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Which fluid and when? Craig Morris Derby Consultant Intensivist and Anaesthetist Honorary Lecturer Universities Derby and Teesside
Housekeeping Non-promotional Corporate educational material No conflicts Retraction Boldt 	A&A 2009;109:1752-62 	>200 publications…  http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c7026.full
www.derbyintensivecareecho.co.uk (DICE)
Content: which fluid and when? Resuscitation not maintenance Colloid 	Starch Crystalloid 	“Balanced” solutions Recommendations?
To debate hot issues in fluid management, including ,[object Object]
Blood transfusion triggers?
Are old RBCs ok?
Do colloids cause renal failure?
Acidosis – good or bad?
Do I have to use 1:1 FFP:RBCs in massive haemorrhage?
What is the haemodynamic monitor of choice?
Does saline really harm patients?http://www.ebpom.org/
Sizes RBC 7 μ Capillary width 5 μ Endothelial cell thickness 0.2 μ Large pore 40 nm Small pore 5 nm The “size” of colloid is not what keeps it put!!!  K+  0.15nm Na+ 0.10 nm Starch fragments 4.5nm Albumin 3.5nm
Relative sizes… RBC 7μ Large pore 40nm Small pore 5nm Colloid 5nm (1/10 pore)  1mm muscle 32 endothelial cells 10 000 small pores 2 large pores Pore area <0.05% surface area
Molecular weights Older HES >500 kDa Modern  HES 140 kDa Biological HES 70kDa HES amylase fragments 50 kDa Albumin 70 kDa Renal threshold Gelatines MW 30kDa Crystalloid < 1 kDa Dextran 40 (10%)-  70 (6%) kDa
Colloid kinetics Pores 5- 40 nm Albumin < 5 nm Basement membrane negative charge stops leak NOT size Albumin net negative charge -15
Brief colloid/ HES ,[object Object]
Inert (glycogen)
Osmolality 6%
Renal clearance
No “surprises” eg coagulation,[object Object]
Molecular weight MW (weight average MW)= viscosity MN (number average MW or median)= oncotic effect Monodisperse (eg albumin) Polydisperse (MW/MN= index) Voluven 130 +- 20kDa in vitro
HES substitution Water bindingcapacity20 ml g-1HES Increases water binding Resists amylase “Chose” ,[object Object]
 Proportion glucose HE
 Position,[object Object]
Position HES groups ,[object Object]
C2 resistant amylase
↑ C2/C6 ratio ↑intravascular space,[object Object]
The life of HES Starting macromolecule In vitro MW  EgHemohes200 kDa Voluven 130 kDa In vivo MW  EgElohes 145 kDa Voluven 65 kDa Amylase smaller  molecules  Aim to have in vivo MW above renal threshold Lysis increases osmotic effect!!! 50kDa renal threshold Renally eliminated
In vivo lysis HES 6%, 450/0.65  3:1 Br J ClinPharm `1979;7:505- 9
HES: a few numbers ,[object Object]
MW (kDa)
 Substitution (coagulation)
 C2/C6 (coagulation)
 Suspending solution,[object Object]
Potato vs maize? Potato ↑amylose, esters, P and 20% amylase “= pentastarch + HES 130/0.4/9 : 1 colloid osmotic.. + haemodilution” HES 130/0.42/6 : 1 fastest clearance ↑ Viscosity No head to head Tetraspanvs albumin CRF http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00936247 http://www.bbraun.com/cps/rde/xchg/bbraun-com/hs.xsl/plasma-volume-replacement.html http://adisonline.com/drugsrd/Abstract/2007/08040/Bioequivalence_ Comparison_between_Hydroxyethyl.3.aspx
Contained 2 studies 10% Pentastarch 200/ 0.5 in 0.9% saline (Hemohes) vs lactated Ringer’s  Stopped early Ringer’s Lactate (Sterofundin, B. Braun). 1000 ml Na+ 140, K+ 4.0, Ca++ 2.5 Mg++ 1.0, Cl- 106 lactate- 45.0 (mmol) VISEP group NEJM 2008;358:125- 39
VISEP- a problem?
