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How to provide excellent
   customer service



      Svend Elkjaer
Sports Marketing Network
Svend Elkjaer
Sports Marketing Network
o Dane, handball,
o publishing, events,
o excitement, creative, bad manager,
o even worse politician,
o Bedford, event consultancy
  business...
o now Norseman returned to Yorkshire
o always in the experience business
Today
o Purpose
o Process
o Payoff

  Learn from holiday camps, pubs,
        Disney, Starbucks and
          …Ripon Cathedral!
“Follow the customer, if they
       change... we change”,
Sir Terry Leahy, Chief Executive,
               Tesco
“Unwelcoming clubs”…
a word from the Secretary of State
o “Let’s be honest, a lot of our clubs
  have got a very unwelcoming
  environment. They must develop a
  more supportive environment,
  making people feel more
  comfortable.”
  Andy Burnham, Secretary of State for Culture,
  Media and Sport (England Netball magazine)
Excellent customer service means…
Excellent customer service means…
o doing ordinary things extraordinary well
o going beyond what’s expected
o adding value and integrity to every
  interaction
o being at your best with every customer
o discovering new ways to delight those you
  serve
o surprising yourself with how much you
  can do
o taking care of the customer like you would
  take care of your grandmother
When did you last receive/see/give
  excellent customer service? How did
  it make you feel?
Why is it important?
Who decides what is excellent customer
  service?
How long could I be standing at your
  centre before somebody says ‘hello’
  or ‘welcome’?
Excellent customer service…

      Culture/attitude
             or
            skill
             or
           both?
Excellent customer service…

           passion
              or
           process
              or
            both?
“Unless you have 100% customer
       satisfaction...you must
              improve”
 Horst Schulz, Ritz Carlton Hotels
       chief executive officer
Welcoming centres…more
customers and more money
o Focus on your customers their needs
  and then work to attract and retain
  them to support your centre
o Your membership and revenue will
  then grow and long-term you will
  have a winning centre
Why customer service matters…
o If you retain 90% of your
  members/customers every year,
  you’ll have lost more than one third in
  year 4. You will have lost almost
  60% if you retain 80% every year
o David Lloyd retains 72% per year
Retention…the £ implications
o 100 customers   @ £100
Retention
Rate Year 1 2     3   4    5   Total
90% 10      9     8   7    6   40
80% 10      8     6   5    4   33
70% 10      7     5   3    2   27
Where’s your customer focus?
1. We are completely focused on our customers, and we
   are aware of their different needs and we work hard
   to satisfy those needs. We constantly listen to our
   customers and make improvements whenever we can
   and when we can't we explain why.
2. We are getting increasingly customer focused
   although the whole organisation may not be as
   customer-focused as we would like. We know how we
   want to improve and we are working hard to get there
3. We need to focus less on internal and political issues
   and more on the customer
4. We rarely talk about customers - do we really know
   who they are?
5. We are a leisure centre - why are we talking about
   customers?
Your mission
o Why do customers remember us?
o How do customers feel about us?
o What do customers tell their friends
  about us?
o In what ways do we help one
  another?
The customer profit

     customer experience
           minus
      customer sacrifice
              =
       customer profit
The WHOLE experience
o Think of the whole experience of
  joining your centre: (Moment
  Mapping)
      n   Decision to attend
      n   Seek information
      n   Booking
      n   Transport
      n   Experience at your club
      n   Do you make them love you
      n   Follow up
      n   Ask/listen
Dirty / Clean? –
Cheap / Quality?
All the world’s a stage
o What is smart to you?
o How do you feel when you’re looking
  good at and you know it?
o What impression does that make to
  our guests?
The three 2s


         2 seconds
         2 minutes
          2 hours
5 words you rarely see
in sports plans

            Fun
          Passion
         Customer
        Technology
        Innovation
o If you invited me to your house you
  would treat me a guest…
o If I came to your centre you would
  treat me as a ………?
You have an Goodwill Bank account
with all your customers
o Make you sure make regular deposits
  and that you are NEVER overdrawn
Close the loop
o There’s no point getting people
  through the front door if the back
  door is wide open:
  n Lack of follow up
  n No place for feedback
  n No evaluation
  From out-reach to in-reach
Getting to know you…
 First visit     Second visit    First week

