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What is Going on at NYU Stern? ...
      and Lessons Learned



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What is Going on at NYU Stern? ... and Lesso


 If you are a Round 2 applicant to NYU Stern, then this
 post won't catch you by surprise, but there seems to be
 something very odd going on in the NYU admissions
 office this year.




               MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
What is Going on at NYU Stern? ...
For starters, there appear to be a number number of Round
2 applicants who are still waiting for decisions, over a week
past the stated notification deadline on the Stern website,
which is rather shocking (you would think the school could at
least send out a "we need more time" email).

Other students were recently admitted but did not receive a
call or even an email letting them know - instead they found
out just by randomly checking their status online.
Additionally, we have heard accounts of students being
waitlisted and then admitted just four days later, students
getting interviews after submitting deposits at another
school, and other odd anecdotes.
                 MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
It could just be that we've heard a few horror stories that do
not, in fact, define the process this year at Stern, but it
seems equally possible that NYU is having an "off year" in
terms of staying on top of things.

These things happen and we're not here to judge; especially
when it comes to one of our favorite MBA programs. We
love the immediacy and feistiness and collaborative nature
of NYU Stern and will continue to promote it as a top choice
to our future clients.

Do they appear to need a new notification system?
Absolutely. Are we down on Stern because of a few
frustrated whispers? Not necessarily.

                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
But we've learned a few things as well. And that's the
purpose of this post. Not to bash Stern based on some very
loose evidence, but rather to share some general lessons
learned about applying to business school. Anything that
helps people in the future is worth putting out there.

Here are three things we've zeroed in on, even as we hear
from frustrated clients and applicants:

1.Apply Early!
2.Understand Tradeoffs.
3.Don't Close Your Mind Off.




                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
1. Apply Early!

Whenever possible, get your application in early. It seems
that Round 2 applicants are having issues, while most of our
Round 1 clients got more prompt feedback and knew where
they stood much earlier in the process.

Whether the news was good or bad, people seemed to know
fairly early. For Round 2, nobody seemed to know where
they stood until the very end of the process (or even later)
and it seems like late Round 2 notifications is where
information broke down. For future candidates, do all you
can to apply earlier rather than later.



                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
2. Understand Tradeoffs.
It's important to understand what the pros and cons are to a
school's approach. NYU Stern has always favored "being
right" over "being fast." The admissions staff reads the files
and conducts the interviews, so things take much longer.

It's not surprising to hear that it is Stern struggling to stay on
top of the information flow. If it was a school like Booth -
who uses alumni interviewers, features over 40 student
ambassadors in the admissions office, and reads fewer
applications to booth - we would be surprised and
concerned.




                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
But Stern just has a harder time processing due to
manpower issues. (It's a big reason why MIT only uses two
rounds of admissions - they use admissions staff only to
review files and specially trained behavioral interviewers to
help them with interviewing.)

So what is the flip side? NYU Stern is more likely to find the
right fits and to identify students who will truly thrive there.
 All told, it is our experience that applicants get a very "true
read" at Stern.

This seems to be worth the tradeoff. (We know, easy for us
to say!)


                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
3. Don't Close Your Mind Off.
The last point is that you shouldn't rule a school out just
because of issues you like these. Even if you have put
down a deposit somewhere else and you get in late, be
open to the possibility.

This is especially true if Stern was at one point your top
choice, but even if not, don't get mad or made a decision out
of emotion or principle.

NYU Stern might be the ideal place for you to earn an MBA
and it doesn't do you any good to get frustrated at the
admissions office and rule it out.



                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
For starters, you only hurt yourself - they aren't going to
shed any tears over it.

Second, it places too much emphasis on the admissions
office in making a decision regarding your experience. Once
you get to b-school, you won't even go to the admissions
office. Make your choice based on all available information
and don't get hung up on how you feel you've been treated.

It's not personal, there are valid reasons why things happen,
and if there are really systemic problems, the school will pay
a larger price than your anger.