Whatever HES 200/0.5 does,  it is not  improved haemodynamics!
Dose dependent 250mlkg-1 18litres The whole point is You are meant to give  less!!
Hyperoncotic colloids AKI assoc hyperoncotic starch,  albumin,dextran… mannitol But not saline! Shortgen. Intensive Care Med 2008;34:2157- 68 Ragaller et al, J.Am.Soc.Nephrol. 2001
VISEP- should I worry? YES! X2 rates CRRT No benefit Alternatives exist Consistent previous work Would you use it as a “drug”? NO! Complex design Lactated solution vs chloride Hyperoncotic colloid Not representative “current” HES Perhaps AKI is only with higher doses 10% 200/0.5... It doesn’t improve heamodynamics, costs more and assoc death
I don’t do ICU... Sick laparotomy Pressors AKI Elderly, gent, CT... Avoid 10% 200/ 0.5 Await further studies?...
HES 130/ 0.4 N= 363 Retrospective 2 organ failures HES 130/ 0.4 France, non-protocolised 763 ml HES 48 hrs, 1.4l 21 days Both identical >6l crystalloid PRC 2.8 vs 3.9 Boussekey et al., Critical Care, 2010
Starches: max “dose” Even with modern LMW tetrastarches 50 mlkg-1
Albumin SAFE overall = Cochrane= SAFE Crystalloid 1.4:1  colloid not 3:1 Possible benefit sepsis? 	RR 0.77 controlled Possible harm trauma? Finfer S. NEJM 2004;350:2247- 56 Vincent JL. CCM 2004;32:2029- 38
HyperCl- Associatedn+v Cells sepsis Splanchnic perfusion Pyloric dysfunction Renal effects Coagulation Handy JM. BJA 2008;101:141- 50
Keyser Soze I don’t believe in the devil,  but that doesn’t mean I’m not scared of him…
Alternatives Morris CG et al. Anaesthesia 2009;64:703- 5
The irony! Gelofusine® is a 4% solution of modified fluid gelatine. It contains 154 mmol/l sodium but only 120 mmol/l chloride because of the substantial negative charge of the gelatine molecules…  http://www.iv-partner.com/index.cfm?2A450D1AB7B24C098978DB9F6D6602DB
Safer than Cl- ? Acetate-> hypotension Lactate assoc hypotension Osmotic effects Direct toxicity Glucose and protein metabolism Chloride effects? Morris CG et al. Anaesthesia 2009;64:703- 5 Handy JM. BJA 2008;101:141- 50
Demand more! “Ringer’s” few flavours! Manufacturer: cheap + stable in solution… 	(Acetate, malate, gluconate, lactate) Clinician: try again… http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16163918?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn http://www.ajinomoto.com/about/rd/pharmaceutical.html
CRRT solution HCO3- separate pouch Mix administration
Bicarbonated Ringer’s  HCO3- rapid-> CO2 + CaCO3ppt Add citrate 5mEql chelate Ca 1 mEql Mg Add CO2pH 7.0
What fluids and when? I (and no one else) can make a  level 1 recommendation for practice…
GIFTASUP: periop http://journal.ics.ac.uk/pdf/1001013.pdf
What about Shortgen, VISEP, Cochrane,  sepsis, renal impairment,  and lack of improved outcomes?...
Compared with Gelofusine, the perioperative pulmonary function  of patients treated with HES (Elohaes) after AAA was better. Ortho HES 200 0.5 vs 3% gelatine Comparable COP, clinical expansion the haemodynamics in the two colloid groups appeared to be similar,  but superior to the Ringer’s acetate group (alb 4% vs 6% 130/0.4)  3.5% urea-linked gelatin is as effective as 6% HES 200/0.5  for volume management in cardiac surgery patients… HES could result in a higher need for allogeneic blood transfusion.  Rittoo. BJA 2004 Beyer BJA 1997 Shramko. Perfusion 2010 Linden CJA 2004
Periop confused?... You will be! ,[object Object]
Surrogates or basic science
Non-inferiority healthy volunteers
Gelatine vs HES very close
Lap chole 1l Gelo vs Voluven (4 hrs!)http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00868062?term=gelatin+and+hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=1
Mortality end point? Major non-cardiac (n= 90) LR vs 6% HES vs 6% balanced Thio + sux OR 7mlkg-1 loading and  5mlkg-1 hr-1 RL intraop Morretti. A+A 2003;96:611- 7
Outcomes CRF exclusion! 6% Hetastarch: Hextend 650/0.7/4:1 10% difference mortality n= 5 700
Costs >£200 000 annually!!!