 Prospect        Put info in    Phone call
 gives           database
 contact info
                 Send
                 email/text


  Ongoing       Every 6 weeks   First month

Newsletter      Newcomer        Follow up
Birthday card   support
                                Prior/post
Christmas
                                call
card
What do people think?
o How big a percentage of your local
  community know your club exists?
o How many know where you are?
o How many have been?
o What reception would they get and
  would they want to come back if they
  came to a game, class, function or
  just to have a look?
“You cannot improve one thing by
  1000% but you can improve 1000
         little things by 1%”
 "Coffee stains on the flip trays tell
     the customer that we don't
    service our engines properly"
Jan Carlzon, former Chief Executive,
Scandinavian Airlines
One-to-one marketing
Treat ALL customers as
       individuals
Customer service for all…everyone
wants to be treated as an individual
Customer service for all…everyone
wants to be treated as an individual
Customer service for all…everyone
wants to be treated as an individual
Customer service for all…everyone
wants to be treated as an individual
Customer service for all…everyone
wants to be treated as an individual
Say what and how?
o Face-to-face Communication
      n 55% body language
      n 38% tone of voice
      n 7% words used
o Telephone communication
      n 82% tone of voice
      n 18% words used
Remember him…




"I only ever had a few seconds to resolve a situation and
    therefore using the right body language was essential. You
    just have to use the appropriate behaviour for the
    moment – it could be a smile, or I could be much firmer,
    depending on the situation.“
Pierluigi Collina
Try and convince these two!
The customer’s view…not yours
o Passionate vs. aggressive
o Relaxed vs. indifferent/apathetic
o Smiling vs. condescending
Putting yourself in someone else’s
shoes…
Guest: “Can you see things from my
  point view?”
“Well, if I was in your situation…”
NO, take your shoes of first!
How to find out what your
customers think
o Ask them and listen
  n How many customers do you ask every
    day?
o Create an environment where people
  feel comfortable giving you feedback
  – good or bad
o Thank customers who complain (at
  least they bother!)
Imagine if…
o 3 things you would need from
  experiencing a great Three 2s?

o How would that make you feel?
Knowing me knowing you
o Why is building rapport useful?

o How long does is take to build?

o How long does it take to lose?
Active listening (how do you feel
when no one listens to you?)
o On my way to Loughborough I…



o Barriers to active listening?
Open questions
o Solicit more than a “yes” or “no” pr
  other one-word response
o Aim to get someone talking
o Are useful when you want general
  questions
o Common lead-ins are what, how and
  why
Closed questions
o Solicit a “yes” or “no” or other one-
  word response
o Aim to limit talking or to control
  direction of conversation
o Are useful when you want specific
  information
o Common lead-ins are who, when, did,
  which, would, are, can, have, do is,
  will and may
Welcome to my centre…
It’s great here because…tell

    twelve year old teenager
    five-a-side football team
    two unfit women in their forties
“If you are not here to serve the
  customer, or support the folks
    that do, what are you doing
              here?”
 Sam Walton, Founder, Wal-Mart
   (the world’s biggest retailer)
What you can do without asking
the boss…
o Smile
o Be polite
o Follow up
  What else….
Your best friend – the awkward
customer
o Can be a big drain on staff
So what can you do:
o Let the customer vent (don’t take it personally)
o Listen (actively) – repeat key points, take
   notes – make customer believe you are taking
   notice
o Empathise – ‘that’s awful’, stay calm, relaxed
   and in control, offer two solutions and let them
   choose, what can you do
o Avoid getting trapped in negativity
o Follow up
Empower people to give excellent
service
o Set a budget – both in cash and time terms
o Share best practice
o Look back at some ‘live’ examples where
  people felt there not empowered
o Create a ‘no fail’ environment where people
  are prepared to make mistakes and learn
  from them
o Do it. The secret is in the doing
What not to say and do
o   Our system is down
o   I don’t know
o   I tried but…
o   That’s not my job
o   Calm down
o   No
o   We’re having a staffing problem…
o   We’ve been very busy…
o   We can’t do that because…
o   Our policy is…
o   Our rules are..
What to say and do
o Thank you for your feedback
o I’ll find out
o What I can do is
o I’m sorry
o We learn from what our customers tell
  us…(make sure you do)
o From what you have said we could be a lot
  better
o Is there anything I can do for you right now
  to win back some of your trust?
Bounce back
Two types of problems:
  Predictable
    get them sorted!
  Surprising
    empower people to show initiative
    and creativity
Turn the pyramid upside down

   Receptionists, instructors, life-guards etc.




