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Key data on online engagement: platform

On platform: 62 members, 26 discussions, 127 comments

1 special initiatives: Discussion paper about trustmarks (20 comments)



   Most discussed:                                                   Most active:

Mobile payments and wallets                           36
Electronic marketplace? (App store, Android market,        Thierry           Nabeth
Amazon, ...)                                          14   Stephan           Engberg
E-commerce in the EU - so what's the issue?           9
e-Commerce and Open Data                              5    Henryk            Kulakowski
Tax harmonisation                                     4    Jeremy            Mears
Trustmarks                                            4
Key data on online engagement: twitter




Most                                       Most active
RT
Wordcloud overall discussion
Headlines from the group ”E-commerce”

Topic 1: E-commerce barriers
Challenges
• How do small e-tailers get discovered and trusted, especially cross-border? ->
  Topic 2
• How do e-tailers deal with the plethora of payment methods in Europe
• How can we make it easier to find online products?
• How do we change VAT to create a level playing field for merchants?
• Contract law is inhibiting some e-commerce sectors

Actions recommended and commitments made
• Payments – many commercial online payment aggregators (MyBank, iDeal,
  Skrill, Adyen, Wirecard, WorldPay, GlobalConnect…..and many more)
• VAT shifting from merchant to consumer domicile basis – reduces impact of
  merchant location
• Find products online - support the use of semantic meta-data that enable
  simpler, (and automated) integration of e-commerce data (eg OpenFoodFacts in
  France).
• Businesses, particularly SMEs must support the proposed European Sales Law
  (to prevent contract law inhibiting ecommerce)
Highlighted quotes


Ystats: In Eastern European B2C E-Commerce, many payments are still made in
cash, but the Eastern European market for online payments continues to grow.
Gianluigi Cuccureddu: Markets in general and Europe especially does NOT gain
from this massive concentration of power with middlemen brokers in infrastructure
taking all the profits [related to travel aggregation sites)
Rebentisch: A supply side "right to appear" corresponds to the user-centric
interest to find relevant content. It is better for the search intermediaries to serve
the users than the providers of content
Laurence: VAT and other taxes vary considerably across the EU. This frequently
impacts where e-commerce and other digital media business locate themselves.
European Blind Union: E-payments all currently present features that make them
inaccessible to people with sight loss.
ERADARtweet: It's a scandal and damaging to the European Single Market that
the majority of e-commerce cross border contracts are still failing for one reason or
another.
Gianluigi Cuccureddu: From a customer point of perspective, if a local (national)
organization can provide a good, why should they look beyond?
Headlines from the group ”E-commerce”

Topic 2: Trust and trustmarks

Challenges
• Create a stakeholder owned trust mark scheme for Europe to level the playing
  field for small retailers and increase cross-border e-commerce
• Fraudulent websites contain the most “trustmarks”
• Trustmarks to prove non-fraudulent sites, or to show level of service?
• Scepticism that trustmarks can work at all

Actions recommended and commitments made
• Many trustmark initiatives have been proposed to the EU
• Rationalisation needed – some countries have too many trustmarks (eg NL)
• Some doubt the ability of a trustmark to work
• Create a European trusted e-commerce marketplace (a defacto trust mark)
Highlighted quotes
Andrew McLelland: beware of asking online businesses to display lots of 'badges'
on their sites. Online 'real estate' is just as valuable as its counterpart in-store.
AnkaL: When I try to buy on webstores in the EU I usually put a lot of effort to find
whether the webstore is "real" or phishing.
griff (forwarding verbal comments): Amazon is a retailer AND a marketplace
owner. Some e-commerce retailers are telling me that this is unfair competition
Ystats.com: A Europe-wide mandatory online shop security accreditation system
might be the answer
tbikeev: engberg is also right in noticing that trust-mark would not change much
here (re Amazon/eBay dominance).
PolicyBloggers: while the motivations are good .. the reality may be harder ..
what if each region EU LATAM USA Japan INDIA CHINA create similar
regulations for their own regions…
EMOTA: traders need to spend more efforts than ever on satisfying consumer
expectations regarding the quality of products and services
Nabeth-thierry: Do we have anything about supporting the development of
electronic marketplace in Europe
Tonyfish: On trust - this is a bit of rabbit hole as we would love to think we can
code Trust and write the algorithm but we cannot.
Headlines from the group ”E-commerce”
Topic 3: Mobile payments – need and privacy

Challenges
• Is there a need
• Simple replacement of cards won’t work
• Most suggested schemes relay on selling user data – what about privacy?
• Smartphones are still not ubiquitous – need to work on regular phones too

Actions recommended and commitments made
• Most solutions are specific company sponsored infrastructure -> see topic 4
• Decide level of policy intervention needed, if any