4Sinclair S. BMJ 1997 5McKendry M. BMJ 2004  1Venn R et al. BJA 2002 2Wakeling HG et al. BJA 2005 3Noblett SE. BJS 2006
Gelatine Noblett BJS 2006 Succinylated 4% gelatine (Volplex) Wakeling HG. BJA 2005
HES Sinclair S. BMJ 1997 # NOF HES 3mlkg-1 McKendry M. BMJ 2004 Mixture colloids: Hespan 450/0.7
FRACTALE #NOF ODM guided 30% ↓ death + complications N= 800, >70 HES 130/0.4 Cholley B et al http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00444262?term =trauma+and+hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=11

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Which fluid and when aagbi wsm

  • 1. Which fluid and when? Craig Morris Derby Consultant Intensivist and Anaesthetist Honorary Lecturer Universities Derby and Teesside
  • 2. Housekeeping Non-promotional Corporate educational material No conflicts Retraction Boldt A&A 2009;109:1752-62 >200 publications… http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c7026.full
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  • 5. Content: which fluid and when? Resuscitation not maintenance Colloid Starch Crystalloid “Balanced” solutions Recommendations?
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  • 9. Do colloids cause renal failure?
  • 11. Do I have to use 1:1 FFP:RBCs in massive haemorrhage?
  • 12. What is the haemodynamic monitor of choice?
  • 13. Does saline really harm patients?http://www.ebpom.org/
  • 14. Sizes RBC 7 μ Capillary width 5 μ Endothelial cell thickness 0.2 μ Large pore 40 nm Small pore 5 nm The “size” of colloid is not what keeps it put!!! K+ 0.15nm Na+ 0.10 nm Starch fragments 4.5nm Albumin 3.5nm
  • 15. Relative sizes… RBC 7μ Large pore 40nm Small pore 5nm Colloid 5nm (1/10 pore) 1mm muscle 32 endothelial cells 10 000 small pores 2 large pores Pore area <0.05% surface area
  • 16. Molecular weights Older HES >500 kDa Modern HES 140 kDa Biological HES 70kDa HES amylase fragments 50 kDa Albumin 70 kDa Renal threshold Gelatines MW 30kDa Crystalloid < 1 kDa Dextran 40 (10%)- 70 (6%) kDa
  • 17. Colloid kinetics Pores 5- 40 nm Albumin < 5 nm Basement membrane negative charge stops leak NOT size Albumin net negative charge -15
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  • 23. Molecular weight MW (weight average MW)= viscosity MN (number average MW or median)= oncotic effect Monodisperse (eg albumin) Polydisperse (MW/MN= index) Voluven 130 +- 20kDa in vitro
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  • 30. The life of HES Starting macromolecule In vitro MW EgHemohes200 kDa Voluven 130 kDa In vivo MW EgElohes 145 kDa Voluven 65 kDa Amylase smaller molecules Aim to have in vivo MW above renal threshold Lysis increases osmotic effect!!! 50kDa renal threshold Renally eliminated
  • 31. In vivo lysis HES 6%, 450/0.65 3:1 Br J ClinPharm `1979;7:505- 9
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  • 38. Potato vs maize? Potato ↑amylose, esters, P and 20% amylase “= pentastarch + HES 130/0.4/9 : 1 colloid osmotic.. + haemodilution” HES 130/0.42/6 : 1 fastest clearance ↑ Viscosity No head to head Tetraspanvs albumin CRF http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00936247 http://www.bbraun.com/cps/rde/xchg/bbraun-com/hs.xsl/plasma-volume-replacement.html http://adisonline.com/drugsrd/Abstract/2007/08040/Bioequivalence_ Comparison_between_Hydroxyethyl.3.aspx
  • 39. Contained 2 studies 10% Pentastarch 200/ 0.5 in 0.9% saline (Hemohes) vs lactated Ringer’s Stopped early Ringer’s Lactate (Sterofundin, B. Braun). 1000 ml Na+ 140, K+ 4.0, Ca++ 2.5 Mg++ 1.0, Cl- 106 lactate- 45.0 (mmol) VISEP group NEJM 2008;358:125- 39
  • 41. Whatever HES 200/0.5 does, it is not improved haemodynamics!
