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DESIGN THE
CONVERSATION:
A CASE STUDY ON MAKING A
DIGITAL BANKING EXPERIENCE
CLEAR AND HUMAN
Sara Zailskas Walsh
sara.walsh@capitalone.com
J. Boye Aarhus November 2016
My background
2
JOURNALISM
B2B
ASSOCIATION
B2C
USER EXPERIENCE
PRODUCT DESIGN
ECOMMERCE
PRINT, DIGITAL
TRAVEL
CHICAGOAN AT HEART …
NOW IN SAN FRANCISCO
”
At Capital One, we say we
design conversations that
solve customer problems.
”
We’re on a mission to
change banking for good.
”
We bring simplicity,
humanity, and ingenuity
to banking by putting the
customer first.
”
We design conversations
that are clear and
relevant.
Every conversation is guided by 3 pillars.
8
”
We apply 3 pillars when
designing what to say, to
whom, when, and how.
Natural
Language
1
2
3
Use Case
Relevant Context
”
The approach works.
In this case, we took a
26% completion rate to
92% by designing the
conversation.
”
That’s what we’re going to talk
about today: 

How we used conversation
design in the online account
opening experience 

for small-business owners.
”
It was not meeting our goals.
I’m a small business owner trying to open a checking
account online. I need to provide information to open my
account, but I can’t because:
- The words aren’t clear to me.
- I don’t have context to answer questions.
- I’m not sure what I need to apply.


This makes me feel frustrated. It also wastes my time.
CUSTOMER PROBLEM
”
In one question, we
asked customers to select
their industry from a drop-
down list.
”
Each took 4 minutes 

on average to do so.
”
The “beneficial owners”
section had a high
abandon rate.
”
(“Beneficial owners” is a
made-up term.)
”
Customers described our
experience as “fine,”
“frustrating,” and “what I’d
expect from a bank.”
”
We had to do something.
The turnaround
CONVERSATIONAL DESIGN TO THE RESCUE
”
Tip: 

Involve all disciplines.
We put a team together.
21
All disciplines represented. I led activities to understand what “every single word” should be.
1
Simon
Design Lead
1 1
11
17
Helen
UX Researcher
1Sara
Sr. Content
Strategist
Kevin
Front-End
Developer &
Prototyper
Paul
Sr. Interaction
Designer
2
Nick & Kyo
Visual Design
x4
Product
Owners
2
Engineering
Leads
1
Brand
Partners
3
Customer
Support
3
Legal,
Compliance
& Risk
Work PartnersDesigners
”
Tip: 

Do your research.
Discovery activities
24
๏ Benchmark research
๏ Competitive research
๏ Conversation bubbles!
๏ Customer interviews
๏ Banker interviews
๏ Journey maps
๏ Concept research
๏ Content research
๏ Internal interviews
”
Tip: 

Write the conversation.
Why writing the
conversation works
26
๏ Spot gaps in your knowledge
๏ Discover use cases
๏ Identify product ideas
๏ Create actual copy you can use
๏ Capture guidelines that naturally surface
Look at the conversation you wrote:
QUICK PRACTICE
SESSION
How to kick off a project to design the conversation
๏Pair up!
๏Write what a conversation would sound like between a customer who’s
comparing mobile phones and the store selling the phones.
๏Capture how you’d say it in person; use human language.
I’m a busy person who isn’t a tech geek, and I need to buy
a new smartphone, but I can’t because there are so many
devices, i’m not sure which to choose.


This makes me feel intimidated and disappointed in
myself that I keep procrastinating.
CUSTOMER PROBLEM
THE QUESTION:
What would a conversation sound like between a
customer shopping for a new mobile phone and the
store selling the phones?
5 MINUTES
Quick analysis of our conversations
*If you’re interested in running this activity yourself, be sure to check out my workshop slides from this conference.
๏ What did you like?
๏ What didn’t you like?
๏ Can you spot ideas?
๏ Can you spot actual copy?
What did we uncover in 5 minutes?
”
We created a strategy for
a completely overhauled
first-time experience.
”
But we had to
compromise for the 

short-term.
Our strategy for 3 months design, 3 months build
35
๏ Overhaul the copy.
๏ Keep the current flow — and the same order of steps.
๏ Overhaul design in the two most troublesome parts: “beneficial
owners” and the industry question.
๏ Update communications such as emails.
Our conversation
BEFORE AND AFTER
”
Tip: 

Find someone who “gets it”
and speaks with customers
every day.
Consult regularly!
— Jose, my banker buddy
“I wouldn’t say it that way.
Instead, try this …”
“My parents — they’re
immigrant small-business
owners — wouldn’t understand
that. It’s too much slang.”
”
Tip: 

Simplify choices as you
would in conversation.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Explain why we’re asking
for information.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Use the natural order of
conversation to inform
your design.
Before
After*
* We partially met this goal
with this release.
”
Tip: 

Prepare the customer for
what’s ahead.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Explain how a decision
affects them.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Give relevant context.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Assume good intent.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Treat a customer well
even when it’s not a good
match.
Before
After
”
Tip: 

Talk to customers — and
share the research.
70
words
182
words
total
70
words
Initial (directional) results
3 WEEKS AFTER LAUNCH …
”
The customers who spent 4
minutes on 1 question?
Now they spend 

4 minutes on the entire page 

(the longest form).
”
People can complete and
move through the application
when they’re ready.
”
Our words are working.
”
“I think the words … are very
simple, very basic, not too
detailed. It’s very clean-cut and
dry. The language is crisp, to-the-
point. … I understood all of it.”
— Beth*, a small-business owner who reviewed copy only before launch
”
“It sounds pretty straightforward,
understandable, personable.”
— Beth*, a small-business owner who reviewed copy only before launch
”
“It’s pretty self-explanatory. There
wasn’t anything that I wonder
what this means.
When I read it, I understood it.”
— Cary*, a small-business owner who reviewed copy only before launch
”
“It’s personal, friendly.”
— Beth*, a small-business owner who reviewed copy only before launch
”
Tip: 

There are no magic
words.
Fun facts
74
๏ Discovery, planning, designing, building and testing took 8 months.
๏ We’re continuing to release additional parts of the experience to make it
easier for people to make their first deposit.
๏ We’ll be applying a larger strategy not shared here to all our products in
2017 because of work on this project.
types of SBs w/
end2end enrollment
new reusable UI
components
unique screens
in 90 days
10 120+ 36+
”
Questions?
CONTACT
AND FIND ME
+1 415-470-3259
sara.walsh@capitalone.com
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We’re hiring in the UK.

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