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5 Tenets to Success SaaS
Metrics
February 25, 2015
Housekeeping
• Q&A panel on your right
• Recording for colleagues who can’t make it
• All attendees will receive slides
• Twitter hashtag #customersuccess
Our Speakers
Lincoln Murphy
Customer Success Evangelist
lmurphy@gainsight.com
@lincolnmurphy
David Spitz
Managing Director
Software Investment Banking
dspitz@pacific-crest.com
@dspitz
Disclosure
This document has been prepared by Pacific Crest Securities. Information contained herein has been obtained from
sources believed to be reliable, but the accuracy and completeness of the information, and that of the opinions based
thereon, are not guaranteed. This document is for information purposes only and is not an offer to buy or sell or a
solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities mentioned. Pacific Crest Securities and entities and persons associated
with it, including its analysts, may have long or short positions or effect transactions in the securities of companies
mentioned in this report, and may increase or decrease such holdings without notice. Pacific Crest Securities may make a
market in the shares of any such company. These markets may be changed at anytime without notice. Pacific Crest
Securities may have acted as lead or co-managing underwriter in one or more of such company’s U.S. equity offerings,
and it may perform or seek to perform other investment banking services for any company referenced in this document.
Pacific Crest’s specific disclosures can be seen here: http://www.pacific-crest.com/disclosures/
Pacific Crest’s privacy policy can be seen here: http://www.pacific-crest.com/privacy-policy/
Survey respondents participated anonymously and confidentially. Responses were received through online surveys taken
in June-July 2014. Pacific Crest cannot verify accuracy of responses. Observations and commentary contained herein
relate solely to the survey results and cannot necessarily be applied elsewhere.
Can
measure
churn
Can’t
1. Why are metrics like LTV, CAC, and
Churn more important in SaaS?
Traditional Perpetual
License Software
SaaS
o “One and Done”
o Revenues minus costs
essentially tell the story
o LTV and CAC
o Dollar Retention
o Land and Expand
VS. John
LTV CAC
?
ARR  Gross Margin
Churn
$ Cost to Acquire
a Customer
Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results
156 respondents
Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014
Annual Gross Dollar Churn
“What percentage of total ACV on a dollar basis churns in a given year (excluding upsells)?”
# of Responses
AnnualGrossDollarChurn
Median ≈6%
59
48
20
13
16
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70
<5%
5-10%
10-15%
15-20%
>20%
243 respondents
Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014
30
15
15
39
34
35
75
0 20 40 60 80
<90%
90-95%
95-100%
~100%
100-105%
105-110%
>110%
Median ≈ 103%
100%+NetRetention
(Upsellsgreater
thanchurn)
NetChurn
(Churngreater
thanupsells)
Net Dollar Retention (Including Upsells and Expansions)
“How much do you expect your ACV from existing customers to change,
including the effect of both churn and upsells?”
Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results
# of Responses
Respondents: New ACV from New Customer: 159, Upsell to Existing Customer: 151, Renewals: 153
Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014
Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results
Customer Acquisition Cost
“How much do you spend on a fully-loaded sales & marketing cost basis
to acquire $1 of ACV from a customer?”
$0.60
$0.10 $0.06
$1.44
$0.46
$0.26
$1.07
$0.18
$0.12
$0.00
$0.25
$0.50
$0.75
$1.00
$1.25
$1.50
New ACV from New
Customer
Upsell to Existing
Customer
Renewals
75th percentile
25th percentile
Median
Source: SuccessFactors Roadshow Presentation
Cohort Analysis Example – SuccessFactors IPO Roadshow Slide
2. Isn’t Customer Success more about a
“relationship?”
Relationship
thinking is
crucial
Relationship based on the customer’s success
Success Advocacy
http://www.saastr.com/its-not-just-cltv-its-your-trgcltv-that-matters-total-all-in-revenue-generated-by-your-customer/
3. So I have benchmarks… How do I use
them? What are the implications for my
business?