  • 42. Dose dependent 250mlkg-1 18litres The whole point is You are meant to give less!!
  • 43. Hyperoncotic colloids AKI assoc hyperoncotic starch, albumin,dextran… mannitol But not saline! Shortgen. Intensive Care Med 2008;34:2157- 68 Ragaller et al, J.Am.Soc.Nephrol. 2001
  • 44. VISEP- should I worry? YES! X2 rates CRRT No benefit Alternatives exist Consistent previous work Would you use it as a “drug”? NO! Complex design Lactated solution vs chloride Hyperoncotic colloid Not representative “current” HES Perhaps AKI is only with higher doses 10% 200/0.5... It doesn’t improve heamodynamics, costs more and assoc death
  • 45. I don’t do ICU... Sick laparotomy Pressors AKI Elderly, gent, CT... Avoid 10% 200/ 0.5 Await further studies?...
  • 46. HES 130/ 0.4 N= 363 Retrospective 2 organ failures HES 130/ 0.4 France, non-protocolised 763 ml HES 48 hrs, 1.4l 21 days Both identical >6l crystalloid PRC 2.8 vs 3.9 Boussekey et al., Critical Care, 2010
  • 47. Starches: max “dose” Even with modern LMW tetrastarches 50 mlkg-1
  • 48. Albumin SAFE overall = Cochrane= SAFE Crystalloid 1.4:1 colloid not 3:1 Possible benefit sepsis? RR 0.77 controlled Possible harm trauma? Finfer S. NEJM 2004;350:2247- 56 Vincent JL. CCM 2004;32:2029- 38
  • 49. HyperCl- Associatedn+v Cells sepsis Splanchnic perfusion Pyloric dysfunction Renal effects Coagulation Handy JM. BJA 2008;101:141- 50
  • 50. Keyser Soze I don’t believe in the devil, but that doesn’t mean I’m not scared of him…
  • 51. Alternatives Morris CG et al. Anaesthesia 2009;64:703- 5
  • 52. The irony! Gelofusine® is a 4% solution of modified fluid gelatine. It contains 154 mmol/l sodium but only 120 mmol/l chloride because of the substantial negative charge of the gelatine molecules… http://www.iv-partner.com/index.cfm?2A450D1AB7B24C098978DB9F6D6602DB
  • 53. Safer than Cl- ? Acetate-> hypotension Lactate assoc hypotension Osmotic effects Direct toxicity Glucose and protein metabolism Chloride effects? Morris CG et al. Anaesthesia 2009;64:703- 5 Handy JM. BJA 2008;101:141- 50
  • 54. Demand more! “Ringer’s” few flavours! Manufacturer: cheap + stable in solution… (Acetate, malate, gluconate, lactate) Clinician: try again… http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16163918?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn http://www.ajinomoto.com/about/rd/pharmaceutical.html
  • 55. CRRT solution HCO3- separate pouch Mix administration
  • 56. Bicarbonated Ringer’s HCO3- rapid-> CO2 + CaCO3ppt Add citrate 5mEql chelate Ca 1 mEql Mg Add CO2pH 7.0
  • 57. What fluids and when? I (and no one else) can make a level 1 recommendation for practice…
  • 59.
  • 60. What about Shortgen, VISEP, Cochrane, sepsis, renal impairment, and lack of improved outcomes?...
