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Stabilization Policies
  - Drowning in Debt?

       Sandro Scocco
Chairman of Global Utmaning’s
      Economic Council
High Unemployment:
               Great need for further countercyclical policies!
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                                                                                                                     Germany
                                                                                                                     Greece
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     1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
Relatively strong rebound due to early focus
         on countercyclical policies
     Global industrial production                                Global stock market development




  Source: Barry Eichengreen Kevin H. O’Rourke 8 March 2010 www.voxeu.org
Countercyclical policies are expensive…
                              Source: OECD Economic Outlook
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… and the traditionally weakest are in crisis (PIIGS)
                      10 year bond rates
The Real Villain:
European saving imbalances as a result of interest
         rate convergence in the EMU
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… and China joining the WTO in 2001
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                                                        Public debt in the G20 at a historical high




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Who will pay the public debt?

“In addition to providential rapid growth, there are three, and only three, ways
of bringing down public debts.

• The first one is to run primary surpluses for a sufficiently long time.
• The second one is to default on all or part of the debt.
• The last one is to let inflation reduce the real debt value, assuming that the
debt is not indexed and of sufficiently long maturity.           Households

In the end, the question is who will pay: taxpayers in the first case, creditors in
the second case, citizens who are not well protected against inflation in the
third case.”


Public Debts: Nuts, Bolts and Worries 2011
Barry Eichengreen, Robert Feldman, Jeffrey Liebman, Jürgen von Hagen and Charles Wyplosz
High household indebtedness starts to fall…
…and housing prices follow
Can housholds and the public sector deleverage
    simultaneously without hurting growth?
• No, not ceteris paribus – obvious risk of vicious
  circles. Austerity programmes increase households’
  wish to deleverage

• Yes, if income redistribution policies target
  propensity to consume. Increased demand without
  increased public or private indebtedness
30 years of targeting propensity to save/invest
          Top one per cent’s share of total income
The two stories of the US post-war era
Financial bail-outs reversed wealth tax




“… a €200 billion subsidy to sovereign creditors is a gigantic wealth transfer from the taxpayer to
essentially the richest 5% of the world. In the US, the 5% richest households control roughly 70% of
all financial wealth, and this percentage is not much different in the rest of the world. Ultimate … we
should characterise the bailout subsidy as an "impôt pour la fortune" (“a tax for wealth”) – a wealth
tax supporting the rich.”

Harald Hau
Professor of Economics and Finance, University of Geneva
"The Chinese use two brush strokes to
                  write the word 'crisis'. One brush stroke
                  stands for danger; the other for
                  opportunity. In a crisis, be aware of the
                  danger-but recognize the opportunity."


John F. Kennedy

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Sandro Scocco: Stabilization policies - drowning in debt?

  • 1. Stabilization Policies - Drowning in Debt? Sandro Scocco Chairman of Global Utmaning’s Economic Council
  • 2. High Unemployment: Great need for further countercyclical policies! 30 25 20 Germany Greece Ireland 15 Italy Portugal Spain 10 United Kingdom United States 5 0 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
  • 3. Relatively strong rebound due to early focus on countercyclical policies Global industrial production Global stock market development Source: Barry Eichengreen Kevin H. O’Rourke 8 March 2010 www.voxeu.org
  • 4. Countercyclical policies are expensive… Source: OECD Economic Outlook 200 Statsskuld som andel av BNP 1997 Statsskuld som andel av BNP 2007 150 Statsskuld som andel av BNP Skillnad 100 50 0 -50 -100 250 Statsskuld som andel av BNP 2007 Statsskuld som andel av BNP 2011 200 Statsskuld som andel av BNP Skillnad 150 100 50 0 -50 -100
  • 5. … and the traditionally weakest are in crisis (PIIGS) 10 year bond rates
  • 6. The Real Villain: European saving imbalances as a result of interest rate convergence in the EMU 10 5 0 Germany 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 Greece Ireland -5 Italy Portugal Spain -10 -15 -20
  • 7. … and China joining the WTO in 2001 Global Saving imbalances USD (IMF) 600 400 200 0 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 China, People's Republic of -200 United States Euro area -400 -600 -800 -1000
  • 8. 100 120 140 160 20 40 60 80 0 1880 1883 1886 1889 1892 1895 1898 1901 WW2 1904 WW1 1907 1910 1913 1916 1919 1922 1925 1928 1931 1934 1937 1940 1943 1946 1949 1952 1955 1958 1961 1964 1967 1970 1973 1976 1979 1982 1985 1988 1991 1994 1997 Public debt in the G20 at a historical high 2000 2003 2006 2009
  • 9. Who will pay the public debt? “In addition to providential rapid growth, there are three, and only three, ways of bringing down public debts. • The first one is to run primary surpluses for a sufficiently long time. • The second one is to default on all or part of the debt. • The last one is to let inflation reduce the real debt value, assuming that the debt is not indexed and of sufficiently long maturity. Households In the end, the question is who will pay: taxpayers in the first case, creditors in the second case, citizens who are not well protected against inflation in the third case.” Public Debts: Nuts, Bolts and Worries 2011 Barry Eichengreen, Robert Feldman, Jeffrey Liebman, Jürgen von Hagen and Charles Wyplosz
  • 10. High household indebtedness starts to fall…
  • 12. Can housholds and the public sector deleverage simultaneously without hurting growth? • No, not ceteris paribus – obvious risk of vicious circles. Austerity programmes increase households’ wish to deleverage • Yes, if income redistribution policies target propensity to consume. Increased demand without increased public or private indebtedness
  • 13. 30 years of targeting propensity to save/invest Top one per cent’s share of total income
  • 14. The two stories of the US post-war era
  • 15. Financial bail-outs reversed wealth tax “… a €200 billion subsidy to sovereign creditors is a gigantic wealth transfer from the taxpayer to essentially the richest 5% of the world. In the US, the 5% richest households control roughly 70% of all financial wealth, and this percentage is not much different in the rest of the world. Ultimate … we should characterise the bailout subsidy as an "impôt pour la fortune" (“a tax for wealth”) – a wealth tax supporting the rich.” Harald Hau Professor of Economics and Finance, University of Geneva
  • 16. "The Chinese use two brush strokes to write the word 'crisis'. One brush stroke stands for danger; the other for opportunity. In a crisis, be aware of the danger-but recognize the opportunity." John F. Kennedy