182 and 181 respondents, respectively
Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014
Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results
2
23
32
37
18
14
17
6
9
24
2
13
36
32
28
19
10
16
10
15
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
<0% 0%-10% 10%-20% 20%-30% 30%-40% 40%-50% 50%-60% 60-80% 80-100% >100%
NumberofCompanies
2013 GAAP Revenue Growth 2014E GAAP Revenue Growth
Median 2013 GAAP Rev Growth ≈ 29%
Median 2014E GAAP Rev Growth ≈ 33%
GAAP Revenue Growth
“How fast did you grow GAAP revenues in 2013?
How fast will you grow GAAP revenues in 2014?”
WDAY
NOW
DWRE
VEEV
N
ZEN
PFPT
PCTY
TXTR
MKTO
CSOD
ULTI
BNFT
ATHN
CVT
CRM
QLYS
OPWR
SPSC
AMBR
QTWO
ECOM
EOPN
TWOU
PAYC
FLTX
LOGM
RNG
TRAK
FIVN
CTCT
SQI
MRIN
RALY
>34% Mean
24-34% Mean
18-24% Mean
<18% Mean
YDLE
HUBS
NEWR
BOX
WK
0.0x
4.0x
8.0x
12.0x
0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60%
EV/CY2016ERevenueMultiple
Projected CY2015E Revenue Growth
Source: Capital IQ and company filings
Note: Pricing as of February 23, 2015
Public SaaS Company Revenue Multiples as a Function of Growth
>34%24-34%18-24%<18%
’14-’15E Revenue Growth
Huge Impact to Sustained Differences in Churn
$0
$50,000
$100,000
$150,000
$200,000
$250,000
$300,000
$350,000
$400,000
$450,000
$500,000
1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 31 34 37 40
Month
$0
$50,000
$100,000
$150,000
$200,000
$250,000
$300,000
$350,000
$400,000
$450,000
$500,000
1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 31 34 37 40
Month
Cohort Performance with
+3% Monthly Churn
Cohort Performance with
-3% Monthly Churn
Source: www.forentrepreneurs.com “SaaS Metrics 2.0”
4. How do we think about benchmarking customers?
5. How do we get started?
Benchmarking Yourself Against Others
• Peers
• Investors
• Analysts
• Pacific Crest’s SaaS Survey
• SaaS Capital’s Survey
• Gainsight SuccessIndex
Benchmarking Your Customers
 Ensure you’re collecting the required data and
that it can be anonymized
 (Not a Lawyer, but…) Ensure you’re Terms of
Service, Privacy Policy, Contract, etc. is updated
 If opt-in is required, position is as a win-win-win
for all involved
6. Bonus – what should I
NOT do?
Case Study: XYZ Corp.
Year 1 Year 2
Attractive Subscription
Revenue Growth
$54M
 $72M
(+33% growth)
Excellent Gross Margins 76%
 80%
Reasonable Monthly Churn 1.3%
 1.4%
Positive Trends in Customer
Count and Average ACV
1,150
$50K  1,450
$55K
Sales & Marketing Expense
Ratios Mirroring Many High
Growth Companies
63%
of revenues  83%
of revenues
Question: How attractive is this?
Year 1 Year 2
LTV
$50K x 76%
= $253K

$55K x 80%
= $254K
15% 17%
CAC
$34M
= $113K

$59M
= $118K
300 500
LTV / CAC 2.25x
 2.15x
Case Study: XYZ Corp. (cont’d)
Customer Detail
Customers (Beginning) 1,000 1,150
New Customers 300 500
Churn (150) (200)
Customers (End) 1,150 1,450
Annual Churn 15% 17%
ACV $50K $55K
Q&A
Lincoln Murphy
Customer Success Evangelist
lmurphy@gainsight.com
@lincolnmurphy
David Spitz
Managing Director
Software Investment Banking
dspitz@pacific-crest.com
@dspitz
Thank You!
