SlideShare une entreprise Scribd logo
1  sur  4
Three Things
We Learned
Raf Keustermans, CEO & co-founder, Plumbee
@raf_keustermans
1. LTV = long term retention x ARPU
A

B

D30 = 9.2%

D90 = 8.3%

D30 is not long term
LTV A: $9 vs B: 2.50

D30 = 9.1%

D90 = 0.2%
2. Payback Time > ROI (for startups)
• ROI on ad spend is (obviously) a key metric.
• But startups can go bankrupt running ad campaigns
with 300%+ ROI...

• Cash reserves required to run $200K/month ad
spend for 12 months with 10 month payback time =
$1.5M+
3. Gross Profit Margin is a thing
• Gross Profit Margin drives Net LTV
Income
Mobile revenue
Total Income
Cost of Sales
Chargebacks & Credits
Platform Fees
Hosting
IP Licensing Rev Share
Total Cost of Sales
Gross Profit

1,961,070
1,961,070

21,572
588,321
84,326
196,107
890,326
1,070,744
55%

• 10% IP/content licensing gross rev share =
10% lower Net LTV = 10% impact on
CPI/LTV arbitrage
• Can be worth it, e.g. if IP drives higher
CTR, conversion click/install, spender
conversion

• Ideally rev share after Marketing spend
(agree max marketing spend as % of gross
revenue with IP owner)

Contenu connexe

Tendances

NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법
NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법
NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법
ChangHyun Won
 
국내인디게임개발자의현실
국내인디게임개발자의현실국내인디게임개발자의현실
국내인디게임개발자의현실
Mingu Heo
 

Tendances (20)

NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법
NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법
NDC2013 - 인디게임 프로젝트 중도에 포기하지 않는 방법
 
frontend-161011205424 (1).pdf
frontend-161011205424 (1).pdffrontend-161011205424 (1).pdf
frontend-161011205424 (1).pdf
 
ゲーム産業講義2015年1月
ゲーム産業講義2015年1月ゲーム産業講義2015年1月
ゲーム産業講義2015年1月
 
Killer Design Patterns for F2P Mobile/Tablet Games
Killer Design Patterns for F2P Mobile/Tablet GamesKiller Design Patterns for F2P Mobile/Tablet Games
Killer Design Patterns for F2P Mobile/Tablet Games
 
게임제작개론 : #7 팀 역할과 게임 리소스에 대한 이해
게임제작개론 : #7 팀 역할과 게임 리소스에 대한 이해게임제작개론 : #7 팀 역할과 게임 리소스에 대한 이해
게임제작개론 : #7 팀 역할과 게임 리소스에 대한 이해
 
Effective LiveOps Strategies for F2P Games
Effective LiveOps Strategies for F2P GamesEffective LiveOps Strategies for F2P Games
Effective LiveOps Strategies for F2P Games
 
게임 시스템 디자인 시작하기
게임 시스템 디자인 시작하기게임 시스템 디자인 시작하기
게임 시스템 디자인 시작하기
 
국내인디게임개발자의현실
국내인디게임개발자의현실국내인디게임개발자의현실
국내인디게임개발자의현실
 
Designing for live ops
Designing for live opsDesigning for live ops
Designing for live ops
 
New tools and services to take your live ops to the next level
New tools and services to take your live ops to the next levelNew tools and services to take your live ops to the next level
New tools and services to take your live ops to the next level
 
GDC Talk: Lifetime Value: The long tail of Mid-Core games
GDC Talk: Lifetime Value: The long tail of Mid-Core gamesGDC Talk: Lifetime Value: The long tail of Mid-Core games
GDC Talk: Lifetime Value: The long tail of Mid-Core games
 
Building Games for the Long-Term
Building Games for the Long-TermBuilding Games for the Long-Term
Building Games for the Long-Term
 
NDC 2018 레벨 디자인 튜토리얼 Level Design Tutorial
NDC 2018 레벨 디자인 튜토리얼 Level Design TutorialNDC 2018 레벨 디자인 튜토리얼 Level Design Tutorial
NDC 2018 레벨 디자인 튜토리얼 Level Design Tutorial
 
