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investing101
A #VoxPowerLunch session by
Jonathan Tan, MD, VoxEureka
TABLE OFCONTENTS
INTRO&CAVEATS
Why each journey is
personal
01
WhyInvest?
Debunking myths
and general
principles
02
Gettingstarted
Basic asset classes
and starting your
portfolio
03
Discussion
Open sharing &
learning with each
other
04
INTRO&CAVEATS
01
Why each of our financial
journeys will be different
LEARNING TO ACCEPT/DEAL WITH
OURLOTINLIFE
PRIVILEGE
Family background,
Inheritance, Education
etc.
THEWAYTHINGSARE
Political perks,
Vocational value,
Market prices
LIFE’SCURVEBALLS
By no fault of our own,
life deals us shitty
cards
God, grant me the serenity to
accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I
can, and the wisdom to know the
difference.
Theserenity prayer
Happinessisablend ofacceptance,contentment,andcarpediem.
ReinholdNiebuhr
1892 - 1971
“
”
WhyInvest?
02
Debunking myths and general
principles
IfIinvest,I’llbesuper rich!
IFISAVEinthebank,it’sgood enough
ourvalue ofmoney isgetting smaller
It is challenging for
salaries to keep up
with inflation & cost of
living.
Purchasing Pricing
Parity in Malaysia is in
decline.
You neverknowwhatwillhappen
DEVELOPINGA “RICH”MINDSET
Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNpoc-lF0M
VS
Which‘dad’ are you?
• Earn salary and spend.
• Car loans, taxes, credit card bills creep in
over time – high expenses.
• Enter a life of debt.
• Constantly needing to refinance.
• Getting impossible to save.
• Earn salary – set aside funds.
• Prudent with spending. Controlling
expenses.
• Mixed portfolio of savings and investment
• Goals: generate passive income
• Goals: acquiring assets
• Resisting debt.
Habits ofthe“rich”
• Work hard for their primary income
• Work towards growing additional income
streams
• They acquire assets
• Control & minimize expenses
• Reduce liabilities
• They are motivated to see their money
grow
FINANCIAL SCENARIOS (25year career)
Annual
Gross
Income Wealth (1)%
1% Bank
Savings
3,600RM 36RM
7,416RM 74RM
12,026RM 120RM
16,909RM 169RM
22,079RM 221RM
27,901RM 279RM
34,061RM 341RM
40,577RM 406RM
48,393RM 484RM
56,658RM 567RM
65,394RM 654RM
75,852RM 759RM
86,904RM 869RM
98,582RM 986RM
111,997RM 1,120RM
126,168RM 1,262RM
141,134RM 1,411RM
158,305RM 1,583RM
176,435RM 1,764RM
195,575RM 1,956RM
215,774RM 2,158RM
238,912RM 2,389RM
263,330RM 2,633RM
289,094RM 2,891RM
316,272RM 3,163RM
316,272RM
Wealth (3%)
3% Fixed
Deposit
3,600RM 108RM
7,488RM 222RM
12,246RM 361RM
17,370RM 507RM
22,878RM 662RM
29,142RM 837RM
35,860RM 1,022RM
43,057RM 1,217RM
51,684RM 1,452RM
60,917RM 1,700RM
70,786RM 1,962RM
82,552RM 2,276RM
95,121RM 2,607RM
108,537RM 2,957RM
123,924RM 3,360RM
140,335RM 3,785RM
157,824RM 4,234RM
177,818RM 4,749RM
199,115RM 5,293RM
221,782RM 5,867RM
245,893RM 6,473RM
273,347RM 7,167RM
302,543RM 7,900RM
333,574RM 8,673RM
366,533RM 9,488RM
366,533RM
Wealth (7%)
7%
Investments
3,600RM 252RM
7,632RM 519RM
12,687RM 842RM
18,292RM 1,184RM
24,476RM 1,546RM
31,623RM 1,953RM
39,457RM 2,384RM
48,017RM 2,840RM
58,267RM 3,388RM
69,435RM 3,966RM
81,571RM 4,578RM
95,952RM 5,310RM
111,556RM 6,083RM
128,448RM 6,901RM
147,778RM 7,840RM
