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Zen and the Art of Course
        Selection
College Rules! Chapter 4
Balance
—  Balancing Tasks
  —  Balance between heavy and light courses

—  Balancing Time
  —  Morning classes vs. afternoon classes
  —  Resist overloading!

—  Balancing Interests
  —  Spread out your courses throughout the semester.
  —  Do not wait to take your least favorite “required”
      course
College Advisors
—  Always, always, always, ask questions!




—  What type of things to ask your advisor:
  —    Course and degree requirements…
  —    Which professors to take…
  —    Internships…
  —    Summer jobs…
  —    Studying abroad opportunities…
Picking Professors
—  Professors > Courses on level of importance

—  Find out from other students from their experiences
  —    Style of teaching
  —    Size of classes
  —    Grading procedures
  —    Overall level of difficulty

—  www.ratemyprofessors.com
  —  Rates professors from different universities on quality,
      helpfulness, clarity, and easiness.
Planning it out
—  Make a timeline of what you plan to take

—  Figure out how long it will take for you to get your
    degree
Withdrawal
•  You can drop a class if
   it’s in your best interest
    •  Too overwhelming
    •  Failing the course
       and can’t pull up
       the grade
Interview Questions
1.  How do you balance your courses? (for example, when choosing
    courses, do you balance between heavy reading courses and those
    that require less reading, do you take all math courses, etc.)
2.  What time are all your classes? Do you take morning classes or do
    you prefer to sleep in and take classes later in the day?

3.  Do you have any "core" courses that you are required to take but
    you don't like? Have you already taken them or are you pushing to
    take those less interesting classes to the last possible semester.
4.  Are college advisors helpful?
5.  Do you like all your professors? Why or why not?

6.  Do you have a plan of all the courses you will take for the next four
    years (like a timeline)?
7.  Have you dropped any classes?
Interviewee 1: Gina Lu
1.    The best way to balance the courses is to take two core/hard courses (usually 10
      credits) and balance them with one or two easy courses (5-8 credits). I found this
      out the hard way since I kept taking 3 core classes…

2.    This quarter my classes begin at 10.30am and 8.30am and usually end before 2pm.
      I prefer afternoon classes but its quite impossible as most core classes are in the
      morning.

3.    I liked all of my core courses. 

4.    College advisors are not exactly always helpful.

5.    Some professors are really good, but others are useless, I don’t learn
      anything.

6.    Yes, I have a plan of all the courses I will take before I graduate.

7.    Yes, I have dropped classes.
Interviewee 2: Shaun chen
1.    Since the UC schools require students to take general education classes (classes that have nothing to do with
      your major), we use these classes to balance out with our main classes.

2.    I learned my lesson about 8 am classes, so i moved my earliest classes till 9 am. It is better to take some
      morning classes, since it gives you more time in the afternoon to do other work.

3.    None of my core courses are classes that I don't like. I am trying to double major, so I would need to take
      more courses each quarter.

4.    College advisors can only help you to a certain extent. The rest is on your own.

5.    Most of my professors are ok. Beware of professors with strong accents or harsh grading curves. Each college
      usually have a website with student evaluations of each professor. Checking that out would help you
      choose between lectures.

6.    Planning out is definitely helpful. It really makes you think about how many classes do you need to take to
      complete your major.

7.    I haven't dropped any classes. But some schools have a pass or no pass policy, which means that the grade
      for that class cannot be counted in your GPA, while still giving you the credit.
Interviewee 3: michelle hao
1.    It's best to have a four-year plan going into college. Every major has its required courses...if you can
      choose what order to take them in, try to pair up a hard class with an easy class. 

2.    Everyone's college schedule here changes a ton depending on the semester. Sometimes the class you
      need is only offered at 8am and maybe 6 pm. Also, we don't have a personal college advisor until we
      declare our major. And most people in Berkeley declare their major in the sophomore year.

3.    Berkeley has an "American Cultures" requirement and several others depending on your high school
      coursework. I think, at a big school, there are always enough options to find a great class. 

4.    The reliability and helpfulness of college advisors depend on how many students they are responsible
      for. Your peers are another really good resource.

5.    None of my professors are mean, but some are better lecturers than others. Online course ratings give
      you a good idea of a professor's personality and exam difficulty level.