              Senior management
Reliable, honest promise
o Rules create robots
o Systems create consistency
o Values not procedures
“No one ever tells me anything”

 “A person without information
    can’t take responsibility. A
  person with information can’t
   help but take responsibility”
   Jan Carlzon, former Chief
     Executive, Scandinavian
              Airlines
It would never work here…
(selling excellent customer service
internally)

o “I am an electrician, so I don’t deal
  with customers”
o “I am a manager, so I don’t deal with
  customers”
o “I work in sports development, so I
  don’t deal with customers”
You try and run your leisure centre
           without customers
o Deep down, we believe that the
  problem put simply, is THEM.
  They, of course, believe WE are
  the problem
Where’s your customer focus?
1. We are completely focused on our customers, and we
   are aware of their different needs and we work hard
   to satisfy those needs. We constantly listen to our
   customers and make improvements whenever we can
   and when we can't we explain why.
2. We are getting increasingly customer focused
   although the whole organisation may not be as
   customer-focused as we would like. We know how we
   want to improve and we are working hard to get there
3. We need to focus less on internal and political issues
   and more on the customer
4. We rarely talk about customers - do we really know
   who they are?
5. We are a leisure centre - why are we talking about
   customers?
Is there anything else
o What else can I do for you today?
o How else can I be of use?
o What else might you be looking for?
o Do you have any other questions I
  can answer for you?
o What else can I help you with today?
What have you done for me lately?
o Send thank you/birthday/Christmas
  cards
o The ‘Passion Bell’
o More than just a leisure centre
o “We haven’t seen you for a while, are
  you OK?”
o “Have you lost weight?”
o Who have received the most ‘smile-
  backs’ today?
So what you are going to change?


           Tomorrow
           Fortnight
           3 months

    Now you know what’s
   stopping you from doing it
“Man who doesn’t smile, should
    not work in leisure centre”
Chinese proverb (from Yorkshire)
Let’s stay in touch…
 Svend Elkjaer
 Sports Marketing Network
 5 Station Terrace
 Boroughbridge, York
 YO51 9BU
 01423 326 660
 svend@smnuk.com

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How to provide excellent customer service in your leisure centre

