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when 
remembering 
REALLY 
matters 
Presented by 
Sharon Boller, 
President & Chief Product Officer
WHO AM I? 
Game-lover, learner, instructional designer, 
product owner, game designer, dog-lover and 
owner, Mom, wife, cyclist. 
Oh…and president and chief product officer, 
Bottom-Line Performance.
OUR GAME PLAN 
1 The requirements to learn something 
The challenge of remembering… and the cost of 
2 forgetting 
3 The research on remembering…and forgetting 
4 Strategies for remembering…and for learning 
5 Two case studies that use the strategies
What’s Required to LEARN? 
Motivation Relevant Practice Specific, timely feedback 
Ability to retrieve later 
Right?????
MEMORY TEST #1 
1 x 12 = ____ 
2 x 12 = ____ 
3 x 12 = ____ 
4 x 12 = ____ 
5 x 12 = ____ 
6 x 12 = ____ 
7 x 12 = ____ 
8 x 12 = ____ 
9 x 12 = ____ 
10 x 12 =____ 
11 x 12 =____ 
12 x 12 =____ 
Times Tables 
Raise your hand if you feel VERY 
CONFIDENT that you can answer this set 
of multiplication problems without 
pausing.
MEMORY TEST #2 
Spelling Words 
Write down 5 words as I say them…don’t 
think hard. Just write the words. 
Receive 
Believe 
Experience 
Neighbor 
Friend
MEMORY TEST #3 
1. What year did the Civil 
War begin? 
2. Where did Robert E. 
Lee surrender, ending 
the Civil War? 
3. When did Abraham 
Lincoln deliver the 
Gettysburg address? 
History 
Three American history questions; write 
your answers to each one. Do NOT use 
your cell phone, iPad, or any other device 
to answer. Use your brain only.
So…why did 
you 
remember 
some of this 
stuff, but 
not other 
stuff?
Some stuff you 
need to know 
“cold” 
Other stuff you 
can “find/ 
locate”
Does 
Memory 
HERE 
? 
Matter 
You are a customer support 
engineer for a medical device 
company. You train lab technicians 
how to operate and troubleshoot 
the $250,000 piece of machinery 
their hospital purchased from your 
company. 
Will the hospital be okay if its lab techs have to find/ 
locate info on using the equipment – or does the 
hospital expect lab techs to know common procedures 
“cold?”
Does 
Memory 
HERE 
? 
Matter 
You are a rep in a sales meeting. Your 
customer just shared her needs, and she 
wants a response. You need to mentally 
think through your company’s eight 
product lines, select the RIGHT ONE, and 
then share the appropriate product 
benefits and features. She’s waiting…. 
Can you Google that? How long will she wait while you 
find/locate info? Or…does she expect you to formulate 
a fairly immediate response based on what you 
ALREADY KNOW AND CAN RECALL?
Does 
Memory 
HERE 
? 
Matter 
You are a “skip tracer.” Your job is to 
recover cars if their owners have 
defaulted on a loan. There’s a lot of 
defaults, and the skip tracing 
process contains numerous steps! 
How efficient will you be at doing your job if you are 
constantly finding/locating? What’s okay to look up… 
and what do you simply need to know and know how 
to do from memory? 
What assets go unrecovered if you are slow at the job?
Does 
Memory 
HERE 
? 
Matter 
You are a lab technician. You just 
dropped a vial of blood being tested 
for HIV. It just went SPLAT! 
You KNOW the blood poses a risk. 
You take annual training for this…but 
that was months ago. You recall 
some steps, but you are not sure of 
all of them. 
With blood splattered can you look up the procedure or 
do you need to be able to recall it and apply it to the 
situation at hand?
PEOPLE NEED TO 
REMEMBER A 
LOT OF STUFF IN 
THE WORKPLACE Product Knowledge 
Industry Facts 
Policies & Procedures 
Research Data 
Sales Messages 
What else do people need to 
“know cold” (i.e. from memory?)
Per ATD, we’re spending about $164 BILLION 
on training per year. Are we getting results? 
Time saved… 
or not wasted 
in the first 
place? 
Money 
saved…or 
money 
gained? 
People producing 
more, faster, 
more accurately 
or feeling less 
stressed?
WHAT’S REMEMBERED? 
During training? A week later?
How much forgetting? 
30% in 3 to 6 days’ time 
50% in 3 to 6 days’ time 
70% in 3 to 6 days’ time 
90% (or more) in 3 to 6 days’ time 
A 
B 
C 
D
IT DEPENDS
Let’s be REALLY 
generous and 
assume 30% 
forgetting.
Which 30% is the 
business okay 
with?
