5. What was happening in China
2008, August 8, Beijing Olympics
2008, May 12, Sichuan Earthquake
2010, May 1, Shanghai Expo 2009, China High speed train
Steel, Infrastructure, cement
6. Where did the credit go?
Real Estate,
18%
"Overcapacity
" sectors,
28%
Other
Corporates,
6%
Consumer,
8%
Government,
40%
Other, 48%
2008 Chinese System Credit
(bn$)
Total= $7,293
Real Estate,
24%
"Overcapacity"
sectors, 34%
Other
Corporates,
10%
Consumer, 9%
Government,
23%
Other, 32%
2013 Chinese system Credit
(bn$)
Source: CICC, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Barclays, Credit Suisse, HSBC, MCM Analysis
Total= $23,034
11. “ Debt and overcapacity form a vicious spiral….As local governments and businesses
borrow more in the name of new projects to pay interest on existing debt, they
exacerbate the overcapacity situation. China must stop the debt-capacity spiral.
Continuing it provides no way out.”
—Andy Xie (Former Morgan Stanley Chief Asia Pacific Economist)
“ Very rapid growth is often driven by the worsening imbalances, a rebalancing of
China is necessarily going to experience much lower growth for many years.”
—Michael Pettis (Peking University)
Does the rapid growth in credit make China unstable?
12. This is Not News!
• China has a credit problem
• What have I been doing all summer?
• Creating detailed map of the credit
system by vintage!
• Using the data to create a banking
system stress test
13. Data Resources
Primary
• PBOC—Bank Loans
• CBRC—NPL, RE, LGFV, Overcapacity
• China Trust Association— Trust sector
• China Bonds Association—Bonds
Secondary
• Barclays (May Yan)—China Shadow Banking System, Property
• CICC—LGFV Loans
• Goldman Sachs (Roy Ramos, Ning Ma)
• Merrill Lynch (Michael Li)—Bank Loans
• Deutsch (Michael Zhang)—Banking system PnL
• HSBC (Todd Dunivant)—Bonds and economic outlook
• Credit Suisse (Steven Zhu)—Trust breakdown
• JP Morgan—property, NPL
• Bloomberg—NPL, Currency
15. Total Credit to GDP ahead of Banking Crises
66%
147% 151%
160% 160%
230%
241%
287%
355%
370%
Indonesia 1998 Thailand 1997 Malaysia 1998 Korea 1998 China 2008 Japan 1990 China 2013 Hong Kong
1998
United States
2008
UK 2008
Source: Goldman Sachs Equity Research, MCM Analysis
16. Roy Ramos, from “Parting Thoughts”, after 17 years
covering Asian Banks at Goldman:
“…we have observed empirically…that every time interest expense for
the aggregate private sector goes beyond 15% of GDP, a banking crisis
has ensued for that particular sector/country…We point to several
instances of banking crises ensuing at an even lower(10% to 11%)
interest expense to GDP ratio—Indonesia. Japan, Korea.”
Interest expense as % of GDP
=
(Total Banking loans/GDP) Ratio
x
Average borrowing cost
17. Roy Ramos—“Rule of 15%”
Interest expense as % of GDP
6.1%
10.1%
12.2%
13.1%
14.1% 14.3%
15.0%
16.4% 16.7%
18.5%
21.3%
22.1%
China, with
Shadow, 2008
Japan 1990 China, with
Shadow, 2013
Indonesia
1998
Korea 1998 China, with
Shadow, 2014
Malaysia 1998 China, with
Shadow, 2014
Hong Kong
1998
UK 2008 United States
2008
Thailand 1997
Assumes +100bps impact from interest
rate liberalization
20. Total Credit to GDP ahead of Banking Crises
66%
147% 151%
160% 160%
230%
241%
287%
355%
370%
Indonesia 1998 Thailand 1997 Malaysia 1998 Korea 1998 China 2008 Japan 1990 China 2013 Hong Kong
1998
United States
2008
UK 2008
Source: Goldman Sachs Equity Research, MCM Analysis
21. Japan Australia Hong Kong Singapore Korea Phillipines Malaysia China Thailand Indonesia
1990's NPL 6% 7% 10% 13% 14% 18% 18% 40% 48% 59%
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
60%
1990's Global Peak NPL Ratios
Australia
Hong
Kong
