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Growth Strategies:
Retention is the New
    Acquisition

            Your presenter:
            Denise Wymore
When the going gets tough....
When the going gets tough....




The tough don’t cut back on marketing!!!
But you should take this opportunity to STOP
doing what doesn’t work....
“We need to
 go after...”
“We need to
 go after...”
"Stalking" is defined as repeated and persistent
unwanted communications and/or approaches that
produce fear in the victim. The stalker may use such
means as telephone calls, letters, e-mail, graffiti
and placing notices in the media.
"Stalking" is defined as repeated and persistent
unwanted communications and/or approaches that
produce fear in the victim. The stalker may use such
means as telephone calls, letters, e-mail, graffiti
and placing notices in the media.



               (a.k.a. Marketing)
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    Talking
The price tag for all this
       stalking?
The price tag for all this
       stalking?
   $250.00 per new member*
The price tag for all this
       stalking?
           $250.00 per new member*


*Sheshunoff - it costs community financial institutions approximately $250-$275
                       to acquire a new member/customer
The PFI myth. . .
The PFI myth. . .

         The average customer has 1.56 -
          2.2 relationships with their PFI
The PFI myth. . .

              The average customer has 1.56 -
               2.2 relationships with their PFI

Typical households have as many
 as 8 different financial service
            providers.
The PFI myth. . .

                 The average customer has 1.56 -
                  2.2 relationships with their PFI

  Typical households have as many
   as 8 different financial service
              providers.

First year attrition rates are as
          high as 25%!
loyal   vs.   satisfied
loyal   vs.   satisfied
loyal   vs.   satisfied
Banking is an errand.
I get in, I get out, no one gets hurt...




                                 ...I am satisfied.
We asked the wrong question:
We asked the wrong question:


          On a scale from 1 - 7:
          How satisfied are you with the
          credit union?




                                  Comments:
Loyal members do three things:
Loyal members do three things:


   1. Buy more from you. (repeat business)

   2. Market for you! (tell their friends/co-workers)

   3. Tell you how to improve your business
    (“I’ve been a member since....”)
Instead of “going after” your members
      let’s try listening to them.
Instead of “going after” your members
      let’s try listening to them.


           By asking the ultimate
                question....
Net Promoter asks the “ultimate” question:
Net Promoter asks the “ultimate” question:


                                     WHY did you
                                  answer the way you
                                         did?


"On a scale from 0 - 10...
How likely is it that you would
recommend the Credit Union to
a friend, family member or
colleague?"
“You can’t grow a business unless you treat people so well
      that they come back and bring their friends.”
        - Fred Reichheld, The Ultimate Question
Net Promoter Score Sheet*
GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth




      *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
Net Promoter Score Sheet*
 GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth




Detractors = 0-6
Unhappy customers trapped in a bad
relationship




         *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
Net Promoter Score Sheet*
 GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth




                                      Passives = 7-8
                                      Satisfied but can be easily wooed by the competition
Detractors = 0-6
Unhappy customers trapped in a bad
relationship




         *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
Net Promoter Score Sheet*
 GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth

                                                     Promoters = 9-10
                                                     Loyal enthusiasts who keep buying and
                                                     urge their friends to do the same
                                      Passives = 7-8
                                      Satisfied but can be easily wooed by the competition
Detractors = 0-6
Unhappy customers trapped in a bad
relationship




         *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
Net Promoter Score Sheet*
GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth




            P - D = NPS



      *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
Net Promoter Score Sheet*
GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth




            P - D = NPS



      *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
NPS Leaders in the US




Average American company sputters along at 20%
NPS Leaders in the US



           USAA = 82%




Average American company sputters along at 20%
NPS Leaders in the US



           USAA = 82%




Average American company sputters along at 20%
NPS Leaders in the US



           USAA = 82%


        COSTCO = 79%




Average American company sputters along at 20%
NPS Leaders in the US



           USAA = 82%


        COSTCO = 79%


            Apple = 79%




Average American company sputters along at 20%
NPS leaders do crazy things:
NPS leaders do crazy things:



    1. Pay their people too much.
    2. Fire customers.
    3. Pay employees to quit.
    4. Don’t try to appeal to everyone.
    5. Charge the most in their category.
COSTCO and NPS
COSTCO and NPS
                          Score = 79%

                       45 million members.