  • 61. Compared with Gelofusine, the perioperative pulmonary function of patients treated with HES (Elohaes) after AAA was better. Ortho HES 200 0.5 vs 3% gelatine Comparable COP, clinical expansion the haemodynamics in the two colloid groups appeared to be similar, but superior to the Ringer’s acetate group (alb 4% vs 6% 130/0.4) 3.5% urea-linked gelatin is as effective as 6% HES 200/0.5 for volume management in cardiac surgery patients… HES could result in a higher need for allogeneic blood transfusion. Rittoo. BJA 2004 Beyer BJA 1997 Shramko. Perfusion 2010 Linden CJA 2004
  • 62.
  • 65. Gelatine vs HES very close
  • 66. Lap chole 1l Gelo vs Voluven (4 hrs!)http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00868062?term=gelatin+and+hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=1
  • 67.
  • 68. Mortality end point? Major non-cardiac (n= 90) LR vs 6% HES vs 6% balanced Thio + sux OR 7mlkg-1 loading and 5mlkg-1 hr-1 RL intraop Morretti. A+A 2003;96:611- 7
  • 69. Outcomes CRF exclusion! 6% Hetastarch: Hextend 650/0.7/4:1 10% difference mortality n= 5 700
  • 70. Costs >£200 000 annually!!!
  • 71. 4Sinclair S. BMJ 1997 5McKendry M. BMJ 2004 1Venn R et al. BJA 2002 2Wakeling HG et al. BJA 2005 3Noblett SE. BJS 2006
  • 72. Gelatine Noblett BJS 2006 Succinylated 4% gelatine (Volplex) Wakeling HG. BJA 2005
  • 73. HES Sinclair S. BMJ 1997 # NOF HES 3mlkg-1 McKendry M. BMJ 2004 Mixture colloids: Hespan 450/0.7
  • 74. FRACTALE #NOF ODM guided 30% ↓ death + complications N= 800, >70 HES 130/0.4 Cholley B et al http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00444262?term =trauma+and+hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=11
  • 75. Critical Care *CIST http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00890383?term=trauma+and+hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=3
  • 76. Surviving Sepsis Campaign CCM 2008, SAFE 2004 http://www.survivingsepsis.org/About_the_Campaign/Documents/Final%2008%20SSC%20Guidelines.pdf
  • 77. Gelatine vs HES sepsis (2001) HES 200/ 0.6 (Elohes) vs 3% gelatin (Plasmagel) ARF, creatinine and oliguria all higher HES HES independent risk factor ARF X 2.57 http://wwdaa.com/adqi/web_users/akin4/references%20AKIN%20wg%204/ Shortgen. Lancet 2001
  • 78. ARDS: Replacement albumin with HES Red= RR ARF/ ARDS Black albumin Green HES (200 to 2002 -> 130 N= 44 http://www.springerlink.com/content/h765t1llj424518m/ http://www.pptaglobal.org/
  • 79. Burns Crystalloid Vs colloid Which type colloid Unresolved… N= 30 HemoHaes 10% 200/0/5 vscrystallloid (LR) 11.2 vs 7.1 (1.6:1) RR death 7.12 CRRT 25% vs 7% ARDS identical Ventilators 7 vs 12 (HES) Bechir M. Crit Care 2010;14:R123
  • 80. Management of Major Trauma Crystalloids initially (1B) Consider hypertonic solutions (2B) Suggest addition of colloids in unstable (2C) “modern HES or gelatin” Avoid dextran or albumin Retrospective aggressive resuscitation-> compartment syd Pre-hospital assoc coagulopathy (>40% 2l, >70% 4l) Rossaint et al: Trauma and bleeding a European Guideline. Crit Care 2010;14:R52 Maegele et al. Injury 2007;38:298- 304
  • 81. EAST: Pre-hospital Level 2 ...vascular access at the scene of injury...delays patient transport to definitive care and... benefit is lacking Iv fluids... Withheld... pre-hospital... patients with penetrating torso injuries Level 3: (a) Iv fluid resuscitation... withheld until active bleeding/hemorrhage addressed (b) Iv fluid... titrated for palpable radial pulse using (250ml) boluses of fluid rather than fixed volumes or continuous administration http://www.east.org/tpg/FluidResus.pdf