Indonesia Singapore Japan USA Spain Korea Phillipines Malaysia Ireland China Thailand
2000's NPL 2% 7% 8% 8% 9% 10% 11% 12% 17% 18% 19% 20% 31%
0%
5%
10%
15%
20%
25%
30%
35%
2000's Global Peak NPL Ratios
22. Scenario 1: Doomsday
Scenario 1
Loss Assumptions
2008
Vintage
2009
Vintage
2010
Vintage
2011
Vintage
2012
Vintage
2013
Vintage
Frequency
RE 40% 50% 50% 50% 40% 40%
Overcapacity 40% 50% 50% 50% 40% 40%
Consumer 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10%
Other Corporate 5% 5% 5% 5% 5% 5%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Severity
RE 60% 70% 70% 70% 60% 60%
Overcapacity 60% 70% 70% 70% 60% 60%
Consumer 60% 70% 70% 70% 60% 60%
Other Corporate 60% 70% 70% 70% 60% 60%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Loss rate
Total 11% 22% 24% 25% 16% 18%
Other Assumptions
Duration of loss recognition: 2
Loss on pre-2008 vintage 7%
Dividends cut? Y
Draw existing reserves? N
Bank Loss Model 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
System NIM 2.6% 2.6% NA NA NA NA NA
System PPP 2,884 2,929 NA NA NA NA NA
Losses on '08-'13 vintage 8,521 8,521 NA NA NA NA NA
Losses on pre-'08 vintage 1,166 1,166 NA NA NA NA NA
Net income -5,238 -5,203 NA NA NA NA NA
System tangible common equity 4,369 -834 NA NA NA NA NA
TCER 3.1% -0.6% NA NA NA NA NA
ROTCE -75.0% -294.4% NA NA NA NA NA
Cumulative loss 25%
Current P / Burndown -12.8x
Capital hole $bn -1,576
Dilution to recap to 6.3% TCER -91%
• 25% cum. Loss
• 2 years of loss
recognition and PPP
• Dividends cut
• No draw on existing
reserves
• 0% avg asset growth
• No NIM declines, no
interest rate
liberalization
• Equity wiped out
23. Scenario 2: Doomsday lite
• 20% cum. Loss
• 3 years of loss
recognition and PPP
• Dividends cut
• No draw on existing
reserves
• 0% avg asset growth
• No NIM declines, no
interest rate
liberalization
• Low single digit
ROTCE’s
• 2.2x 2016 burndown
TBV
Scenario 2
Loss Assumptions
2008
Vintage
2009
Vintage
2010
Vintage
2011
Vintage
2012
Vintage
2013
Vintage
Frequency
RE 30% 50% 50% 30% 30% 30%
Overcapacity 30% 50% 50% 30% 30% 30%
Consumer 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10%
Other Corporate 5% 5% 5% 5% 5% 5%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Severity
RE 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65%
Overcapacity 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65%
Consumer 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65%
Other Corporate 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Loss rate
Total 9% 20% 22% 14% 13% 15%
Other Assumptions
Duration of loss recognition: 3
Loss on pre-2008 vintage 6%
Dividends cut? Y
Draw existing reserves? N
Bank Loss Model 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
System NIM 2.4% 2.3% 2.1% NA NA NA NA
System PPP 3,032 3,236 3,450 NA NA NA NA
Losses on '08-'13 vintage 4,665 4,665 4,665 NA NA NA NA
Losses on pre-'08 vintage 666 666 666 NA NA NA NA
Net income -1,771 -1,614 -1,449 NA NA NA NA
System tangible common equity 7,836 6,222 4,774 NA NA NA NA
TCER 4.9% 3.5% 2.4% NA NA NA NA
ROTCE -20.3% -23.0% -26.3% NA NA NA NA
Cumulative loss 20%
Current P / Burndown 2.2x
Capital hole $bn -1,226
Dilution to recap to 6.3% TCER -71%
24. Scenario 3: More realistic
Scenario 3
Loss Assumptions
2008
Vintage
2009
Vintage
2010
Vintage
2011
Vintage
2012
Vintage
2013
Vintage
Frequency
RE 20% 25% 25% 25% 25% 20%
Overcapacity 20% 25% 25% 25% 25% 20%
Consumer 8% 10% 10% 10% 10% 8%
Other Corporate 5% 5% 5% 5% 5% 5%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Severity
RE 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Overcapacity 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Consumer 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Other Corporate 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Loss rate