Fps 모드의 분석(FPS MODE ANALYSIS)
Fps 모드의 분석(FPS MODE ANALYSIS)Fps 모드의 분석(FPS MODE ANALYSIS)
Fps 모드의 분석(FPS MODE ANALYSIS)
 
Basic Chemistry on Your Slide
Basic Chemistry on Your SlideBasic Chemistry on Your Slide
Basic Chemistry on Your Slide
 
Intro to liveops
Intro to liveopsIntro to liveops
Intro to liveops
 
Game monetization: Overview of monetization methods for free-to-play games
Game monetization: Overview of monetization methods for free-to-play gamesGame monetization: Overview of monetization methods for free-to-play games
Game monetization: Overview of monetization methods for free-to-play games
 
NDC 2012 이은석 - 고전게임 화이트데이 디렉터 포스트모템
NDC 2012 이은석 - 고전게임 화이트데이 디렉터 포스트모템NDC 2012 이은석 - 고전게임 화이트데이 디렉터 포스트모템
NDC 2012 이은석 - 고전게임 화이트데이 디렉터 포스트모템
 
Soft Launch Planning and Management | Dylan Tredrea
Soft Launch Planning and Management | Dylan TredreaSoft Launch Planning and Management | Dylan Tredrea
Soft Launch Planning and Management | Dylan Tredrea
 
Game design at Playrix
Game design at PlayrixGame design at Playrix
Game design at Playrix
 

En vedette

Customer lifetime value ppttt
Customer lifetime value pptttCustomer lifetime value ppttt
Customer lifetime value ppttt
Jaswinder Singh
 

En vedette (9)

Jan Miczaika, COO, Wooga
Jan Miczaika, COO, WoogaJan Miczaika, COO, Wooga
Jan Miczaika, COO, Wooga
 
Estudio34 InAppEvent - How to Reach Your App Promotion KPIs with Google
Estudio34 InAppEvent - How to Reach Your App Promotion KPIs with GoogleEstudio34 InAppEvent - How to Reach Your App Promotion KPIs with Google
Estudio34 InAppEvent - How to Reach Your App Promotion KPIs with Google
 
Eric Seufert, GDC 2014: Profitably launching Jelly Splash to #1, a marketing ...
Eric Seufert, GDC 2014: Profitably launching Jelly Splash to #1, a marketing ...Eric Seufert, GDC 2014: Profitably launching Jelly Splash to #1, a marketing ...
Eric Seufert, GDC 2014: Profitably launching Jelly Splash to #1, a marketing ...
 
Metrics How To: Ratio of Customer Lifetime Value to Customer Acquisition Cost
Metrics How To: Ratio of Customer Lifetime Value to Customer Acquisition CostMetrics How To: Ratio of Customer Lifetime Value to Customer Acquisition Cost
Metrics How To: Ratio of Customer Lifetime Value to Customer Acquisition Cost
 
Two Methods for Modeling LTV with a Spreadsheet
Two Methods for Modeling LTV with a SpreadsheetTwo Methods for Modeling LTV with a Spreadsheet
Two Methods for Modeling LTV with a Spreadsheet
 
Customer lifetime value ppttt
Customer lifetime value pptttCustomer lifetime value ppttt
Customer lifetime value ppttt
 
Customer Acquisition Cost and Lifetime Value (CAC & LTV)
Customer Acquisition Cost and Lifetime Value (CAC & LTV)Customer Acquisition Cost and Lifetime Value (CAC & LTV)
Customer Acquisition Cost and Lifetime Value (CAC & LTV)
 
eStudio 34 InAppEvent - Billy Mobile User Acquisition and Monetization
eStudio 34 InAppEvent - Billy Mobile User Acquisition and MonetizationeStudio 34 InAppEvent - Billy Mobile User Acquisition and Monetization
eStudio 34 InAppEvent - Billy Mobile User Acquisition and Monetization
 