  • 82. NICE 2004: Hypovolaemic shock Ie absent radial or central pulse Boluses crystalloid to return pulse Shouldn’t delay transport (ieen route) “...only healthcare professionals who have been appropriately trained in advanced life-support techniques and pre-hospital care should administer intravenous fluid therapy in the pre-hospital setting” https://www.nice.org.uk/niceMedia/pdf/2004_006_prehospfluidtherapy.pdf
  • 83. If fluid is given which type? Level 1: (a) There is insufficient data to recommend one solution or type of fluid... (b) Boluses (250 mL) of 3% and 7.5% hypertonic saline (HTS) are equivalent (...vascular expansion and hemodynamic changes) to large volume boluses (one liter) of standard solutions such as lactated Ringer’s (LR) or 0.9% normal saline (NS)
  • 84. EAST resuscitation trauma Level 1 There is insufficient data to formulate a level 1 recommendation. Level 2 1. During resuscitation, attempts should be made to increase O2 delivery to normalize base deficit, lactate, or pHi during the first 24 hours. The optimal algorithms for fluid resuscitation, blood product replacement, and the use of inotropes and/or vasopressors have not been determined. http://www.east.org/tpg/endpoints.pdf
  • 85. Ongoing studies 58 studies HES CEASE: 6% Hetastarchvs 5% albumin ARDS 6S Tetraspan HES vsRingerfundin acetate septic shock http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=hydroxyethyl+starch http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00796419?term=hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=14 http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00962156?term=hydroxyethyl+starch&rank=13
  • 86.
  • 89. Mortality, AKI and organ failures
  • 91.
  • 92. ...34 studies (2607 patients)... RR of kidney failure 1.50 (95% CI 1.20 to 1.87; n = 1199) and 1.38 for requiring RRT (95% CI 0.89 to 2.16; n = 1236) in HES treated individuals compared with other fluid therapies. Subgroup analyses suggested increased risk in septic patients compared to non-septic (surgical/trauma) patientshttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20091640?ordinalpos=1&itool= PPMCLayout.PPMCAppController.PPMCArticlePage.PPMCPubmedRA&linkpos=3 http://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab007594.html
  • 93. Recommendations for practice… No level 1 Fit volunteers tolerate anything All fluids leak and come with baggage Colloids expensive SAFE colloid (4% albumin) vs crystalloid (0.9% saline)= Ratio 1: 1.4 No evidence superiority colloid Albumin ↓morbidity and mortality sepsis Albumin ↑mortality trauma/ TBI
  • 94. Recommendations for practice “Routine” perioperativefluid-> Hartmann’s Gelatine vs HES... Still going! SV/ optimisation both-> gelatine cheaper, no AKI AKI HES MW, substitution, osmolality/ lack crystalloid (+ Sepsis, renal impairment) VISEP 50% ↑CRRT, ↑mortality CHEST ongoing (HES 130/0.4 vs saline) Sepsis or kidney impairment avoid HES
  • 95. Recommendations for practice ARDS pathogenesis + fluid-> controversial ARDS established-> -ve balance Little evidence colloid preventing ARDS Impact hyperCl- unclear Benefit “balanced” alternatives unclear Demand better “balanced”
  • 96. Summary HES fascinating-> evolving drugs Lots volunteer, non-inferiority studies! HES: origin, MW, substitution, C2:C6 Few level 1 recommendations SAFE only robust crystalloid vs colloid (saline/alb) CHEST recruiting (HES/ saline)
  • 97. Thank you So, where does this leave us in the big fluid debate? The present results are interesting and add another little piece to the big puzzle, but much more work is needed before we will be able to see the full picture and to better determine where each fluid fits. Although we use these fluids every day, we still know surprisingly little about them. http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/content/104/3/484.full.pdf+html