REMEMBERING IS 
HARD 
FORGETTING IS 
EASY
FOUR STRATEGIES TO USE 
Spaced intervals – 1 not a single “glop” 
2 Repetition – several instances of it 
3 right after making mistake 
4 Stories 
Feedback – with requirement to do it
Spaced Intervals & 
Repetition 
Micro Spacing Macro Spacing 
Single Session Single Session Single Session 
or 
Day 1 
Day 8 
Day 16
Too Much 
Nothing
SPACING RESEARCH 
Spaced Repetition in the New York Times: 
http://www.theknowledgeguru.com/spaced-repetition-featured-new-york-times/ 
Learning 
Research 
by 
Annie 
Murphy 
Paul: 
Distributed 
Prac9ce 
and 
Spaced 
Repe99on 
h<p://www.theknowledgeguru.com/learning-­‐research-­‐annie-­‐murphy-­‐paul-­‐distributed-­‐prac9ce-­‐ 
repe99on/ 
Spaced Repetition: What Research tells us by Dr. Karl Kapp: 
http://www.theknowledgeguru.com/spaced-retrieval-retrieval-practice-knowledge- 
guru-research-tells-us/ 
Learning 
vs. 
Retrieval 
UCLA 
Bjork 
Learning 
and 
ForgeIng 
Lab: 
h<p://bjorklab.psych.ucla.edu/research.html
FEEDBACK LOOPS
STORIES 
Light up our 
whole brain 
Elicit 
POWERFUL 
Empathic 
response 
Personalize. 
Contextualize.
when remembering 
REALLY 
matters Things I have 
learned in this 
session:: 
1. 
What
Case Study #1 – ExactTarget Product 
Launch (2012 case) 
1. SaaS: 
Mul9ple 
Product 
Lines 
and 
Mul9ple 
Product 
Launches 
• 9 
dis9nct 
product 
lines 
within 
organiza9on 
• Product 
line 
releases 
each 
month 
2. Employees, 
clients, 
and 
partners 
had 
training 
overload; 
company 
needed 
a 
way 
to 
“mix 
it 
up.” 
3. MobileConnect 
was 
one 
of 
the 
largest 
product 
launches 
in 
company 
history. 
Success 
was 
cri/cal.
LEARN + REMEMBER 
Motivation Relevant Practice 
Specific, timely feedback 
Ability to retrieve later 
Spaced Intervals, repetition Story
MOTIVATION 
Intrinsic is about person 
realizing learning will 
help them in their jobs. 
Extrinsic can couple with 
– but not replace – 
intrinsic. In this 
instances, motivation 
was prizes AND 
recognition.
MOTIVATION
MOTIVATION 
Meet 
Paul 
from 
Australia 
Earned 
9tle 
as 
THE 
“Mobile 
Connect 
Guru” 
via 
game 
play. 
“I 
have 
never 
felt 
more 
valued 
in 
company 
that 
I 
have 
since 
becoming 
the 
Mobile 
Connect 
Guru”
STORY as challenge
STORY - context
STORY - context
Spaced Iterations, Relevant Practice, 
Feedback + REPETITION
Repetition – Interation 1
Repetition – Interation 2
Repetition – Interation 3
Feedback + Re-do
MORE Spacing, Repetition
Business Results 
Quicker pipeline built: “Of all the launches done in the 
two years previous to the MobileConnect launch, the sales 
team built one of the quickest pipelines for this product.” 
Dramatic increase in first-call support resolution. 
Greatly increased contract values.
Case 
Study #2 
Dialysis 
Treat-ment 
Business Problems: 
1. Patient post-training drop rate very high. 
2. Time req’d to train a single patient longer than desired. 
3. Only 1 patient per month could be trained. 
As a result, less marketshare and growth in marketshare 
than desired. 
Training Goal: 
“Patients can safely and confidently 
perform ongoing treatments at home.”
They had GLOP
We created spacing
Multiple repetitions
Multiple Repetitions
Practice, Feedback
Stories for empathy 
Characters in the eLearning told stories about 
their own situations; these mirrored the 
realities of the patients going through training. 
“One of biggest hurdles I had to face was learning 
to insert my own needles. I don’t care how brave 
you are, having to stick two needles in my arm 
every time I did a treatment was scary.” 
“I was worried about hurting David when I had to 
stick him with needles…I was not confident I could 
do it.”
RESULTS? 
• Yes! 6% reduction in “patient drops” in patients who 
received NxSteps training over those who were trained via 
another method. (Training for a single patient can typically 
cost $30K or more to do so 6% is a big deal.) 
• A major NxStage customer who used NxSteps program 
viewed it as so successful in improving bottom-line $ 
results for company that it is working to replicate program 
on peritoneal side of business.
Steps 
You 
Can 
Take 
In 
Design 
Ask: 
“What business problem is this 
learning solution solving?” 
To solve the problem, consider 
what is ESSENTIAL for people 
to know, do, believe. 
