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Postmodernity
Postmodernism
1. Meaning is determined by the person

2. Human authority originates from society

3. Human and Natural Laws are referential

4. Difference between secular & sacred is referential

5. Reason cannot explain all phenomena 

6. Scripture is one of many Sacred Texts, each one may be valid
Model of Bible Interpretation
Text Reader
Translation
Writer’s
Cultural
Milieu
Reader’s
Cultural
Milieu
Audience
Exegete
is
Addressing
Postmodernism: Reader Gives Meaning
Meaning
Review: How We Got Here
Premodern Period
Premodern Period
• Knowledge was mediated
• Truth was transmitted by chain of tradition
• Truth was determined by kings & priests
• Truth was accessible to a few
• Vulgate the authorized Bible
• Vulgate was read in church
• Vulgate was interpreted by the church
• Vernacular was forbidden
Premodern Period
• Hebrew Bible was read in synagogue
• Sages interpreted Scripture
• Re enforced in liturgy & recitation
• Vernacular was forbidden
Premodern Period
Modern Period
Enlightenment
Modernism
The Enlightenment
• Truth became accessible
• Truth freed from religion and authority
• Truth became objective
• Truth became universal (all people, time, contexts)
• Universal scientific laws govern universe
• Universal moral laws govern men & women
• Universal economic laws govern society
• Universal civil laws govern nations
Modernism
The Enlightenment
Newtons Laws
Mechanics
Maxwell’s Laws
Electricity and Magnetism
5 Laws of Nature
• Equality of Man
• Pursuite of Peace
• Pursuit of Liberty
• Contend for Justice
• Good of all men
• Cooperation of all men
Thomas Hobbes (1588 - 1679)
3 Laws of Economics
1. Law of self-interest
2. Law of competition
3. Law of supply & demand
Adam Smith (1723 - 1790)
Galileo (1564-1642)
Historical Forces of Change
Modern Physics
Last 19th Century
World War I
Civilization is not becoming
“Civilized”
World War II
Nuclear age
Holocaust
Depths of Human depravity
Postmodern
• Moral poverty of humanity

• Destruction of the environment

• Degredation of human civilization

• Globalization and diversity of culture

• Disillusionment with technology and science
Contrasting Final Scenes
Modern v. Postmodern
Loftin, Hugh. 1920. “Lunar Moth”. Dr. Doolittle
Charleton Heston, Planet of the Apes 1968
Unanchoring of Truth
Also Sprach Zarathustra (Strauss, 1896)
Friedrich Nietzsche
Humans create truth by writing the
stories. The language, myth, and
narratives create their truth
Also Sprach Zarathustra (1885)
• Friedrich Nietzsche (1885)
• Zarathustra (628 BC)
• “God is Dead!”
• End of Truth
• Nihilism
Friedich Nietzsche (1844-1900)
The Madman (Nietzche, 1895)
Max Webber
Facts are neutral. Humans assign
meaning to facts creating truth.
1864-1920
Michel Foucault
Social Critical Theory:
Facts themselves are created by those
in power to control and exploit people
1926-1984
Hannah Arendt
Death of Truth: “Totalitarianism
[succeeds when] the distinctions
between fact and fiction and between
true and false no longer exist.”
(Arendt, 1976, Origins of Totalitarianism)
1906-1975
Truth Became Unanchored
• Facts alone have no meaning
• People assign meaning
• Truth, therefore is contextual
• Spiritual truth, is contextual or nonexistent
Deconstruction
• Deconstruction of traditional history
• Deconstruction of sacred stories
• Revising History with new meaning
• Revising sacred stories
Jean Leon Ferris (1912)
Post-Truth Era
Pendulum swinging back
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/post-truth
(Oxford English Dictionary, 2016)
Push-Back
• Social media distorts truth
• Politicians distort truth
• Emotional people reject facts
• Media distorting facts to sell news
In Search of Truth
WBUR Boston
(27 Feb 2020)
Some truth is objective
• Facts do have meaning