  • 1. How to provide excellent customer service Svend Elkjaer Sports Marketing Network
  • 2. Svend Elkjaer Sports Marketing Network o Dane, handball, o publishing, events, o excitement, creative, bad manager, o even worse politician, o Bedford, event consultancy business... o now Norseman returned to Yorkshire o always in the experience business
  • 3. Today o Purpose o Process o Payoff Learn from holiday camps, pubs, Disney, Starbucks and …Ripon Cathedral!
  • 4. “Follow the customer, if they change... we change”, Sir Terry Leahy, Chief Executive, Tesco
  • 5. “Unwelcoming clubs”… a word from the Secretary of State o “Let’s be honest, a lot of our clubs have got a very unwelcoming environment. They must develop a more supportive environment, making people feel more comfortable.” Andy Burnham, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport (England Netball magazine)
  • 7. Excellent customer service means… o doing ordinary things extraordinary well o going beyond what’s expected o adding value and integrity to every interaction o being at your best with every customer o discovering new ways to delight those you serve o surprising yourself with how much you can do o taking care of the customer like you would take care of your grandmother
  • 8. When did you last receive/see/give excellent customer service? How did it make you feel? Why is it important? Who decides what is excellent customer service? How long could I be standing at your centre before somebody says ‘hello’ or ‘welcome’?
  • 9. Excellent customer service… Culture/attitude or skill or both?
  • 10. Excellent customer service… passion or process or both?
  • 11. “Unless you have 100% customer satisfaction...you must improve” Horst Schulz, Ritz Carlton Hotels chief executive officer
  • 12. Welcoming centres…more customers and more money o Focus on your customers their needs and then work to attract and retain them to support your centre o Your membership and revenue will then grow and long-term you will have a winning centre
  • 13. Why customer service matters… o If you retain 90% of your members/customers every year, you’ll have lost more than one third in year 4. You will have lost almost 60% if you retain 80% every year o David Lloyd retains 72% per year
  • 14. Retention…the £ implications o 100 customers @ £100 Retention Rate Year 1 2 3 4 5 Total 90% 10 9 8 7 6 40 80% 10 8 6 5 4 33 70% 10 7 5 3 2 27
  • 15. Where’s your customer focus? 1. We are completely focused on our customers, and we are aware of their different needs and we work hard to satisfy those needs. We constantly listen to our customers and make improvements whenever we can and when we can't we explain why. 2. We are getting increasingly customer focused although the whole organisation may not be as customer-focused as we would like. We know how we want to improve and we are working hard to get there 3. We need to focus less on internal and political issues and more on the customer 4. We rarely talk about customers - do we really know who they are? 5. We are a leisure centre - why are we talking about customers?
  • 16. Your mission o Why do customers remember us? o How do customers feel about us? o What do customers tell their friends about us? o In what ways do we help one another?
  • 17. The customer profit customer experience minus customer sacrifice = customer profit
  • 18. The WHOLE experience o Think of the whole experience of joining your centre: (Moment Mapping) n Decision to attend n Seek information n Booking n Transport n Experience at your club n Do you make them love you n Follow up n Ask/listen
  • 19. Dirty / Clean? – Cheap / Quality?
  • 20. All the world’s a stage o What is smart to you? o How do you feel when you’re looking good at and you know it? o What impression does that make to our guests?
  • 21. The three 2s 2 seconds 2 minutes 2 hours
  • 22. 5 words you rarely see in sports plans Fun Passion Customer Technology Innovation
  • 23. o If you invited me to your house you would treat me a guest… o If I came to your centre you would treat me as a ………?
  • 24. You have an Goodwill Bank account with all your customers o Make you sure make regular deposits and that you are NEVER overdrawn
  • 25. Close the loop o There’s no point getting people through the front door if the back door is wide open: n Lack of follow up n No place for feedback n No evaluation From out-reach to in-reach
  • 26. Getting to know you… First visit Second visit First week Prospect Put info in Phone call gives database contact info Send email/text Ongoing Every 6 weeks First month Newsletter Newcomer Follow up Birthday card support Prior/post Christmas call card
  • 27. What do people think? o How big a percentage of your local community know your club exists? o How many know where you are? o How many have been? o What reception would they get and would they want to come back if they came to a game, class, function or just to have a look?
  • 28. “You cannot improve one thing by 1000% but you can improve 1000 little things by 1%” "Coffee stains on the flip trays tell the customer that we don't service our engines properly" Jan Carlzon, former Chief Executive, Scandinavian Airlines
  • 29. One-to-one marketing Treat ALL customers as individuals
  • 30. Customer service for all…everyone wants to be treated as an individual
  • 31. Customer service for all…everyone wants to be treated as an individual
  • 32. Customer service for all…everyone wants to be treated as an individual
  • 33. Customer service for all…everyone wants to be treated as an individual
  • 34. Customer service for all…everyone wants to be treated as an individual
  • 35. Say what and how? o Face-to-face Communication n 55% body language n 38% tone of voice n 7% words used o Telephone communication n 82% tone of voice n 18% words used