February 25, 2015

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Customer Success: The Secret to Subscription Success and the Metrics that Matter

  • 1. 5 Tenets to Success SaaS Metrics February 25, 2015
  • 2. Housekeeping • Q&A panel on your right • Recording for colleagues who can’t make it • All attendees will receive slides • Twitter hashtag #customersuccess
  • 3. Our Speakers Lincoln Murphy Customer Success Evangelist lmurphy@gainsight.com @lincolnmurphy David Spitz Managing Director Software Investment Banking dspitz@pacific-crest.com @dspitz
  • 4. Disclosure This document has been prepared by Pacific Crest Securities. Information contained herein has been obtained from sources believed to be reliable, but the accuracy and completeness of the information, and that of the opinions based thereon, are not guaranteed. This document is for information purposes only and is not an offer to buy or sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities mentioned. Pacific Crest Securities and entities and persons associated with it, including its analysts, may have long or short positions or effect transactions in the securities of companies mentioned in this report, and may increase or decrease such holdings without notice. Pacific Crest Securities may make a market in the shares of any such company. These markets may be changed at anytime without notice. Pacific Crest Securities may have acted as lead or co-managing underwriter in one or more of such company’s U.S. equity offerings, and it may perform or seek to perform other investment banking services for any company referenced in this document. Pacific Crest’s specific disclosures can be seen here: http://www.pacific-crest.com/disclosures/ Pacific Crest’s privacy policy can be seen here: http://www.pacific-crest.com/privacy-policy/ Survey respondents participated anonymously and confidentially. Responses were received through online surveys taken in June-July 2014. Pacific Crest cannot verify accuracy of responses. Observations and commentary contained herein relate solely to the survey results and cannot necessarily be applied elsewhere.
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  • 7. 1. Why are metrics like LTV, CAC, and Churn more important in SaaS?
  • 8. Traditional Perpetual License Software SaaS o “One and Done” o Revenues minus costs essentially tell the story o LTV and CAC o Dollar Retention o Land and Expand VS. John
  • 9. LTV CAC ? ARR  Gross Margin Churn $ Cost to Acquire a Customer
  • 10. Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results 156 respondents Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014 Annual Gross Dollar Churn “What percentage of total ACV on a dollar basis churns in a given year (excluding upsells)?” # of Responses AnnualGrossDollarChurn Median ≈6% 59 48 20 13 16 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 <5% 5-10% 10-15% 15-20% >20%
  • 11. 243 respondents Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014 30 15 15 39 34 35 75 0 20 40 60 80 <90% 90-95% 95-100% ~100% 100-105% 105-110% >110% Median ≈ 103% 100%+NetRetention (Upsellsgreater thanchurn) NetChurn (Churngreater thanupsells) Net Dollar Retention (Including Upsells and Expansions) “How much do you expect your ACV from existing customers to change, including the effect of both churn and upsells?” Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results # of Responses
  • 12. Respondents: New ACV from New Customer: 159, Upsell to Existing Customer: 151, Renewals: 153 Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014 Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results Customer Acquisition Cost “How much do you spend on a fully-loaded sales & marketing cost basis to acquire $1 of ACV from a customer?” $0.60 $0.10 $0.06 $1.44 $0.46 $0.26 $1.07 $0.18 $0.12 $0.00 $0.25 $0.50 $0.75 $1.00 $1.25 $1.50 New ACV from New Customer Upsell to Existing Customer Renewals 75th percentile 25th percentile Median
  • 13. Source: SuccessFactors Roadshow Presentation Cohort Analysis Example – SuccessFactors IPO Roadshow Slide
  • 14. 2. Isn’t Customer Success more about a “relationship?”
  • 16. Relationship based on the customer’s success
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  • 21. 3. So I have benchmarks… How do I use them? What are the implications for my business?