      Sales per store are almost twice of nearest competitor
                     Wal-Mart’s SAM’S CLUB

              Very little money spent on advertising.

Low turnover and long tenure boost productivity, reduces costs.
Business leaders in all industries are
adopting Net Promoter
Business leaders in all industries are
   Business leaders in all industries are adopting
adopting Net Promoter
    Net Promoter
The Credit Union
    Average

    SOURCE: Filene Research Institute and Satmetrix
The Credit Union
    Average
               54.3%
    SOURCE: Filene Research Institute and Satmetrix
Credit Union Membership in the US

       87500   190625           293750     396875   500000




2005


2006

 2007

 2008

                        # of New Members




Credit unions were beginning to steal
     members from each other!
Perception vs. Performance Gap
Perception vs. vs. Performance Gap
      Perception Performance Gap


                            100%



                            80%
     Percent of Companies




                            60%    80%              8%
                                   Companies that   Companies
                                    believe they      whose
                            40%
                                      provide a     customers
                                      superior        agree
                                     experience
                            20%



                            0%

                                     Believers      Achievers
     Source: Bain & Company
The 8% of Achievers Vastly
Outperform their Competition
The 8% of Achievers Vastly
     The 8% of Achievers Vastly Outperform their
Outperform their Competition
     Competition

       Average annual real revenue growth       Average annual real net income growth

         20%
                                     19%        10%
                                                                         9%
                                                8%
         15%

                                                6%
         10%
                                                4%
                                                           3%
           5%
                                                2%
                              2%
           0%                                   0%
                    Non-Achievers   Achievers         Non-Achievers   Achievers
     Source: Bain & Company
SOURCE: Satmetrix
Unlucky.




           SOURCE: Satmetrix
The Bank Average
“Banking had an average NPS of approximately 15%, with USAA leading at more
than 100 points above the sector’s laggard, Citigroup.”




                          SOURCE: Satmetrix - Spring 2009 report
The Bank Average
“Banking had an average NPS of approximately 15%, with USAA leading at more
than 100 points above the sector’s laggard, Citigroup.”


                                     15%
                          SOURCE: Satmetrix - Spring 2009 report
The Promoter Advantage
          Loyalty Economics

                                                              4000




                                                              3000




                                                               2000




                                                               1000




                                                                0
    Have referred            Will likely stay

                        Promoters
                        Detractors


         SOURCE: Satmetrix and Filene Research Study - 2007
Loyalty Economics


             7%




                              And it’s FREE!

      93%




Detractors        Promoters
“How many friends, family members or colleagues have
you referred to the Credit Union in the last 12 months?”

         1,045 members responded
                 Loyalty Economics


                               7%




                                                And it’s FREE!

                        93%




                  Detractors        Promoters




        1,197 members were referred.
Is there a correlation between NPS and growth in
                     a company?

Yes! In a 2003 study based on more than
150,000 customers, we found a very strong
correlation between Net Promoter Scores
and a company’s growth relative to its
competitors. From the airline industry, to
retail banks, to delivery services, to personal
computers, firms with the best NPS
demonstrated superior growth. Companies
that have achieved sustainable growth over a
ten year period have double the NPS of
others.
Is there a correlation between NPS and growth in
                     a company?

Yes! In a 2003 study based on more than
150,000 customers, we found a very strong
correlation between Net Promoter Scores
and a company’s growth relative to its
competitors. From the airline industry, to
retail banks, to delivery services, to personal
computers, firms with the best NPS
demonstrated superior growth. Companies
that have achieved sustainable growth over a
ten year period have double the NPS of
others.
Hope is not a strategy.

That's also the penalty of expectations. Amazon became
the category leader in online retailing because it set
new expectations in online shopping, and it almost
always meets or exceeds them; its Net Promoter Score
ranking is 36 points above the median in its category.
Category leaders are cultural leaders in business,
sports, non-profits and government. Strategies,
behaviors and some lives are modeled on category
leaders. It's a perk and a responsibility. It's heady
and scary. The cost of reticence is goodwill.
“I believe most CEOs do care--at least strategically--
about having happy users, but wouldn't waste a single
synapse actually thinking about specific ways to make
                                            it happen.”
                  - Kathy Siera, Creating Passionate Users Blog.
NPS helps you avoid
   bad profits.
Bank fees growing more numerous and expensive
AMY REININK Sun staff writer
Published: Sunday, June 10, 2007 at 11:40 a.m.
Last Modified: Sunday, June 10, 2007 at 12:00 a.m.