• Facts not multiple meanings

• Truth is not relative
Denial (2016) Rachel Weisz
Debra Lipstadt, “Truth is Not Relative”
Some facts do have
meaning
“Alternative facts” (22 Jan 2017)
Some truth Compels a
response
Compelling truth Moral Absolutes
Compelling truth Moral Absolutes
The Problem with Evil
Theodore Cabal, Southern Theological Seminary
Craig, William Lane (2007)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vpvwa
God on Trial, 2008, PBS
Text Discussion:
Five Views of Suffering & Evil
How can Christians claim they
have “the Only Way”
What about those who haven’t
heard?
Text Discussion
Why do you “push” your beliefs
on other people?
How can a good God send
people to Hell?
James Short Discussion
Cultural Apologetics
Critical Social Theory
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Another Brick in the Wall (Pink Floyd, 1979)
Give her a Hoover
and you give her
the Best!
Hoover Magazine Ad
1937
Karl Marx
“The history of all
hitherto existing
society is the history of
class struggles”
(Marx, 1848/1913, p. 5)
1818–1883
Frankfurt School
• Hegelian philosophy
• 1920s German Marxism
• German Upheaval
• Frankfurt Ger. (1923-1933)
• Columbian University (1933ff)
(Corradetti, 2016, “Frankfurt School”)
Max Horkheimer
• Brought together: Freud, Marx,
literary theory, and philosophy
of education.
• Traditional & Critical Theory
(Horkheimer,1937)
1895—1973
Max Horkheimer
Traditional Theory & Critical Theory
Traditional theory:
“is content to describe existing
social institutions more or less as
they are”
Critical theory:
understanding of expose the
system’s false claims to
legitimacy, justice, and truth
(Horkheimer, 1937/1972, p. 188)
1895—1973
Critical Theory
Defined
A “critical” theory is a theory of inquiry that seeks to
emancipate from slavery, liberate from oppression, and create
a world which satisfies the needs and self-determination of
human beings. These may be applied to many different
disciplines (ex. Critical literary theory, critical social theory,
critical hermeneutics, critical historical inquiry).
“Critical Theory”. 2005. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/critical-theory/
Critical Theory
Defined
Critical social theory constitutes an effort to rethink and reform
Marxist social criticism; it characteristically rejects mainstream
political and intellectual views, criticizes capitalism, promotes
human liberation, and consequently attempts to expose
domination and oppression in their many forms. The extent to
which science and technology may be associated with
domination and oppression has been a major theme of critical
theory.
"Critical Social Theory ."  Encyclopedia.com. 15 Apr. 2021 <https://www.encyclopedia.com>.
Critical Social Theory
Premises
1. Oppressed v. Oppressor

2. Oppression through hegemonic power

3. Moral duty to liberate

4. Lived experience > Objective evidence

5. Guise of objectivity

6. Priority of intersectionality
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Model of Bible Interpretation
Text Reader
Writer Language Translation
Copyist
Errors
Reader’s
Cultural
Milieu
Audience
Exegete
is
Addressing
Critical Literary Theory: Expose Oppresser
Understand the Oppressed
Meaning
Evil Powers

Seeking to oppress victims
Model of Bible Interpretation
Text Reader
Writer Language Translation
Copyist
Errors
Reader’s
Cultural
Milieu
Audience
Exegete
is
Addressing
Critical Literary Theory: Expose Oppresser
Understand the oppressed
Women, homosexuals, slaves, racial minorities, immigrants
Meaning
Evil Powers

Seeking to oppress victims
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Critical Social Theory
1. Oppressed v. Oppressor
• Old white men

• “Karen” obnoxious white women

• Jews are “white”
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Critical Social Theory
2. Oppression through hegemonic power
• Individuals are associated with their group

• Rules always favor dominate group

• Rules that favor are hegemonic power
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Critical Social Theory
3. Moral duty to liberate
• Liberation prioritized over other moral rules

• Re-prioritization of moral judgement

• Permission to act in ways normally improper
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Critical Social Theory
5. Guise of objectivity
• Objective facts are illusions

• Rational inquiry is illusion
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
Socio-Political Objections
Why did God command genocide
in the Old Testament?
Why did God command Genocide?
When my angel goes before you and brings you to the Amorites and the Hittites and
the Perizzites and the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, and I blot them out,
you shall not bow down to their gods nor serve them, nor do as they do, but you shall
utterly overthrow them and break their pillars in pieces (Exod 23:23–24 ESV)
Behold, I will drive out before you the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the
Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. Take care, lest you make a covenant with the
inhabitants of the land to which you go, lest it become a snare in your midst. (Exod
34:11–12 ESV)
Why did God command Genocide?
You shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you and destroy all their
figured stones and destroy all their metal images and demolish all their high places.
And you shall take possession of the land and settle in it, for I have given the land to
you to possess it. (Num 33:52–53 ESV)
When the LORD your God gives them over to you, and you defeat them, then you
must devote them to complete destruction. You shall make no covenant with them
and show no mercy to them. (Deut 7:2 ESV)
Why did God command Genocide?
In the cities of the peoples that the LORD your God is giving you for an
inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall
devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the
Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the
LORD your God has commanded, that they may not teach you to do
according to all their abominable practices that they have done for their
gods, and so you sin against the LORD your God. (Deut 20:16–18 ESV)
Why did God command genocide
1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram)
Why did God command Genocide?
When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of
peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to
you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor
for you and shall serve you. (Deut 20:10–11 ESV)
Why did God command genocide
1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram)