                  MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
 


 Hopefully this post helps any of you still dealing with
this. For those applying next year, keep these things
        in mind and make sure to apply early!




  http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com/

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What is going on at nyu stern ... and lessons learned

  • 1. What is Going on at NYU Stern? ... and Lessons Learned http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com/
  • 2. What is Going on at NYU Stern? ... and Lesso If you are a Round 2 applicant to NYU Stern, then this post won't catch you by surprise, but there seems to be something very odd going on in the NYU admissions office this year. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 3. What is Going on at NYU Stern? ... For starters, there appear to be a number number of Round 2 applicants who are still waiting for decisions, over a week past the stated notification deadline on the Stern website, which is rather shocking (you would think the school could at least send out a "we need more time" email). Other students were recently admitted but did not receive a call or even an email letting them know - instead they found out just by randomly checking their status online. Additionally, we have heard accounts of students being waitlisted and then admitted just four days later, students getting interviews after submitting deposits at another school, and other odd anecdotes. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 4. It could just be that we've heard a few horror stories that do not, in fact, define the process this year at Stern, but it seems equally possible that NYU is having an "off year" in terms of staying on top of things. These things happen and we're not here to judge; especially when it comes to one of our favorite MBA programs. We love the immediacy and feistiness and collaborative nature of NYU Stern and will continue to promote it as a top choice to our future clients. Do they appear to need a new notification system? Absolutely. Are we down on Stern because of a few frustrated whispers? Not necessarily. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 5. But we've learned a few things as well. And that's the purpose of this post. Not to bash Stern based on some very loose evidence, but rather to share some general lessons learned about applying to business school. Anything that helps people in the future is worth putting out there. Here are three things we've zeroed in on, even as we hear from frustrated clients and applicants: 1.Apply Early! 2.Understand Tradeoffs. 3.Don't Close Your Mind Off. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 6. 1. Apply Early! Whenever possible, get your application in early. It seems that Round 2 applicants are having issues, while most of our Round 1 clients got more prompt feedback and knew where they stood much earlier in the process. Whether the news was good or bad, people seemed to know fairly early. For Round 2, nobody seemed to know where they stood until the very end of the process (or even later) and it seems like late Round 2 notifications is where information broke down. For future candidates, do all you can to apply earlier rather than later. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 7. 2. Understand Tradeoffs. It's important to understand what the pros and cons are to a school's approach. NYU Stern has always favored "being right" over "being fast." The admissions staff reads the files and conducts the interviews, so things take much longer. It's not surprising to hear that it is Stern struggling to stay on top of the information flow. If it was a school like Booth - who uses alumni interviewers, features over 40 student ambassadors in the admissions office, and reads fewer applications to booth - we would be surprised and concerned. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 8. But Stern just has a harder time processing due to manpower issues. (It's a big reason why MIT only uses two rounds of admissions - they use admissions staff only to review files and specially trained behavioral interviewers to help them with interviewing.) So what is the flip side? NYU Stern is more likely to find the right fits and to identify students who will truly thrive there. All told, it is our experience that applicants get a very "true read" at Stern. This seems to be worth the tradeoff. (We know, easy for us to say!) MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 9. 3. Don't Close Your Mind Off. The last point is that you shouldn't rule a school out just because of issues you like these. Even if you have put down a deposit somewhere else and you get in late, be open to the possibility. This is especially true if Stern was at one point your top choice, but even if not, don't get mad or made a decision out of emotion or principle. NYU Stern might be the ideal place for you to earn an MBA and it doesn't do you any good to get frustrated at the admissions office and rule it out. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 10. For starters, you only hurt yourself - they aren't going to shed any tears over it. Second, it places too much emphasis on the admissions office in making a decision regarding your experience. Once you get to b-school, you won't even go to the admissions office. Make your choice based on all available information and don't get hung up on how you feel you've been treated. It's not personal, there are valid reasons why things happen, and if there are really systemic problems, the school will pay a larger price than your anger. MBA Admissions Consultant | http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com
  • 11.   Hopefully this post helps any of you still dealing with this. For those applying next year, keep these things in mind and make sure to apply early! http://www.amerasiaconsulting.com/