The fees kept adding up.
First, Sun State Credit Union charged Gainesville resident Karen Soesbe $2 for
coming in more than four times a month. Next came the charge for not
having her transaction slip ready at the drive-through window.
When Soesbe was charged for not using the credit union's telephone
banking system, she decided to fight back, sending an angry letter to the credit
union's president and filing a formal complaint with the National Credit Union
Association.
"I was outraged," Soesbe said. "It's not a lot of money. I know that. But to be
charged $2 just for not having your bank slip at the drive-through teller just
seems wrong."

 In Soesbe's case, Sun State abandoned the three fees voluntarily. Sun State President and CEO
 Jim Woodward said the decision was based on exit interviews with members leaving
 the credit union, and that the move was already in the works when Soesbe complained.
Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship.


                Good Profit - Bad Profit
Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship.


                Good Profit - Bad Profit


    $50 membership fee
    to COSTCO with
    rebate at the end of
    the year on all your
    purchases.
Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship.


                Good Profit - Bad Profit


    $50 membership fee         Everything the airlines are doing
    to COSTCO with             today.
    rebate at the end of       Charging for:
    the year on all your       - pillows
    purchases.                 - sodas
                               - headsets to watch the movie
                               - checked luggage
Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship.


                Good Profit - Bad Profit


    $50 membership fee         Everything the airlines are doing
    to COSTCO with             today.
    rebate at the end of       Charging for:
    the year on all your       - pillows
    purchases.                 - sodas
                               - headsets to watch the movie
                               - checked luggage
      Except Southwest
          Airlines
Truth in Advertising:
Truth in Advertising:
Do what you say you’re going to do.
Do what you say you’re going to do.




NPS bridges the gap between what you say you are
 going to do and what you are known for doing.
www.denisewymore.com
    me@denisewymore.com
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Growth Strategies: Retention is the New Acquisition