  • 22. 182 and 181 respondents, respectively Note: Survey responses as of June / July 2014 Results from 2014 Pacific Crest Private SaaS Company Survey Results 2 23 32 37 18 14 17 6 9 24 2 13 36 32 28 19 10 16 10 15 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 <0% 0%-10% 10%-20% 20%-30% 30%-40% 40%-50% 50%-60% 60-80% 80-100% >100% NumberofCompanies 2013 GAAP Revenue Growth 2014E GAAP Revenue Growth Median 2013 GAAP Rev Growth ≈ 29% Median 2014E GAAP Rev Growth ≈ 33% GAAP Revenue Growth “How fast did you grow GAAP revenues in 2013? How fast will you grow GAAP revenues in 2014?”
  • 23. WDAY NOW DWRE VEEV N ZEN PFPT PCTY TXTR MKTO CSOD ULTI BNFT ATHN CVT CRM QLYS OPWR SPSC AMBR QTWO ECOM EOPN TWOU PAYC FLTX LOGM RNG TRAK FIVN CTCT SQI MRIN RALY >34% Mean 24-34% Mean 18-24% Mean <18% Mean YDLE HUBS NEWR BOX WK 0.0x 4.0x 8.0x 12.0x 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% EV/CY2016ERevenueMultiple Projected CY2015E Revenue Growth Source: Capital IQ and company filings Note: Pricing as of February 23, 2015 Public SaaS Company Revenue Multiples as a Function of Growth >34%24-34%18-24%<18% ’14-’15E Revenue Growth
  • 24. Huge Impact to Sustained Differences in Churn $0 $50,000 $100,000 $150,000 $200,000 $250,000 $300,000 $350,000 $400,000 $450,000 $500,000 1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 31 34 37 40 Month $0 $50,000 $100,000 $150,000 $200,000 $250,000 $300,000 $350,000 $400,000 $450,000 $500,000 1 4 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 31 34 37 40 Month Cohort Performance with +3% Monthly Churn Cohort Performance with -3% Monthly Churn Source: www.forentrepreneurs.com “SaaS Metrics 2.0”
  • 25. 4. How do we think about benchmarking customers?
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  • 31. 5. How do we get started?
  • 32. Benchmarking Yourself Against Others • Peers • Investors • Analysts • Pacific Crest’s SaaS Survey • SaaS Capital’s Survey • Gainsight SuccessIndex
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  • 34. Benchmarking Your Customers  Ensure you’re collecting the required data and that it can be anonymized  (Not a Lawyer, but…) Ensure you’re Terms of Service, Privacy Policy, Contract, etc. is updated  If opt-in is required, position is as a win-win-win for all involved
  • 35. 6. Bonus – what should I NOT do?
  • 36. Case Study: XYZ Corp. Year 1 Year 2 Attractive Subscription Revenue Growth $54M  $72M (+33% growth) Excellent Gross Margins 76%  80% Reasonable Monthly Churn 1.3%  1.4% Positive Trends in Customer Count and Average ACV 1,150 $50K  1,450 $55K Sales & Marketing Expense Ratios Mirroring Many High Growth Companies 63% of revenues  83% of revenues Question: How attractive is this?
  • 37. Year 1 Year 2 LTV $50K x 76% = $253K  $55K x 80% = $254K 15% 17% CAC $34M = $113K  $59M = $118K 300 500 LTV / CAC 2.25x  2.15x Case Study: XYZ Corp. (cont’d) Customer Detail Customers (Beginning) 1,000 1,150 New Customers 300 500 Churn (150) (200) Customers (End) 1,150 1,450 Annual Churn 15% 17% ACV $50K $55K
  • 38. Q&A Lincoln Murphy Customer Success Evangelist lmurphy@gainsight.com @lincolnmurphy David Spitz Managing Director Software Investment Banking dspitz@pacific-crest.com @dspitz

Notes de l'éditeur

  1. Segment Customers in Meaningful Ways (to them) Choose a Few Metrics that Matter (to them)
  2. Provide(s) Incentives for Self-Identification
  3. Make the Benchmarking Actionable What can they do with this information?
  4. Use Benchmarks to Guide, Influence, and Encourage their Journey
  5. Figure out the One Metric that Matters