2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded
Why did God command Genocide?
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all
who draw the sword will die by the sword. (Matt 26:52, NIV)
Why did God command genocide
1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram)

2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded

3. There was a special dispensation about “the Land”
Why did God command Genocide?
Pentateuch includes selected stories:
Story of Sodom & Gemara
Sin of the Ammonites
Story of Lot and his daughters
Why did God command Genocide?
And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the
nations that were before you. (Lev. 18:28, NIV)
I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve, and afterward
they shall come out with great possessions. As for you, you shall
go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried in a good old age.
And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the
iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Gen 15:14–16 ESV)
Why did God command genocide
1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram)

2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded

3. There was a special dispensation about “the Land”

4. We minimize sin in god’s eyes and rightful punishment.

5. We minimize the eternal destiny of all those living in sin.
Why did God command Genocide?
There were some present at that very time who told him about
the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their
sacrifices. And he answered them, “Do you think that these
Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans,
because they suffered in this way? No, I tell you; but unless you
repent, you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom
the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they
were worse offenders than all the others who lived in
Jerusalem? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all
likewise perish.” (Luke 13:1–5 ESV)
Why did God command genocide
1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram)

2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded

3. There was a special dispensation about “the Land”

4. We minimize sin in god’s eyes and rightful punishment.

5. We minimize the eternal destiny of all those living in sin.

6. Even so, there was grace for those who turned to Yahweh.
Why did God command Genocide?
Rahab came up to them on the roof and said to the men, “I know
that the LORD has given you the land, and that the fear of you
has fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land melt
away before you. For we have heard how the LORD dried up the
water of the Red Sea before you when you came out of Egypt,
and what you did to the two kings of the Amorites who were
beyond the Jordan, to Sihon and Og, whom you devoted to
destruction. And as soon as we heard it, our hearts melted, and
there was no spirit left in any man because of you, for the LORD
your God, he is God in the heavens above and on the earth
beneath. (Josh 2:8–11 ESV)
Why did God command Genocide?
So the young men who had been spies went in and brought
out Rahab and her father and mother and brothers and all who
belonged to her. And they brought all her relatives and put them
outside the camp of Israel. But Rahab the prostitute and her
father’s household and all who belonged to her, Joshua saved
alive. And she has lived in Israel to this day, (Josh 6:23, 25
ESV)
Why did God command Genocide?
Rahab, the Jericho ite (Joshua 2)
Ruth, the Midianite (Ruth)
Ornan, the Jebusite (1 Chron 21:28)
Jael, the Kenite (Jud 5:24)
All Gibeonites (2 Sam 21
Christianity oppresses women
Text Discussion
Christianity is anti-gay
and responsible for oppression of LGBTQ
Elizabeth Black from NY
Christianity is a white man’s religion
and responsible for slavery and oppression of minorities
Evangelicals are responsible for
neglect of the planet
Text discussion
Christianity is responsible for
colonization and eradication of
non-western cultures.
Pagan Myths
Jesus went to India
Jesus is the incarnation of Krisna
The Gospel is a recycled pagan
myth
Jewish Objections to Jesus
If I believe in Jesus, I won’t be
Jewish anymore.
Christians believe in 3 gods
God commanded us to only
worship him
When the Messiah comes there
will be peace on earth.
I don’t need someone to pay for
my sins
God never demanded a human
sacrifice
Christians are responsible for
murdering the Jews!
Paul invented Christianity
Christianity teaches Jews to
forsake God’s law
Other Religions
Jesus went to India between 13 -
33 and studied with the yogis
Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses,
and Cults
George: Jehovah’s Witnesses
Simon: Apostolic Reformation
Jewish Objections
1. If I believe in Jesus, I won’t be
Jewish anymore
2. Christians have tried to kill
the Jews for 2,000 years!
3. Jesus did not fulfill the
requirements for the Messiah!
Julius Ciss, Jews for Judiasm, Why Jesus is Not the Messiah
4. Jews don’t need someone to
pay for their sins. We go directly
to God!
Tovia Singer, Were Sacrifices Necessary to Atone for Sin?
5. Praying to Jesus is idolatry
6. Christians believe you just
need to believe in Jesus and then