Distinguish between need to 
be able to “find/locate” from 
need to “know it cold” 
1)
Steps 
You 
Can 
Take 
In 
Design 
If SMEs & stakeholders 
insist on too much 
content, ask: 
“What 30% - 90% are you okay 
with people forgetting…or 
never learning in the first 
place?” 
2)
Steps 
You 
Can 
Take 
In 
Design 
Think beyond “one-hit 
wonder.” 
If remembering REALLY matters, 
then spacing and repetition HAVE 
to be part of your design. 
3) 
Spaced Intervals, repetition
4) 
DESIGN FOR: LEARN + REMEMBER 
Motivation Relevant Practice 
Specific, timely feedback 
Ability to retrieve later 
Spaced Intervals, repetition Story
Too Much 
Nothing 
5) Remember…
Want to 
find 
me? 
Email: 
sharon@ 
bottomlineperformance.com 
Twitter: @Sharon_Boller

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When Remembering REALLY Matters - DevLearn 2014 presentation

  • 1. when remembering REALLY matters Presented by Sharon Boller, President & Chief Product Officer
  • 2. WHO AM I? Game-lover, learner, instructional designer, product owner, game designer, dog-lover and owner, Mom, wife, cyclist. Oh…and president and chief product officer, Bottom-Line Performance.
  • 3. OUR GAME PLAN 1 The requirements to learn something The challenge of remembering… and the cost of 2 forgetting 3 The research on remembering…and forgetting 4 Strategies for remembering…and for learning 5 Two case studies that use the strategies
  • 4. What’s Required to LEARN? Motivation Relevant Practice Specific, timely feedback Ability to retrieve later Right?????
  • 5. MEMORY TEST #1 1 x 12 = ____ 2 x 12 = ____ 3 x 12 = ____ 4 x 12 = ____ 5 x 12 = ____ 6 x 12 = ____ 7 x 12 = ____ 8 x 12 = ____ 9 x 12 = ____ 10 x 12 =____ 11 x 12 =____ 12 x 12 =____ Times Tables Raise your hand if you feel VERY CONFIDENT that you can answer this set of multiplication problems without pausing.
  • 6. MEMORY TEST #2 Spelling Words Write down 5 words as I say them…don’t think hard. Just write the words. Receive Believe Experience Neighbor Friend
  • 7. MEMORY TEST #3 1. What year did the Civil War begin? 2. Where did Robert E. Lee surrender, ending the Civil War? 3. When did Abraham Lincoln deliver the Gettysburg address? History Three American history questions; write your answers to each one. Do NOT use your cell phone, iPad, or any other device to answer. Use your brain only.
  • 8. So…why did you remember some of this stuff, but not other stuff?
  • 9. Some stuff you need to know “cold” Other stuff you can “find/ locate”
  • 10. Does Memory HERE ? Matter You are a customer support engineer for a medical device company. You train lab technicians how to operate and troubleshoot the $250,000 piece of machinery their hospital purchased from your company. Will the hospital be okay if its lab techs have to find/ locate info on using the equipment – or does the hospital expect lab techs to know common procedures “cold?”
  • 11. Does Memory HERE ? Matter You are a rep in a sales meeting. Your customer just shared her needs, and she wants a response. You need to mentally think through your company’s eight product lines, select the RIGHT ONE, and then share the appropriate product benefits and features. She’s waiting…. Can you Google that? How long will she wait while you find/locate info? Or…does she expect you to formulate a fairly immediate response based on what you ALREADY KNOW AND CAN RECALL?
  • 12. Does Memory HERE ? Matter You are a “skip tracer.” Your job is to recover cars if their owners have defaulted on a loan. There’s a lot of defaults, and the skip tracing process contains numerous steps! How efficient will you be at doing your job if you are constantly finding/locating? What’s okay to look up… and what do you simply need to know and know how to do from memory? What assets go unrecovered if you are slow at the job?
  • 13. Does Memory HERE ? Matter You are a lab technician. You just dropped a vial of blood being tested for HIV. It just went SPLAT! You KNOW the blood poses a risk. You take annual training for this…but that was months ago. You recall some steps, but you are not sure of all of them. With blood splattered can you look up the procedure or do you need to be able to recall it and apply it to the situation at hand?
  • 14. PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER A LOT OF STUFF IN THE WORKPLACE Product Knowledge Industry Facts Policies & Procedures Research Data Sales Messages What else do people need to “know cold” (i.e. from memory?)
  • 15. Per ATD, we’re spending about $164 BILLION on training per year. Are we getting results? Time saved… or not wasted in the first place? Money saved…or money gained? People producing more, faster, more accurately or feeling less stressed?
  • 16. WHAT’S REMEMBERED? During training? A week later?