Total 6% 10% 11% 11% 10% 9%
Other Assumptions
Duration of loss recognition: 4
Loss on pre-2008 vintage 6%
Dividends cut? N
Draw existing reserves? N
Bank Loss Model 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
System NIM 2.6% 2.6% 2.6% 2.6% NA NA NA
System PPP 3,086 3,354 3,644 3,959 NA NA NA
Losses on '08-'13 vintage 2,133 2,133 2,133 2,133 NA NA NA
Losses on pre-'08 vintage 500 500 500 500 NA NA NA
Net income 349 555 779 1,021 NA NA NA
System tangible common equity 9,358 9,316 9,497 9,920 NA NA NA
TCER 5.9% 5.5% 5.2% 5.1% NA NA NA
ROTCE 3.7% 5.9% 8.3% 10.5% NA NA NA
Cumulative loss 13%
Current P / Burndown 1.1x
Capital hole $bn -392
Dilution to recap to 6.3% TCER -23%
• 13% cum. Loss
• 4 years of loss
recognition and PPP
• Dividends not cut
• No draw on existing
reserves
• 7% avg asset growth
to support economy
• No NIM declines, no
interest rate
liberalization
• Mid single digit
ROTCE’s
• 1.1x 2017 burndown
TBV
25. Scenario 4: Base case
Scenario 4
Loss Assumptions
2008
Vintage
2009
Vintage
2010
Vintage
2011
Vintage
2012
Vintage
2013
Vintage
Frequency
RE 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15%
Overcapacity 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15%
Consumer 8% 10% 10% 10% 10% 8%
Other Corporate 5% 5% 5% 5% 5% 5%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Severity
RE 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Overcapacity 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Consumer 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Other Corporate 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60%
Government 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0%
Loss rate
Total 5% 6% 7% 7% 6% 7%
Other Assumptions
Duration of loss recognition: 5
Loss on pre-2008 vintage 5%
Dividends cut? N
Draw existing reserves? N
Bank Loss Model 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
System NIM 2.4% 2.3% 2.2% 2.1% 2.0% NA NA
System PPP 3,032 3,236 3,507 3,800 4,117 NA NA
Losses on '08-'13 vintage 1,146 1,146 1,146 1,146 1,146 NA NA
Losses on pre-'08 vintage 333 333 333 333 333 NA NA
Net income 1,196 1,353 1,562 1,787 2,031 NA NA
System tangible common equity 10,205 10,960 11,924 13,114 14,548 NA NA
TCER 6.2% 6.0% 6.0% 5.9% 6.0% NA NA
ROTCE 12.1% 12.8% 13.6% 14.3% 14.7% NA NA
Cumulative loss 9%
Current P / Burndown 0.7x
Capital hole $bn -119
Dilution to recap to 6.3% TCER -7%
• 9% cum. Loss
• 5 years of loss
recognition and PPP
• Dividends not cut
• No draw on existing
reserves
• 10% avg asset
growth
• 80bps gradual NIM
decline on interest
rate liberalization
• Low to mid teens
ROTCE’s
• 0.7x 2018 burndown
TBV
26. Takeaways
• In our base case China takes 5 years to clean
up the NPL’s – we think the gov’t can manage
this with their liquidity resources
• ROTCE’s sustain in 14-15% range
• If COE = ~12% in this setup, stocks would be
fairly valued at ~1.3x TBV
27. Takeaways cont’d
• In the absence of more clarity on
– Real estate prices
– The impact of fiscal, monetary, SOE reforms
– Corruption crack down
– FAI decrease
– LOSS RECOGNITION AND NPL FORMATION
• …we think trading the banks in a range of
0.85x – 1.3x TBV makes sense
29. “ China’s future problem is not about questioning its growth
potential. It is how to reform its social and economic
structure. “
— Andy Xie
Notes de l'éditeur
If you look at what happened in 2012, in the first half, GDP growth rate slowed significantly, in the second half of the year, Beijing got a little nervous and they stepped on the credit accelerator, and the growth rate took off.