  • 36. Remember him… "I only ever had a few seconds to resolve a situation and therefore using the right body language was essential. You just have to use the appropriate behaviour for the moment – it could be a smile, or I could be much firmer, depending on the situation.“ Pierluigi Collina
  • 37. Try and convince these two!
  • 38. The customer’s view…not yours o Passionate vs. aggressive o Relaxed vs. indifferent/apathetic o Smiling vs. condescending
  • 39. Putting yourself in someone else’s shoes… Guest: “Can you see things from my point view?” “Well, if I was in your situation…” NO, take your shoes of first!
  • 40. How to find out what your customers think o Ask them and listen n How many customers do you ask every day? o Create an environment where people feel comfortable giving you feedback – good or bad o Thank customers who complain (at least they bother!)
  • 41. Imagine if… o 3 things you would need from experiencing a great Three 2s? o How would that make you feel?
  • 42. Knowing me knowing you o Why is building rapport useful? o How long does is take to build? o How long does it take to lose?
  • 43. Active listening (how do you feel when no one listens to you?) o On my way to Loughborough I… o Barriers to active listening?
  • 44. Open questions o Solicit more than a “yes” or “no” pr other one-word response o Aim to get someone talking o Are useful when you want general questions o Common lead-ins are what, how and why
  • 45. Closed questions o Solicit a “yes” or “no” or other one- word response o Aim to limit talking or to control direction of conversation o Are useful when you want specific information o Common lead-ins are who, when, did, which, would, are, can, have, do is, will and may
  • 46. Welcome to my centre… It’s great here because…tell twelve year old teenager five-a-side football team two unfit women in their forties
  • 47. “If you are not here to serve the customer, or support the folks that do, what are you doing here?” Sam Walton, Founder, Wal-Mart (the world’s biggest retailer)
  • 48. What you can do without asking the boss… o Smile o Be polite o Follow up What else….
  • 49. Your best friend – the awkward customer o Can be a big drain on staff So what can you do: o Let the customer vent (don’t take it personally) o Listen (actively) – repeat key points, take notes – make customer believe you are taking notice o Empathise – ‘that’s awful’, stay calm, relaxed and in control, offer two solutions and let them choose, what can you do o Avoid getting trapped in negativity o Follow up
  • 50. Empower people to give excellent service o Set a budget – both in cash and time terms o Share best practice o Look back at some ‘live’ examples where people felt there not empowered o Create a ‘no fail’ environment where people are prepared to make mistakes and learn from them o Do it. The secret is in the doing
  • 51. What not to say and do o Our system is down o I don’t know o I tried but… o That’s not my job o Calm down o No o We’re having a staffing problem… o We’ve been very busy… o We can’t do that because… o Our policy is… o Our rules are..
  • 52. What to say and do o Thank you for your feedback o I’ll find out o What I can do is o I’m sorry o We learn from what our customers tell us…(make sure you do) o From what you have said we could be a lot better o Is there anything I can do for you right now to win back some of your trust?
  • 53. Bounce back Two types of problems: Predictable get them sorted! Surprising empower people to show initiative and creativity
  • 54. Turn the pyramid upside down Receptionists, instructors, life-guards etc. Senior management
  • 55. Reliable, honest promise o Rules create robots o Systems create consistency o Values not procedures
  • 56. “No one ever tells me anything” “A person without information can’t take responsibility. A person with information can’t help but take responsibility” Jan Carlzon, former Chief Executive, Scandinavian Airlines
  • 57. It would never work here… (selling excellent customer service internally) o “I am an electrician, so I don’t deal with customers” o “I am a manager, so I don’t deal with customers” o “I work in sports development, so I don’t deal with customers” You try and run your leisure centre without customers
  • 58. o Deep down, we believe that the problem put simply, is THEM. They, of course, believe WE are the problem
  • 59. Where’s your customer focus? 1. We are completely focused on our customers, and we are aware of their different needs and we work hard to satisfy those needs. We constantly listen to our customers and make improvements whenever we can and when we can't we explain why. 2. We are getting increasingly customer focused although the whole organisation may not be as customer-focused as we would like. We know how we want to improve and we are working hard to get there 3. We need to focus less on internal and political issues and more on the customer 4. We rarely talk about customers - do we really know who they are? 5. We are a leisure centre - why are we talking about customers?
  • 60. Is there anything else o What else can I do for you today? o How else can I be of use? o What else might you be looking for? o Do you have any other questions I can answer for you? o What else can I help you with today?
  • 61. What have you done for me lately? o Send thank you/birthday/Christmas cards o The ‘Passion Bell’ o More than just a leisure centre o “We haven’t seen you for a while, are you OK?” o “Have you lost weight?” o Who have received the most ‘smile- backs’ today?
  • 62. So what you are going to change? Tomorrow Fortnight 3 months Now you know what’s stopping you from doing it
  • 63. “Man who doesn’t smile, should not work in leisure centre” Chinese proverb (from Yorkshire)
  • 64. Let’s stay in touch… Svend Elkjaer Sports Marketing Network 5 Station Terrace Boroughbridge, York YO51 9BU 01423 326 660 svend@smnuk.com