6.    I do not have a plan for all the courses, but only for the courses required by my major
Interviewee 4: Jonathan Jacob
1. I think you should   2. My classes start at 11    3. You should get your    4. College advisors
choose courses that     AM everyday and end at       requisites out of the     can be helpful, but it
go towards your         6 PM everyday. My            way as soon as you        really depends on
requirement.            Friday is usually free. I    can. But for your first   who you get. You
However, you            like classes later in the    semester, take classes    know who's helpful?
should be smart         day because I am more        you enjoy. TAKE A         Upperclassmen.
about it. Say, you're   aware and conscious in       WEIRD CLASS - a           They always have
a business major, but   the afternoon. Trust me,     class you never           good advice and
you're not so good at   do not take morning          thought would take. It    would usually direct
math. You should        classes especially in your   will enrich your          you where to go.
take business           first semester of college.   college experience        These students have
courses that require    There are so many things                               been through what
the least amount of     to do everyday. I stay up                              you're going through
math. I stay away       to 4 AM every night                                    so they know best.
from math and           socializing with people. I
reading-intensive       had 9 AM everyday my
courses.                first semester and I was
                        late to class half of the
                        time. But in the end, it's
                        your choice.
5. I do like my professors    6. No, I do not plan them     7. Yes, I dropped a writing
for the most part. In a       in a timeline. I plan my      seminar course my first
small college like            classes for every             semester because I did not
Brandeis, the faculty to      semester because you          identify with the topic at all
student ratio is low and      are always going to           (US-Israel Relations). It's
you get a lot of personal     change your mind on           not bad to drop a course
attention. Make sure you      what you want. It's not a     before the deadline. Even
go to your professor's        good idea to strictly         then, you can drop a class
office hours - they are       follow a formula of           with a W (Withdrawn). But
very helpful and it's a       courses. You should           of course, it looks better if
good way to build             keep in mind what             you drop it before a
friendly relations with       classes you should take,      deadline. That way, your
your professors. You          but you should never          transcript says that you
might need their              restrict yourself this way.   never took the course.
recommendations in the                                      Make sure you make up for
future so it's a good idea.                                 your dropped course. At
                                                            Brandeis, you have to take
                                                            a minimum of 7 courses in
                                                            a year.
Interviewee 5: Rudy Wang
1.  For a lot of courses, it's difficult to balance them out because they are required
    courses. Most of my friends focus on time management to get their work done.

2.  This semester, I have 9:30 AM classes followed by afternoon 2 PM classes. Morning
    classes are not bad as long as you don't select an 8 AM course. But then again, if
    you're one of those people who sleep late at night, like my roommate, make sure to
    get an 11 AM or later course.

4.  For me, I didn't think the college advisors are that helpful. Make connections with
    upperclassmen so they could help you through planning schedules and stuff. Ask
    around your friends, too, since they probably know more than the college advisors