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I 3300 51 apologetics postmodern worldviews

  • 2. Postmodernism 1. Meaning is determined by the person 2. Human authority originates from society 3. Human and Natural Laws are referential 4. Difference between secular & sacred is referential 5. Reason cannot explain all phenomena 6. Scripture is one of many Sacred Texts, each one may be valid
  • 3. Model of Bible Interpretation Text Reader Translation Writer’s Cultural Milieu Reader’s Cultural Milieu Audience Exegete is Addressing Postmodernism: Reader Gives Meaning Meaning
  • 4. Review: How We Got Here
  • 6. Premodern Period • Knowledge was mediated • Truth was transmitted by chain of tradition • Truth was determined by kings & priests • Truth was accessible to a few
  • 7. • Vulgate the authorized Bible • Vulgate was read in church • Vulgate was interpreted by the church • Vernacular was forbidden Premodern Period
  • 8. • Hebrew Bible was read in synagogue • Sages interpreted Scripture • Re enforced in liturgy & recitation • Vernacular was forbidden Premodern Period
  • 10. Modernism The Enlightenment • Truth became accessible • Truth freed from religion and authority • Truth became objective • Truth became universal (all people, time, contexts)
  • 11. • Universal scientific laws govern universe • Universal moral laws govern men & women • Universal economic laws govern society • Universal civil laws govern nations Modernism The Enlightenment
  • 14. 5 Laws of Nature • Equality of Man • Pursuite of Peace • Pursuit of Liberty • Contend for Justice • Good of all men • Cooperation of all men Thomas Hobbes (1588 - 1679)
  • 15. 3 Laws of Economics 1. Law of self-interest 2. Law of competition 3. Law of supply & demand Adam Smith (1723 - 1790)
  • 19. World War I Civilization is not becoming “Civilized”
  • 22. Postmodern • Moral poverty of humanity • Destruction of the environment • Degredation of human civilization • Globalization and diversity of culture • Disillusionment with technology and science
  • 24. Loftin, Hugh. 1920. “Lunar Moth”. Dr. Doolittle
  • 25. Charleton Heston, Planet of the Apes 1968
  • 27. Also Sprach Zarathustra (Strauss, 1896)
  • 28. Friedrich Nietzsche Humans create truth by writing the stories. The language, myth, and narratives create their truth
  • 29. Also Sprach Zarathustra (1885) • Friedrich Nietzsche (1885) • Zarathustra (628 BC) • “God is Dead!” • End of Truth • Nihilism Friedich Nietzsche (1844-1900)
  • 31. Max Webber Facts are neutral. Humans assign meaning to facts creating truth. 1864-1920
  • 32. Michel Foucault Social Critical Theory: Facts themselves are created by those in power to control and exploit people 1926-1984
  • 33. Hannah Arendt Death of Truth: “Totalitarianism [succeeds when] the distinctions between fact and fiction and between true and false no longer exist.” (Arendt, 1976, Origins of Totalitarianism) 1906-1975
  • 34. Truth Became Unanchored • Facts alone have no meaning • People assign meaning • Truth, therefore is contextual • Spiritual truth, is contextual or nonexistent
  • 35. Deconstruction • Deconstruction of traditional history • Deconstruction of sacred stories • Revising History with new meaning • Revising sacred stories
  • 39. Push-Back • Social media distorts truth • Politicians distort truth • Emotional people reject facts • Media distorting facts to sell news
  • 40. In Search of Truth WBUR Boston (27 Feb 2020)
  • 41. Some truth is objective
  • 42. • Facts do have meaning • Facts not multiple meanings • Truth is not relative
  • 44. Debra Lipstadt, “Truth is Not Relative”
  • 45. Some facts do have meaning
  • 47. Some truth Compels a response
  • 48.
  • 49.
  • 50.
  • 54. Theodore Cabal, Southern Theological Seminary
  • 57. God on Trial, 2008, PBS
  • 58. Text Discussion: Five Views of Suffering & Evil
  • 59. How can Christians claim they have “the Only Way”
  • 60.
  • 61. What about those who haven’t heard? Text Discussion
  • 62. Why do you “push” your beliefs on other people?
  • 63. How can a good God send people to Hell?
  • 66. Critical Social Theory Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 67. Another Brick in the Wall (Pink Floyd, 1979)
  • 68. Give her a Hoover and you give her the Best! Hoover Magazine Ad 1937
  • 69. Karl Marx “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles” (Marx, 1848/1913, p. 5) 1818–1883
  • 70. Frankfurt School • Hegelian philosophy • 1920s German Marxism • German Upheaval • Frankfurt Ger. (1923-1933) • Columbian University (1933ff) (Corradetti, 2016, “Frankfurt School”)
  • 71. Max Horkheimer • Brought together: Freud, Marx, literary theory, and philosophy of education. • Traditional & Critical Theory (Horkheimer,1937) 1895—1973
  • 72. Max Horkheimer Traditional Theory & Critical Theory Traditional theory: “is content to describe existing social institutions more or less as they are” Critical theory: understanding of expose the system’s false claims to legitimacy, justice, and truth (Horkheimer, 1937/1972, p. 188) 1895—1973