  • 17. How much forgetting? 30% in 3 to 6 days’ time 50% in 3 to 6 days’ time 70% in 3 to 6 days’ time 90% (or more) in 3 to 6 days’ time A B C D
  • 19. Let’s be REALLY generous and assume 30% forgetting.
  • 20. Which 30% is the business okay with?
  • 21. REMEMBERING IS HARD FORGETTING IS EASY
  • 22. FOUR STRATEGIES TO USE Spaced intervals – 1 not a single “glop” 2 Repetition – several instances of it 3 right after making mistake 4 Stories Feedback – with requirement to do it
  • 23. Spaced Intervals & Repetition Micro Spacing Macro Spacing Single Session Single Session Single Session or Day 1 Day 8 Day 16
  • 25. SPACING RESEARCH Spaced Repetition in the New York Times: http://www.theknowledgeguru.com/spaced-repetition-featured-new-york-times/ Learning Research by Annie Murphy Paul: Distributed Prac9ce and Spaced Repe99on h<p://www.theknowledgeguru.com/learning-­‐research-­‐annie-­‐murphy-­‐paul-­‐distributed-­‐prac9ce-­‐ repe99on/ Spaced Repetition: What Research tells us by Dr. Karl Kapp: http://www.theknowledgeguru.com/spaced-retrieval-retrieval-practice-knowledge- guru-research-tells-us/ Learning vs. Retrieval UCLA Bjork Learning and ForgeIng Lab: h<p://bjorklab.psych.ucla.edu/research.html
  • 27. STORIES Light up our whole brain Elicit POWERFUL Empathic response Personalize. Contextualize.
  • 28. when remembering REALLY matters Things I have learned in this session:: 1. What
  • 29. Case Study #1 – ExactTarget Product Launch (2012 case) 1. SaaS: Mul9ple Product Lines and Mul9ple Product Launches • 9 dis9nct product lines within organiza9on • Product line releases each month 2. Employees, clients, and partners had training overload; company needed a way to “mix it up.” 3. MobileConnect was one of the largest product launches in company history. Success was cri/cal.
  • 30. LEARN + REMEMBER Motivation Relevant Practice Specific, timely feedback Ability to retrieve later Spaced Intervals, repetition Story
  • 31. MOTIVATION Intrinsic is about person realizing learning will help them in their jobs. Extrinsic can couple with – but not replace – intrinsic. In this instances, motivation was prizes AND recognition.
  • 33. MOTIVATION Meet Paul from Australia Earned 9tle as THE “Mobile Connect Guru” via game play. “I have never felt more valued in company that I have since becoming the Mobile Connect Guru”
  • 37. Spaced Iterations, Relevant Practice, Feedback + REPETITION
  • 43. Business Results Quicker pipeline built: “Of all the launches done in the two years previous to the MobileConnect launch, the sales team built one of the quickest pipelines for this product.” Dramatic increase in first-call support resolution. Greatly increased contract values.
  • 44. Case Study #2 Dialysis Treat-ment Business Problems: 1. Patient post-training drop rate very high. 2. Time req’d to train a single patient longer than desired. 3. Only 1 patient per month could be trained. As a result, less marketshare and growth in marketshare than desired. Training Goal: “Patients can safely and confidently perform ongoing treatments at home.”
  • 50. Stories for empathy Characters in the eLearning told stories about their own situations; these mirrored the realities of the patients going through training. “One of biggest hurdles I had to face was learning to insert my own needles. I don’t care how brave you are, having to stick two needles in my arm every time I did a treatment was scary.” “I was worried about hurting David when I had to stick him with needles…I was not confident I could do it.”
  • 51. RESULTS? • Yes! 6% reduction in “patient drops” in patients who received NxSteps training over those who were trained via another method. (Training for a single patient can typically cost $30K or more to do so 6% is a big deal.) • A major NxStage customer who used NxSteps program viewed it as so successful in improving bottom-line $ results for company that it is working to replicate program on peritoneal side of business.
  • 52. Steps You Can Take In Design Ask: “What business problem is this learning solution solving?” To solve the problem, consider what is ESSENTIAL for people to know, do, believe. Distinguish between need to be able to “find/locate” from need to “know it cold” 1)
  • 53. Steps You Can Take In Design If SMEs & stakeholders insist on too much content, ask: “What 30% - 90% are you okay with people forgetting…or never learning in the first place?” 2)
  • 54. Steps You Can Take In Design Think beyond “one-hit wonder.” If remembering REALLY matters, then spacing and repetition HAVE to be part of your design. 3) Spaced Intervals, repetition
  • 55. 4) DESIGN FOR: LEARN + REMEMBER Motivation Relevant Practice Specific, timely feedback Ability to retrieve later Spaced Intervals, repetition Story
  • 56. Too Much Nothing 5) Remember…
  • 57. Want to find me? Email: sharon@ bottomlineperformance.com Twitter: @Sharon_Boller