Highlighted quotes
Engberg: show me just one way available for empowered citizens to pay without
they and the provider loosing data control, ie. without linking who with what to a
3rd party?
Henryk: …we should look for other, widely available technology/solutions [than
NFC]. If m-payment wants to be a service for mass-market….. Can m-payment be
as simple as phone call? In my opinion - yes it can.
Headlines from the group ”E-commerce”

Topic 4: Mobile payments - methods

Challenges
• Security
• Standards and Ubiquity
• Communicate via RF/camera/other or via mobile internet (pre-registered)
• Role of telco, bank, merchant, technology supplier (GOOG, AAPL etc)
• Payment mechanism must work across Europe (ie not just credit card linked)

Actions recommended and commitments made
• To enable cashless low value payments, reduce payments infrastructure cost
  rather than just moving it around the value chain
• Many, many suggested schemes from banks, telcos, technology
  companies, retailers.
Topic 4: Mobile payments - methods


Highlighted quotes
Mirek.kula: Several last years have been called the Year of NFC, and yet, thus
far, there is not much to celebrate. Why? Will this change? If so, how?
Nebo.d: the move to electronic payments …is running into a roadblock due to a
payment system architecture dating from the 1970’s and a cost structure that is
incompatible with very small, high volume transactions…With over 70% of cash
retail purchases being low value payments in Europe, you can see the urgency in
finding a solution to this problem
Eurosmart: Security and interoperability are key factors
Henryk: We should enable access to bank accounts for independent payment
providers…GSM network have a lot of features which can help to better secure
and simplify m-payments without additional expensive or inconvenient technology.
But not all are commercially available….. in my opinion NFC m-payment will exist
but will not dominate the market. Why? Because is competitive to cheaper
contactless cards and can't be remote.
Engberg: NFC is not a payment technology, but a low-security communication
protocol. The very idea of using proximity as authoisation is invititing to fraud.