168,669RM 8,832RM
191,205RM 9,879RM
216,844RM 11,081RM
244,473RM 12,350RM
274,198RM 13,690RM
306,132RM 15,104RM
342,216RM 16,724RM
380,969RM 18,433RM
422,533RM 20,237RM
467,057RM 22,139RM
467,057RM
EPF
(Employee)
11%
EPF
(Employer)
12%
3,960RM 4,320RM
4,158RM 4,536RM
4,990RM 5,443RM
5,239RM 5,715RM
5,501RM 6,001RM
6,161RM 6,721RM
6,469RM 7,057RM
6,793RM 7,410RM
8,151RM 8,892RM
8,559RM 9,337RM
8,987RM 9,804RM
10,784RM 11,764RM
11,323RM 12,353RM
11,889RM 12,970RM
13,673RM 14,916RM
14,356RM 15,662RM
15,074RM 16,445RM
17,335RM 18,911RM
18,202RM 19,857RM
19,112RM 20,850RM
20,068RM 21,892RM
23,078RM 25,176RM
24,232RM 26,435RM
25,444RM 27,757RM
26,716RM 29,145RM
320,255RM 349,369RM
Increment Promotion/
Job Change
3,000RM 36,000RM
3,150RM 37,800RM
3,780RM 45,360RM
3,969RM 47,628RM
4,167RM 50,009RM
4,668RM 56,011RM
4,901RM 58,811RM
5,146RM 61,752RM
6,175RM 74,102RM
6,484RM 77,807RM
6,808RM 81,697RM
8,170RM 98,037RM
8,578RM 102,939RM
9,007RM 108,086RM
10,358RM 124,298RM
10,876RM 130,513RM
11,420RM 137,039RM
13,133RM 157,595RM
13,790RM 165,475RM
14,479RM 173,748RM
15,203RM 182,436RM
17,483RM 209,801RM
18,358RM 220,291RM
19,275RM 231,306RM
20,239RM 242,871RM
Gross lifetime income 1,824,707RM
Year 1
Year 2
Year 3
Year 4
Year 5
Year 6
Year 7
Year 8
Year 9
Year 10
Year 11
Year 12
Year 13
Year 14
Year 15
Year 16
Year 17
Year 18
Year 19
Year 20
Year 21
Year 22
Year 23
Year 24
Year 25
Assuming you set aside 10% of gross income
Wealthprojection (25years)
KEYTAKEAWAYS: PRINCIPLES
Discipline DESIRE INSTINCT
“I really need to
tahan and just set
this RM200 aside”
“Ooo, not bad. Managed to save
RM1,000 already. Oklar, campak
another RM100 this month.”
“By now, probably got RM5,000 in
the bank di, can put into FD or buy
that CIMB stock.”
HOWTO Invest?
03
Where to get started?
Therearemanyoptions
● Cash (Savings, Fixed Deposits,
ANSB)
● Stocks/ Equity
● Unit Trust/ Mutual Funds
● Commodities (Gold)
● Cryptocurrency
● RoboAdvisers
● Property
● Businesses
INVESTING options
BUT Beforeyou invest,you
needcapital (seedmoney)
• Monitor your salary & expenses for 3 months
• Find the average & record a baseline
• Determine your net cash flow
(income – expenses)
• Set aside money when you get your salary
every month (not spend the leftovers)
BUILD AcashPORTFOLIO
3Accountsinyourmainbank
Emergency
SavingsACCT-2
SavingsACCT-1
FIXED
DEPOSITS
You salary comes here.
Set aside funds.
Leave only enough for you
to use for expenses
30% of X
comes here.
This fund is
untouchable.
When you have thresholds
of RM1,000 in Acct-1, open
an FD account 1-month
rolling.
When your cash portfolio is
strong, mix up your FD with
diff tenures/ amounts.
When reach min. threshold
open an FD
Fixeddeposits
Google “Best FD Promotions 2020”
Things to look out for:
• Minimum deposit
• Tenure (1m, 6m, 12m, 24m) *liquidity is
important
• Effective Interest rate.
• 2019 average was 3.15% (2020 anything
above 2.5% considered good).
• Fine print
Pro-tip:
• Open many FD accounts, don’t put all
eggs in one basket.
• Some 6 months, some 3 months etc.
• 1-month rolling is still better than
conventional savings acct.
How muchcashshould you have
beforeyou start investing?