  • 1. Growth Strategies: Retention is the New Acquisition Your presenter: Denise Wymore
  • 2. When the going gets tough....
  • 3. When the going gets tough.... The tough don’t cut back on marketing!!!
  • 4. But you should take this opportunity to STOP doing what doesn’t work....
  • 5. “We need to go after...”
  • 6. “We need to go after...”
  • 7. "Stalking" is defined as repeated and persistent unwanted communications and/or approaches that produce fear in the victim. The stalker may use such means as telephone calls, letters, e-mail, graffiti and placing notices in the media.
  • 8. "Stalking" is defined as repeated and persistent unwanted communications and/or approaches that produce fear in the victim. The stalker may use such means as telephone calls, letters, e-mail, graffiti and placing notices in the media. (a.k.a. Marketing)
  • 9. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 10. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 11. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 12. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 13. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 14. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 15. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 16. Marketing Media Timeline: 1990 2009 1924 1941 1704 1984 1876 1681
  • 22. Stalking Talking
  • 29. Stalking Talking
  • 33. Stalking Talking
  • 36. Stalking Talking
  • 37. The price tag for all this stalking?
  • 38. The price tag for all this stalking? $250.00 per new member*
  • 39. The price tag for all this stalking? $250.00 per new member* *Sheshunoff - it costs community financial institutions approximately $250-$275 to acquire a new member/customer
  • 41. The PFI myth. . . The average customer has 1.56 - 2.2 relationships with their PFI
  • 42. The PFI myth. . . The average customer has 1.56 - 2.2 relationships with their PFI Typical households have as many as 8 different financial service providers.
  • 43. The PFI myth. . . The average customer has 1.56 - 2.2 relationships with their PFI Typical households have as many as 8 different financial service providers. First year attrition rates are as high as 25%!
  • 44.
  • 45. loyal vs. satisfied
  • 46. loyal vs. satisfied
  • 47. loyal vs. satisfied
  • 48.
  • 49. Banking is an errand. I get in, I get out, no one gets hurt... ...I am satisfied.
  • 50. We asked the wrong question:
  • 51. We asked the wrong question: On a scale from 1 - 7: How satisfied are you with the credit union? Comments:
  • 52. Loyal members do three things:
  • 53. Loyal members do three things: 1. Buy more from you. (repeat business) 2. Market for you! (tell their friends/co-workers) 3. Tell you how to improve your business (“I’ve been a member since....”)
  • 54. Instead of “going after” your members let’s try listening to them.
  • 55. Instead of “going after” your members let’s try listening to them. By asking the ultimate question....
  • 56. Net Promoter asks the “ultimate” question:
  • 57. Net Promoter asks the “ultimate” question: WHY did you answer the way you did? "On a scale from 0 - 10... How likely is it that you would recommend the Credit Union to a friend, family member or colleague?"
  • 58.
  • 59. “You can’t grow a business unless you treat people so well that they come back and bring their friends.” - Fred Reichheld, The Ultimate Question
  • 60. Net Promoter Score Sheet* GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
  • 61. Net Promoter Score Sheet* GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth Detractors = 0-6 Unhappy customers trapped in a bad relationship *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
  • 62. Net Promoter Score Sheet* GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth Passives = 7-8 Satisfied but can be easily wooed by the competition Detractors = 0-6 Unhappy customers trapped in a bad relationship *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
  • 63. Net Promoter Score Sheet* GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth Promoters = 9-10 Loyal enthusiasts who keep buying and urge their friends to do the same Passives = 7-8 Satisfied but can be easily wooed by the competition Detractors = 0-6 Unhappy customers trapped in a bad relationship *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
  • 64. Net Promoter Score Sheet* GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth P - D = NPS *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
  • 65. Net Promoter Score Sheet* GOAL: protect profits by protecting our word of mouth P - D = NPS *Source: The Ultimate Question: Driving Good Profits and True Growth by Fred Reichheld
  • 66. NPS Leaders in the US Average American company sputters along at 20%
  • 67. NPS Leaders in the US USAA = 82% Average American company sputters along at 20%
  • 68. NPS Leaders in the US USAA = 82% Average American company sputters along at 20%
  • 69. NPS Leaders in the US USAA = 82% COSTCO = 79% Average American company sputters along at 20%
  • 70. NPS Leaders in the US USAA = 82% COSTCO = 79% Apple = 79% Average American company sputters along at 20%
  • 71. NPS leaders do crazy things:
  • 72. NPS leaders do crazy things: 1. Pay their people too much. 2. Fire customers. 3. Pay employees to quit. 4. Don’t try to appeal to everyone. 5. Charge the most in their category.
  • 74. COSTCO and NPS Score = 79% 45 million members. Sales per store are almost twice of nearest competitor Wal-Mart’s SAM’S CLUB Very little money spent on advertising. Low turnover and long tenure boost productivity, reduces costs.
  • 75. Business leaders in all industries are adopting Net Promoter
  • 76. Business leaders in all industries are Business leaders in all industries are adopting adopting Net Promoter Net Promoter
  • 77. The Credit Union Average SOURCE: Filene Research Institute and Satmetrix
