each Day X LTV - 5 Days of cohorts, 500 users per day - Day 4 LTV CI 95% is $0.38 -> $0.62 - $0.24 difference, nearly 50%! - And that’s just Day 4!
  • 16. The Approach - What about 90 days of traffic buying? - Day 5 has a tight CI - But Day 90 spread is large