4-6 months
float: salary
worth of cash
(Savings, FD +
Emergency)
+
Positive net
cash flow of at
least 10-20% of
salary
WHATYou’re building towards:
AMIXED asset portfolio
Never less
than 15%
GETTING STARTED: STOCKS (Shares)
1. When you buy stocks, you’re buying a piece
of ownership (equity) of the company.
2. You can only buy stocks of companies listed
on the Malaysian stock exchange (Bursa
Malaysia)
3. There are 2 ways to make money in stocks:
a) Capital gains in share price * You buy at
RM2,000 and sell at RM3,000 = profit
RM1,000
b) Dividends: Company gives you a
percentage of their profit. Can be annual/
biennial/ quarterly declarations
Howtochoose?
1. Only companies that have profits will give
dividends.
2. Look for blue chip companies that you
personally hold in high reputation.
3. General things to look for:
a) Are they making profits?
b) Do they have stable leadership?
c) Is their industry stable or facing market
challenges?
4. Technical details that can help:
a) dividend yield anything higher than FD is
good, higher better
b) earnings per share (EPS) compare
c) PE ratio (price earning) low means good
value, high means high growth expectations
Howtochoose?WHYMarket news matters
HOWTOBUY
1. Sign up for a CDS trading account. Most
banks have.
2. You have to buy shares in “lots”. In
Malaysia, one lot is 100 shares.
3. So, if share price of Maybank is RM8.08 –
one lot is RM808.
4. Pro-Tip: Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA)
over Lump-Sum Investing (LSI)
NEWINVESTMENT APPS
PROPERTY
1. Should I buy or rent?
2. Buy to stay or Buy to Rent?
3. To stay: Start small. Only buy if you can
maintain the loans. Ask friends for real-
estate contacts to get into deals early.
Look for attractive offers (no booking fee,
free legal etc.)
4. To rent: Location, location, location.
Check the rental market, is it worth the
price you’re paying for it? Potential of the
vicinity (development/ accessibility plans)
5. House prices have not declined, merely
plateaued. It might never come down.
Concluding
remarks
04
Keep it balanced
Takeaways
1. Setting aside is the most important
discipline. Most wealth is simply by
saving over spending and accumulation.
2. Look out for opportunities that will give
you an edge (Bumiputera privileges ,
discounts/ promo, connections)
3. Keep track. Use an expense app. Excel
for your bank accts and asset tracking.
4. #KeepingItBalanced. Money is not
everything, make sure you use it to keep
you happy too.
Money is worthless. What is of value is what you
exchange it for. So, “Splurge on the things that
money can’t buy.”
Q&AThank you!

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Personal Finance - Starting Your Investment Journey

  • 1. Personal investing101 A #VoxPowerLunch session by Jonathan Tan, MD, VoxEureka
  • 2. TABLE OFCONTENTS INTRO&CAVEATS Why each journey is personal 01 WhyInvest? Debunking myths and general principles 02 Gettingstarted Basic asset classes and starting your portfolio 03 Discussion Open sharing & learning with each other 04
  • 3. INTRO&CAVEATS 01 Why each of our financial journeys will be different
  • 4. LEARNING TO ACCEPT/DEAL WITH OURLOTINLIFE PRIVILEGE Family background, Inheritance, Education etc. THEWAYTHINGSARE Political perks, Vocational value, Market prices LIFE’SCURVEBALLS By no fault of our own, life deals us shitty cards
  • 5. God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Theserenity prayer Happinessisablend ofacceptance,contentment,andcarpediem. ReinholdNiebuhr 1892 - 1971 “ ”
  • 9. ourvalue ofmoney isgetting smaller It is challenging for salaries to keep up with inflation & cost of living. Purchasing Pricing Parity in Malaysia is in decline.
  • 11. DEVELOPINGA “RICH”MINDSET Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNpoc-lF0M VS
  • 12. Which‘dad’ are you? • Earn salary and spend. • Car loans, taxes, credit card bills creep in over time – high expenses. • Enter a life of debt. • Constantly needing to refinance. • Getting impossible to save. • Earn salary – set aside funds. • Prudent with spending. Controlling expenses. • Mixed portfolio of savings and investment • Goals: generate passive income • Goals: acquiring assets • Resisting debt.