  • 78. The Credit Union Average 54.3% SOURCE: Filene Research Institute and Satmetrix
  • 79. Credit Union Membership in the US 87500 190625 293750 396875 500000 2005 2006 2007 2008 # of New Members Credit unions were beginning to steal members from each other!
  • 81. Perception vs. vs. Performance Gap Perception Performance Gap 100% 80% Percent of Companies 60% 80% 8% Companies that Companies believe they whose 40% provide a customers superior agree experience 20% 0% Believers Achievers Source: Bain & Company
  • 82. The 8% of Achievers Vastly Outperform their Competition
  • 83. The 8% of Achievers Vastly The 8% of Achievers Vastly Outperform their Outperform their Competition Competition Average annual real revenue growth Average annual real net income growth 20% 19% 10% 9% 8% 15% 6% 10% 4% 3% 5% 2% 2% 0% 0% Non-Achievers Achievers Non-Achievers Achievers Source: Bain & Company
  • 85. Unlucky. SOURCE: Satmetrix
  • 86. The Bank Average “Banking had an average NPS of approximately 15%, with USAA leading at more than 100 points above the sector’s laggard, Citigroup.” SOURCE: Satmetrix - Spring 2009 report
  • 87. The Bank Average “Banking had an average NPS of approximately 15%, with USAA leading at more than 100 points above the sector’s laggard, Citigroup.” 15% SOURCE: Satmetrix - Spring 2009 report
  • 88. The Promoter Advantage Loyalty Economics 4000 3000 2000 1000 0 Have referred Will likely stay Promoters Detractors SOURCE: Satmetrix and Filene Research Study - 2007
  • 89. Loyalty Economics 7% And it’s FREE! 93% Detractors Promoters
  • 90. “How many friends, family members or colleagues have you referred to the Credit Union in the last 12 months?” 1,045 members responded Loyalty Economics 7% And it’s FREE! 93% Detractors Promoters 1,197 members were referred.
  • 91. Is there a correlation between NPS and growth in a company? Yes! In a 2003 study based on more than 150,000 customers, we found a very strong correlation between Net Promoter Scores and a company’s growth relative to its competitors. From the airline industry, to retail banks, to delivery services, to personal computers, firms with the best NPS demonstrated superior growth. Companies that have achieved sustainable growth over a ten year period have double the NPS of others.
  • 92. Is there a correlation between NPS and growth in a company? Yes! In a 2003 study based on more than 150,000 customers, we found a very strong correlation between Net Promoter Scores and a company’s growth relative to its competitors. From the airline industry, to retail banks, to delivery services, to personal computers, firms with the best NPS demonstrated superior growth. Companies that have achieved sustainable growth over a ten year period have double the NPS of others.
  • 93. Hope is not a strategy. That's also the penalty of expectations. Amazon became the category leader in online retailing because it set new expectations in online shopping, and it almost always meets or exceeds them; its Net Promoter Score ranking is 36 points above the median in its category. Category leaders are cultural leaders in business, sports, non-profits and government. Strategies, behaviors and some lives are modeled on category leaders. It's a perk and a responsibility. It's heady and scary. The cost of reticence is goodwill.
  • 94. “I believe most CEOs do care--at least strategically-- about having happy users, but wouldn't waste a single synapse actually thinking about specific ways to make it happen.” - Kathy Siera, Creating Passionate Users Blog.
  • 95. NPS helps you avoid bad profits.
  • 96. Bank fees growing more numerous and expensive AMY REININK Sun staff writer Published: Sunday, June 10, 2007 at 11:40 a.m. Last Modified: Sunday, June 10, 2007 at 12:00 a.m. The fees kept adding up. First, Sun State Credit Union charged Gainesville resident Karen Soesbe $2 for coming in more than four times a month. Next came the charge for not having her transaction slip ready at the drive-through window. When Soesbe was charged for not using the credit union's telephone banking system, she decided to fight back, sending an angry letter to the credit union's president and filing a formal complaint with the National Credit Union Association. "I was outraged," Soesbe said. "It's not a lot of money. I know that. But to be charged $2 just for not having your bank slip at the drive-through teller just seems wrong." In Soesbe's case, Sun State abandoned the three fees voluntarily. Sun State President and CEO Jim Woodward said the decision was based on exit interviews with members leaving the credit union, and that the move was already in the works when Soesbe complained.
  • 97. Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship. Good Profit - Bad Profit
  • 98. Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship. Good Profit - Bad Profit $50 membership fee to COSTCO with rebate at the end of the year on all your purchases.
  • 99. Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship. Good Profit - Bad Profit $50 membership fee Everything the airlines are doing to COSTCO with today. rebate at the end of Charging for: the year on all your - pillows purchases. - sodas - headsets to watch the movie - checked luggage
  • 100. Bad Profits = Profits earned at the expense of a relationship. Good Profit - Bad Profit $50 membership fee Everything the airlines are doing to COSTCO with today. rebate at the end of Charging for: the year on all your - pillows purchases. - sodas - headsets to watch the movie - checked luggage Except Southwest Airlines
  • 103. Do what you say you’re going to do.
  • 104. Do what you say you’re going to do. NPS bridges the gap between what you say you are going to do and what you are known for doing.
  • 105. www.denisewymore.com me@denisewymore.com http://denisewymore.wordpress.com denisewymore