  • 73. Critical Theory Defined A “critical” theory is a theory of inquiry that seeks to emancipate from slavery, liberate from oppression, and create a world which satisfies the needs and self-determination of human beings. These may be applied to many different disciplines (ex. Critical literary theory, critical social theory, critical hermeneutics, critical historical inquiry). “Critical Theory”. 2005. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/critical-theory/
  • 74. Critical Theory Defined Critical social theory constitutes an effort to rethink and reform Marxist social criticism; it characteristically rejects mainstream political and intellectual views, criticizes capitalism, promotes human liberation, and consequently attempts to expose domination and oppression in their many forms. The extent to which science and technology may be associated with domination and oppression has been a major theme of critical theory. "Critical Social Theory ."  Encyclopedia.com. 15 Apr. 2021 <https://www.encyclopedia.com>.
  • 75. Critical Social Theory Premises 1. Oppressed v. Oppressor 2. Oppression through hegemonic power 3. Moral duty to liberate 4. Lived experience > Objective evidence 5. Guise of objectivity 6. Priority of intersectionality Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 76. Model of Bible Interpretation Text Reader Writer Language Translation Copyist Errors Reader’s Cultural Milieu Audience Exegete is Addressing Critical Literary Theory: Expose Oppresser Understand the Oppressed Meaning Evil Powers Seeking to oppress victims
  • 77. Model of Bible Interpretation Text Reader Writer Language Translation Copyist Errors Reader’s Cultural Milieu Audience Exegete is Addressing Critical Literary Theory: Expose Oppresser Understand the oppressed Women, homosexuals, slaves, racial minorities, immigrants Meaning Evil Powers Seeking to oppress victims
  • 78. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 79. Critical Social Theory 1. Oppressed v. Oppressor • Old white men • “Karen” obnoxious white women • Jews are “white”
  • 80. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 81. Critical Social Theory 2. Oppression through hegemonic power • Individuals are associated with their group • Rules always favor dominate group • Rules that favor are hegemonic power
  • 82. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 83. Critical Social Theory 3. Moral duty to liberate • Liberation prioritized over other moral rules • Re-prioritization of moral judgement • Permission to act in ways normally improper
  • 84.
  • 85.
  • 86.
  • 87. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 88. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 89. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 90. Critical Social Theory 5. Guise of objectivity • Objective facts are illusions • Rational inquiry is illusion
  • 91. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 92.
  • 93. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 94. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 95. Shenvi, Neil. 2019. “Critical Theory”. New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
  • 97. Why did God command genocide in the Old Testament?
  • 98. Why did God command Genocide? When my angel goes before you and brings you to the Amorites and the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, and I blot them out, you shall not bow down to their gods nor serve them, nor do as they do, but you shall utterly overthrow them and break their pillars in pieces (Exod 23:23–24 ESV) Behold, I will drive out before you the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. Take care, lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land to which you go, lest it become a snare in your midst. (Exod 34:11–12 ESV)
  • 99. Why did God command Genocide? You shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you and destroy all their figured stones and destroy all their metal images and demolish all their high places. And you shall take possession of the land and settle in it, for I have given the land to you to possess it. (Num 33:52–53 ESV) When the LORD your God gives them over to you, and you defeat them, then you must devote them to complete destruction. You shall make no covenant with them and show no mercy to them. (Deut 7:2 ESV)
  • 100. Why did God command Genocide? In the cities of the peoples that the LORD your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall devote them to complete destruction, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the LORD your God has commanded, that they may not teach you to do according to all their abominable practices that they have done for their gods, and so you sin against the LORD your God. (Deut 20:16–18 ESV)
  • 101. Why did God command genocide 1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram)