  • 13. Habits ofthe“rich” • Work hard for their primary income • Work towards growing additional income streams • They acquire assets • Control & minimize expenses • Reduce liabilities • They are motivated to see their money grow
  • 14. FINANCIAL SCENARIOS (25year career) Annual Gross Income Wealth (1)% 1% Bank Savings 3,600RM 36RM 7,416RM 74RM 12,026RM 120RM 16,909RM 169RM 22,079RM 221RM 27,901RM 279RM 34,061RM 341RM 40,577RM 406RM 48,393RM 484RM 56,658RM 567RM 65,394RM 654RM 75,852RM 759RM 86,904RM 869RM 98,582RM 986RM 111,997RM 1,120RM 126,168RM 1,262RM 141,134RM 1,411RM 158,305RM 1,583RM 176,435RM 1,764RM 195,575RM 1,956RM 215,774RM 2,158RM 238,912RM 2,389RM 263,330RM 2,633RM 289,094RM 2,891RM 316,272RM 3,163RM 316,272RM Wealth (3%) 3% Fixed Deposit 3,600RM 108RM 7,488RM 222RM 12,246RM 361RM 17,370RM 507RM 22,878RM 662RM 29,142RM 837RM 35,860RM 1,022RM 43,057RM 1,217RM 51,684RM 1,452RM 60,917RM 1,700RM 70,786RM 1,962RM 82,552RM 2,276RM 95,121RM 2,607RM 108,537RM 2,957RM 123,924RM 3,360RM 140,335RM 3,785RM 157,824RM 4,234RM 177,818RM 4,749RM 199,115RM 5,293RM 221,782RM 5,867RM 245,893RM 6,473RM 273,347RM 7,167RM 302,543RM 7,900RM 333,574RM 8,673RM 366,533RM 9,488RM 366,533RM Wealth (7%) 7% Investments 3,600RM 252RM 7,632RM 519RM 12,687RM 842RM 18,292RM 1,184RM 24,476RM 1,546RM 31,623RM 1,953RM 39,457RM 2,384RM 48,017RM 2,840RM 58,267RM 3,388RM 69,435RM 3,966RM 81,571RM 4,578RM 95,952RM 5,310RM 111,556RM 6,083RM 128,448RM 6,901RM 147,778RM 7,840RM 168,669RM 8,832RM 191,205RM 9,879RM 216,844RM 11,081RM 244,473RM 12,350RM 274,198RM 13,690RM 306,132RM 15,104RM 342,216RM 16,724RM 380,969RM 18,433RM 422,533RM 20,237RM 467,057RM 22,139RM 467,057RM EPF (Employee) 11% EPF (Employer) 12% 3,960RM 4,320RM 4,158RM 4,536RM 4,990RM 5,443RM 5,239RM 5,715RM 5,501RM 6,001RM 6,161RM 6,721RM 6,469RM 7,057RM 6,793RM 7,410RM 8,151RM 8,892RM 8,559RM 9,337RM 8,987RM 9,804RM 10,784RM 11,764RM 11,323RM 12,353RM 11,889RM 12,970RM 13,673RM 14,916RM 14,356RM 15,662RM 15,074RM 16,445RM 17,335RM 18,911RM 18,202RM 19,857RM 19,112RM 20,850RM 20,068RM 21,892RM 23,078RM 25,176RM 24,232RM 26,435RM 25,444RM 27,757RM 26,716RM 29,145RM 320,255RM 349,369RM Increment Promotion/ Job Change 3,000RM 36,000RM 3,150RM 37,800RM 3,780RM 45,360RM 3,969RM 47,628RM 4,167RM 50,009RM 4,668RM 56,011RM 4,901RM 58,811RM 5,146RM 61,752RM 6,175RM 74,102RM 6,484RM 77,807RM 6,808RM 81,697RM 8,170RM 98,037RM 8,578RM 102,939RM 9,007RM 108,086RM 10,358RM 124,298RM 10,876RM 130,513RM 11,420RM 137,039RM 13,133RM 157,595RM 13,790RM 165,475RM 14,479RM 173,748RM 15,203RM 182,436RM 17,483RM 209,801RM 18,358RM 220,291RM 19,275RM 231,306RM 20,239RM 242,871RM Gross lifetime income 1,824,707RM Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 Year 6 Year 7 Year 8 Year 9 Year 10 Year 11 Year 12 Year 13 Year 14 Year 15 Year 16 Year 17 Year 18 Year 19 Year 20 Year 21 Year 22 Year 23 Year 24 Year 25 Assuming you set aside 10% of gross income
  • 16. KEYTAKEAWAYS: PRINCIPLES Discipline DESIRE INSTINCT “I really need to tahan and just set this RM200 aside” “Ooo, not bad. Managed to save RM1,000 already. Oklar, campak another RM100 this month.” “By now, probably got RM5,000 in the bank di, can put into FD or buy that CIMB stock.”