5.  Yes, I do enjoy most of my professors, because they are patient and willing to take
    the time to help you out. 

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  • 1. Zen and the Art of Course Selection College Rules! Chapter 4
  • 2. Balance —  Balancing Tasks —  Balance between heavy and light courses —  Balancing Time —  Morning classes vs. afternoon classes —  Resist overloading! —  Balancing Interests —  Spread out your courses throughout the semester. —  Do not wait to take your least favorite “required” course
  • 3. College Advisors —  Always, always, always, ask questions! —  What type of things to ask your advisor: —  Course and degree requirements… —  Which professors to take… —  Internships… —  Summer jobs… —  Studying abroad opportunities…
  • 4. Picking Professors —  Professors > Courses on level of importance —  Find out from other students from their experiences —  Style of teaching —  Size of classes —  Grading procedures —  Overall level of difficulty —  www.ratemyprofessors.com —  Rates professors from different universities on quality, helpfulness, clarity, and easiness.
  • 5.
  • 6. Planning it out —  Make a timeline of what you plan to take —  Figure out how long it will take for you to get your degree
  • 7. Withdrawal •  You can drop a class if it’s in your best interest •  Too overwhelming •  Failing the course and can’t pull up the grade
  • 8. Interview Questions 1.  How do you balance your courses? (for example, when choosing courses, do you balance between heavy reading courses and those that require less reading, do you take all math courses, etc.) 2.  What time are all your classes? Do you take morning classes or do you prefer to sleep in and take classes later in the day? 3.  Do you have any "core" courses that you are required to take but you don't like? Have you already taken them or are you pushing to take those less interesting classes to the last possible semester. 4.  Are college advisors helpful? 5.  Do you like all your professors? Why or why not? 6.  Do you have a plan of all the courses you will take for the next four years (like a timeline)? 7.  Have you dropped any classes?
  • 9. Interviewee 1: Gina Lu 1.  The best way to balance the courses is to take two core/hard courses (usually 10 credits) and balance them with one or two easy courses (5-8 credits). I found this out the hard way since I kept taking 3 core classes… 2.  This quarter my classes begin at 10.30am and 8.30am and usually end before 2pm. I prefer afternoon classes but its quite impossible as most core classes are in the morning. 3.  I liked all of my core courses.  4.  College advisors are not exactly always helpful. 5.  Some professors are really good, but others are useless, I don’t learn anything. 6.  Yes, I have a plan of all the courses I will take before I graduate. 7.  Yes, I have dropped classes.
  • 10. Interviewee 2: Shaun chen 1.  Since the UC schools require students to take general education classes (classes that have nothing to do with your major), we use these classes to balance out with our main classes. 2.  I learned my lesson about 8 am classes, so i moved my earliest classes till 9 am. It is better to take some morning classes, since it gives you more time in the afternoon to do other work. 3.  None of my core courses are classes that I don't like. I am trying to double major, so I would need to take more courses each quarter. 4.  College advisors can only help you to a certain extent. The rest is on your own. 5.  Most of my professors are ok. Beware of professors with strong accents or harsh grading curves. Each college usually have a website with student evaluations of each professor. Checking that out would help you choose between lectures. 6.  Planning out is definitely helpful. It really makes you think about how many classes do you need to take to complete your major. 7.  I haven't dropped any classes. But some schools have a pass or no pass policy, which means that the grade for that class cannot be counted in your GPA, while still giving you the credit.
  • 11. Interviewee 3: michelle hao 1.  It's best to have a four-year plan going into college. Every major has its required courses...if you can choose what order to take them in, try to pair up a hard class with an easy class.  2.  Everyone's college schedule here changes a ton depending on the semester. Sometimes the class you need is only offered at 8am and maybe 6 pm. Also, we don't have a personal college advisor until we declare our major. And most people in Berkeley declare their major in the sophomore year. 3.  Berkeley has an "American Cultures" requirement and several others depending on your high school coursework. I think, at a big school, there are always enough options to find a great class.  4.  The reliability and helpfulness of college advisors depend on how many students they are responsible for. Your peers are another really good resource. 5.  None of my professors are mean, but some are better lecturers than others. Online course ratings give you a good idea of a professor's personality and exam difficulty level. 6.  I do not have a plan for all the courses, but only for the courses required by my major
  • 12. Interviewee 4: Jonathan Jacob 1. I think you should 2. My classes start at 11 3. You should get your 4. College advisors choose courses that AM everyday and end at requisites out of the can be helpful, but it go towards your 6 PM everyday. My way as soon as you really depends on requirement. Friday is usually free. I can. But for your first who you get. You However, you like classes later in the semester, take classes know who's helpful? should be smart day because I am more you enjoy. TAKE A Upperclassmen. about it. Say, you're aware and conscious in WEIRD CLASS - a They always have a business major, but the afternoon. Trust me, class you never good advice and you're not so good at do not take morning thought would take. It would usually direct math. You should classes especially in your will enrich your you where to go. take business first semester of college. college experience These students have courses that require There are so many things been through what the least amount of to do everyday. I stay up you're going through math. I stay away to 4 AM every night so they know best. from math and socializing with people. I reading-intensive had 9 AM everyday my courses. first semester and I was late to class half of the time. But in the end, it's your choice.
  • 13. 5. I do like my professors 6. No, I do not plan them 7. Yes, I dropped a writing for the most part. In a in a timeline. I plan my seminar course my first small college like classes for every semester because I did not Brandeis, the faculty to semester because you identify with the topic at all student ratio is low and are always going to (US-Israel Relations). It's you get a lot of personal change your mind on not bad to drop a course attention. Make sure you what you want. It's not a before the deadline. Even go to your professor's good idea to strictly then, you can drop a class office hours - they are follow a formula of with a W (Withdrawn). But very helpful and it's a courses. You should of course, it looks better if good way to build keep in mind what you drop it before a friendly relations with classes you should take, deadline. That way, your your professors. You but you should never transcript says that you might need their restrict yourself this way. never took the course. recommendations in the Make sure you make up for future so it's a good idea. your dropped course. At Brandeis, you have to take a minimum of 7 courses in a year.
  • 14. Interviewee 5: Rudy Wang 1.  For a lot of courses, it's difficult to balance them out because they are required courses. Most of my friends focus on time management to get their work done. 2.  This semester, I have 9:30 AM classes followed by afternoon 2 PM classes. Morning classes are not bad as long as you don't select an 8 AM course. But then again, if you're one of those people who sleep late at night, like my roommate, make sure to get an 11 AM or later course. 4.  For me, I didn't think the college advisors are that helpful. Make connections with upperclassmen so they could help you through planning schedules and stuff. Ask around your friends, too, since they probably know more than the college advisors 5.  Yes, I do enjoy most of my professors, because they are patient and willing to take the time to help you out.