  • 102. Why did God command Genocide? When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. (Deut 20:10–11 ESV)
  • 103. Why did God command genocide 1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram) 2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded
  • 104. Why did God command Genocide? "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. (Matt 26:52, NIV)
  • 105. Why did God command genocide 1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram) 2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded 3. There was a special dispensation about “the Land”
  • 106. Why did God command Genocide? Pentateuch includes selected stories: Story of Sodom & Gemara Sin of the Ammonites Story of Lot and his daughters
  • 107. Why did God command Genocide? And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you. (Lev. 18:28, NIV) I will bring judgment on the nation that they serve, and afterward they shall come out with great possessions. As for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried in a good old age. And they shall come back here in the fourth generation, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.” (Gen 15:14–16 ESV)
  • 108. Why did God command genocide 1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram) 2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded 3. There was a special dispensation about “the Land” 4. We minimize sin in god’s eyes and rightful punishment. 5. We minimize the eternal destiny of all those living in sin.
  • 109. Why did God command Genocide? There were some present at that very time who told him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And he answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered in this way? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:1–5 ESV)
  • 110. Why did God command genocide 1. Only the Canaanite Cities (ex. Not Ammon, Edom, Midian, Aram) 2. Only time in redemptive history this was commanded 3. There was a special dispensation about “the Land” 4. We minimize sin in god’s eyes and rightful punishment. 5. We minimize the eternal destiny of all those living in sin. 6. Even so, there was grace for those who turned to Yahweh.
  • 111. Why did God command Genocide? Rahab came up to them on the roof and said to the men, “I know that the LORD has given you the land, and that the fear of you has fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land melt away before you. For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red Sea before you when you came out of Egypt, and what you did to the two kings of the Amorites who were beyond the Jordan, to Sihon and Og, whom you devoted to destruction. And as soon as we heard it, our hearts melted, and there was no spirit left in any man because of you, for the LORD your God, he is God in the heavens above and on the earth beneath. (Josh 2:8–11 ESV)
  • 112. Why did God command Genocide? So the young men who had been spies went in and brought out Rahab and her father and mother and brothers and all who belonged to her. And they brought all her relatives and put them outside the camp of Israel. But Rahab the prostitute and her father’s household and all who belonged to her, Joshua saved alive. And she has lived in Israel to this day, (Josh 6:23, 25 ESV)
  • 113. Why did God command Genocide? Rahab, the Jericho ite (Joshua 2) Ruth, the Midianite (Ruth) Ornan, the Jebusite (1 Chron 21:28) Jael, the Kenite (Jud 5:24) All Gibeonites (2 Sam 21
  • 115. Christianity is anti-gay and responsible for oppression of LGBTQ Elizabeth Black from NY
  • 116. Christianity is a white man’s religion and responsible for slavery and oppression of minorities
  • 117. Evangelicals are responsible for neglect of the planet Text discussion
  • 118. Christianity is responsible for colonization and eradication of non-western cultures.
  • 120. Jesus went to India
  • 121. Jesus is the incarnation of Krisna
  • 122. The Gospel is a recycled pagan myth
  • 124. If I believe in Jesus, I won’t be Jewish anymore.
  • 126. God commanded us to only worship him
  • 127. When the Messiah comes there will be peace on earth.
  • 128. I don’t need someone to pay for my sins
  • 129. God never demanded a human sacrifice
  • 130. Christians are responsible for murdering the Jews!
  • 132. Christianity teaches Jews to forsake God’s law
  • 134. Jesus went to India between 13 - 33 and studied with the yogis
  • 139. 1. If I believe in Jesus, I won’t be Jewish anymore
  • 140. 2. Christians have tried to kill the Jews for 2,000 years!
  • 141. 3. Jesus did not fulfill the requirements for the Messiah!
  • 142. Julius Ciss, Jews for Judiasm, Why Jesus is Not the Messiah
  • 143. 4. Jews don’t need someone to pay for their sins. We go directly to God!
  • 144. Tovia Singer, Were Sacrifices Necessary to Atone for Sin?
  • 145. 5. Praying to Jesus is idolatry
  • 146. 6. Christians believe you just need to believe in Jesus and then