  • 18. Therearemanyoptions ● Cash (Savings, Fixed Deposits, ANSB) ● Stocks/ Equity ● Unit Trust/ Mutual Funds ● Commodities (Gold) ● Cryptocurrency ● RoboAdvisers ● Property ● Businesses INVESTING options
  • 19. BUT Beforeyou invest,you needcapital (seedmoney) • Monitor your salary & expenses for 3 months • Find the average & record a baseline • Determine your net cash flow (income – expenses) • Set aside money when you get your salary every month (not spend the leftovers)
  • 20. BUILD AcashPORTFOLIO 3Accountsinyourmainbank Emergency SavingsACCT-2 SavingsACCT-1 FIXED DEPOSITS You salary comes here. Set aside funds. Leave only enough for you to use for expenses 30% of X comes here. This fund is untouchable. When you have thresholds of RM1,000 in Acct-1, open an FD account 1-month rolling. When your cash portfolio is strong, mix up your FD with diff tenures/ amounts. When reach min. threshold open an FD
  • 21. Fixeddeposits Google “Best FD Promotions 2020” Things to look out for: • Minimum deposit • Tenure (1m, 6m, 12m, 24m) *liquidity is important • Effective Interest rate. • 2019 average was 3.15% (2020 anything above 2.5% considered good). • Fine print Pro-tip: • Open many FD accounts, don’t put all eggs in one basket. • Some 6 months, some 3 months etc. • 1-month rolling is still better than conventional savings acct.
  • 22. How muchcashshould you have beforeyou start investing? 4-6 months float: salary worth of cash (Savings, FD + Emergency) + Positive net cash flow of at least 10-20% of salary
  • 23. WHATYou’re building towards: AMIXED asset portfolio Never less than 15%
  • 24. GETTING STARTED: STOCKS (Shares) 1. When you buy stocks, you’re buying a piece of ownership (equity) of the company. 2. You can only buy stocks of companies listed on the Malaysian stock exchange (Bursa Malaysia) 3. There are 2 ways to make money in stocks: a) Capital gains in share price * You buy at RM2,000 and sell at RM3,000 = profit RM1,000 b) Dividends: Company gives you a percentage of their profit. Can be annual/ biennial/ quarterly declarations
  • 25. Howtochoose? 1. Only companies that have profits will give dividends. 2. Look for blue chip companies that you personally hold in high reputation. 3. General things to look for: a) Are they making profits? b) Do they have stable leadership? c) Is their industry stable or facing market challenges? 4. Technical details that can help: a) dividend yield anything higher than FD is good, higher better b) earnings per share (EPS) compare c) PE ratio (price earning) low means good value, high means high growth expectations
  • 27. HOWTOBUY 1. Sign up for a CDS trading account. Most banks have. 2. You have to buy shares in “lots”. In Malaysia, one lot is 100 shares. 3. So, if share price of Maybank is RM8.08 – one lot is RM808. 4. Pro-Tip: Dollar Cost Averaging (DCA) over Lump-Sum Investing (LSI)
  • 29. PROPERTY 1. Should I buy or rent? 2. Buy to stay or Buy to Rent? 3. To stay: Start small. Only buy if you can maintain the loans. Ask friends for real- estate contacts to get into deals early. Look for attractive offers (no booking fee, free legal etc.) 4. To rent: Location, location, location. Check the rental market, is it worth the price you’re paying for it? Potential of the vicinity (development/ accessibility plans) 5. House prices have not declined, merely plateaued. It might never come down.
  • 31. Takeaways 1. Setting aside is the most important discipline. Most wealth is simply by saving over spending and accumulation. 2. Look out for opportunities that will give you an edge (Bumiputera privileges , discounts/ promo, connections) 3. Keep track. Use an expense app. Excel for your bank accts and asset tracking. 4. #KeepingItBalanced. Money is not everything, make sure you use it to keep you happy too. Money is worthless. What is of value is what you exchange it for. So, “Splurge on the things that money can’t buy.”