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Ecommerce

  • 1.
  • 2. Headlines from the group ”E-commerce” Key data on online engagement: platform On platform: 62 members, 26 discussions, 127 comments 1 special initiatives: Discussion paper about trustmarks (20 comments) Most discussed: Most active: Mobile payments and wallets 36 Electronic marketplace? (App store, Android market, Thierry Nabeth Amazon, ...) 14 Stephan Engberg E-commerce in the EU - so what's the issue? 9 e-Commerce and Open Data 5 Henryk Kulakowski Tax harmonisation 4 Jeremy Mears Trustmarks 4
  • 3. Key data on online engagement: twitter Most Most active RT
  • 5. Headlines from the group ”E-commerce” Topic 1: E-commerce barriers Challenges • How do small e-tailers get discovered and trusted, especially cross-border? -> Topic 2 • How do e-tailers deal with the plethora of payment methods in Europe • How can we make it easier to find online products? • How do we change VAT to create a level playing field for merchants? • Contract law is inhibiting some e-commerce sectors Actions recommended and commitments made • Payments – many commercial online payment aggregators (MyBank, iDeal, Skrill, Adyen, Wirecard, WorldPay, GlobalConnect…..and many more) • VAT shifting from merchant to consumer domicile basis – reduces impact of merchant location • Find products online - support the use of semantic meta-data that enable simpler, (and automated) integration of e-commerce data (eg OpenFoodFacts in France). • Businesses, particularly SMEs must support the proposed European Sales Law (to prevent contract law inhibiting ecommerce)
  • 6. Highlighted quotes Ystats: In Eastern European B2C E-Commerce, many payments are still made in cash, but the Eastern European market for online payments continues to grow. Gianluigi Cuccureddu: Markets in general and Europe especially does NOT gain from this massive concentration of power with middlemen brokers in infrastructure taking all the profits [related to travel aggregation sites) Rebentisch: A supply side "right to appear" corresponds to the user-centric interest to find relevant content. It is better for the search intermediaries to serve the users than the providers of content Laurence: VAT and other taxes vary considerably across the EU. This frequently impacts where e-commerce and other digital media business locate themselves. European Blind Union: E-payments all currently present features that make them inaccessible to people with sight loss. ERADARtweet: It's a scandal and damaging to the European Single Market that the majority of e-commerce cross border contracts are still failing for one reason or another. Gianluigi Cuccureddu: From a customer point of perspective, if a local (national) organization can provide a good, why should they look beyond?
  • 7. Headlines from the group ”E-commerce” Topic 2: Trust and trustmarks Challenges • Create a stakeholder owned trust mark scheme for Europe to level the playing field for small retailers and increase cross-border e-commerce • Fraudulent websites contain the most “trustmarks” • Trustmarks to prove non-fraudulent sites, or to show level of service? • Scepticism that trustmarks can work at all Actions recommended and commitments made • Many trustmark initiatives have been proposed to the EU • Rationalisation needed – some countries have too many trustmarks (eg NL) • Some doubt the ability of a trustmark to work • Create a European trusted e-commerce marketplace (a defacto trust mark)
  • 8. Highlighted quotes Andrew McLelland: beware of asking online businesses to display lots of 'badges' on their sites. Online 'real estate' is just as valuable as its counterpart in-store. AnkaL: When I try to buy on webstores in the EU I usually put a lot of effort to find whether the webstore is "real" or phishing. griff (forwarding verbal comments): Amazon is a retailer AND a marketplace owner. Some e-commerce retailers are telling me that this is unfair competition Ystats.com: A Europe-wide mandatory online shop security accreditation system might be the answer tbikeev: engberg is also right in noticing that trust-mark would not change much here (re Amazon/eBay dominance). PolicyBloggers: while the motivations are good .. the reality may be harder .. what if each region EU LATAM USA Japan INDIA CHINA create similar regulations for their own regions… EMOTA: traders need to spend more efforts than ever on satisfying consumer expectations regarding the quality of products and services Nabeth-thierry: Do we have anything about supporting the development of electronic marketplace in Europe Tonyfish: On trust - this is a bit of rabbit hole as we would love to think we can code Trust and write the algorithm but we cannot.
  • 9. Headlines from the group ”E-commerce” Topic 3: Mobile payments – need and privacy Challenges • Is there a need • Simple replacement of cards won’t work • Most suggested schemes relay on selling user data – what about privacy? • Smartphones are still not ubiquitous – need to work on regular phones too Actions recommended and commitments made • Most solutions are specific company sponsored infrastructure -> see topic 4 • Decide level of policy intervention needed, if any Highlighted quotes Engberg: show me just one way available for empowered citizens to pay without they and the provider loosing data control, ie. without linking who with what to a 3rd party? Henryk: …we should look for other, widely available technology/solutions [than NFC]. If m-payment wants to be a service for mass-market….. Can m-payment be as simple as phone call? In my opinion - yes it can.
  • 10. Headlines from the group ”E-commerce” Topic 4: Mobile payments - methods Challenges • Security • Standards and Ubiquity • Communicate via RF/camera/other or via mobile internet (pre-registered) • Role of telco, bank, merchant, technology supplier (GOOG, AAPL etc) • Payment mechanism must work across Europe (ie not just credit card linked) Actions recommended and commitments made • To enable cashless low value payments, reduce payments infrastructure cost rather than just moving it around the value chain • Many, many suggested schemes from banks, telcos, technology companies, retailers.
  • 11. Topic 4: Mobile payments - methods Highlighted quotes Mirek.kula: Several last years have been called the Year of NFC, and yet, thus far, there is not much to celebrate. Why? Will this change? If so, how? Nebo.d: the move to electronic payments …is running into a roadblock due to a payment system architecture dating from the 1970’s and a cost structure that is incompatible with very small, high volume transactions…With over 70% of cash retail purchases being low value payments in Europe, you can see the urgency in finding a solution to this problem Eurosmart: Security and interoperability are key factors Henryk: We should enable access to bank accounts for independent payment providers…GSM network have a lot of features which can help to better secure and simplify m-payments without additional expensive or inconvenient technology. But not all are commercially available….. in my opinion NFC m-payment will exist but will not dominate the market. Why? Because is competitive to cheaper contactless cards and can't be remote. Engberg: NFC is not a payment technology, but a low-security communication protocol. The very idea of using proximity as authoisation is invititing to fraud.

Notes de l'éditeur

  1. Links to quotesYstats: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/different-payment-preferences-european-b2c-e-commerceGianluigi Cuccureddu: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/e-commerce-and-open-data-0 and http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/e-commerce-eu-so-whats-issueRebentisch: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/some-ideas-about-liability-search-enginesLaurence: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/tax-harmonisationEBU: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/accessibility-ecommerce-and-epaymentsERADARtweet: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/e-commerce-eu-so-whats-issue
  2. Links to quotesTbikeev, Griff: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/de-facto-trustmark-amazon-or-ebay-fair#comment-1752Ystats.com, policybloggers: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/cross-border-e-commerce-and-security-online-shoppingAnkaL: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/trustmarksEMOTA: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/boosting-trust-e-commerceNabeth-thierry: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/electronic-marketplace-app-store-android-market-amazonTonyfish: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/e-commerce-eu-so-whats-issue
  3. Links to quotesMirek.kula: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/rightful-role-nfc-mobile-services-and-how-get-thereNebo.d: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/low-value-payments-elephant-room-2012Eurosmart: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/security-mobile-devices-applications-and-transactionsHenryk, Engberg: http://daa.ec.europa.eu/content/mobile-payments-and-wallets