A step by-step guide to calculating customer lifetime value
A step by-step guide to calculating customer lifetime valueA step by-step guide to calculating customer lifetime value
A step by-step guide to calculating customer lifetime value
 

Similaire à CPI > LTV Raf

Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...
Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...
Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...
SlideTeam
 
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assignSbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
mwania
 
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assignSbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
mwania
 
MyVideo Talk-Internet Marketing
MyVideo Talk-Internet MarketingMyVideo Talk-Internet Marketing
MyVideo Talk-Internet Marketing
mandakinee
 
WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2
WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2
WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2
David Beale
 
Business plan computer_repair
Business plan computer_repairBusiness plan computer_repair
Business plan computer_repair
mijan1977
 
Presentation- Intel Corp Financial Valuation
Presentation- Intel Corp Financial ValuationPresentation- Intel Corp Financial Valuation
Presentation- Intel Corp Financial Valuation
Thao (Mina) Le
 

Similaire à CPI > LTV Raf (20)

Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...
Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...
Fixed Capital Evaluation To Improve Business Growth Powerpoint Presentation S...
 
Introducing financial analysis
Introducing financial analysisIntroducing financial analysis
Introducing financial analysis
 
IP on top of Microsoft Dynamics CRM
IP on top of Microsoft Dynamics CRMIP on top of Microsoft Dynamics CRM
IP on top of Microsoft Dynamics CRM
 
How to Build a Great Cloud/SaaS Business Case Analysis for Technology Investment
How to Build a Great Cloud/SaaS Business Case Analysis for Technology InvestmentHow to Build a Great Cloud/SaaS Business Case Analysis for Technology Investment
How to Build a Great Cloud/SaaS Business Case Analysis for Technology Investment
 
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assignSbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
 
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assignSbc 215 financial_management_assign
Sbc 215 financial_management_assign
 
Risk & capital budgeting
Risk & capital  budgetingRisk & capital  budgeting
Risk & capital budgeting
 
MyVideo Talk-Internet Marketing
MyVideo Talk-Internet MarketingMyVideo Talk-Internet Marketing
MyVideo Talk-Internet Marketing
 
Havells india
Havells indiaHavells india
Havells india
 
Ppt 1234842668988614 1
Ppt 1234842668988614 1Ppt 1234842668988614 1
Ppt 1234842668988614 1
 
SaaS Ec
SaaS EcSaaS Ec
SaaS Ec
 
WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2
WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2
WARC Direct Marketing is Dead 2
 
Business plan computer_repair
Business plan computer_repairBusiness plan computer_repair
Business plan computer_repair
 
Business plan computer_repair
Business plan computer_repairBusiness plan computer_repair
Business plan computer_repair
 
Offshore Team
Offshore TeamOffshore Team
Offshore Team
 
Presentation- Intel Corp Financial Valuation
Presentation- Intel Corp Financial ValuationPresentation- Intel Corp Financial Valuation
Presentation- Intel Corp Financial Valuation
 
digat3
digat3digat3
digat3
 
Making the business case for your intranet
Making the business case for your intranetMaking the business case for your intranet
Making the business case for your intranet
 
Laying Down the Groundwork for Financial Stability
Laying Down the Groundwork for Financial StabilityLaying Down the Groundwork for Financial Stability
Laying Down the Groundwork for Financial Stability
 
Keross Partnership Program
Keross Partnership ProgramKeross Partnership Program
Keross Partnership Program
 

Dernier

Jual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan Cytotec
Jual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan CytotecJual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan Cytotec
Jual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan Cytotec
ZurliaSoop
 
Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...
Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...
Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...
daisycvs
 
Al Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al Mizhar
Al Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al MizharAl Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al Mizhar
Al Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al Mizhar
allensay1
 
The Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai Kuwait
The Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai KuwaitThe Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai Kuwait
The Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai Kuwait
daisycvs
 

Dernier (20)

Falcon Invoice Discounting: Tailored Financial Wings
Falcon Invoice Discounting: Tailored Financial WingsFalcon Invoice Discounting: Tailored Financial Wings
Falcon Invoice Discounting: Tailored Financial Wings
 
Uneak White's Personal Brand Exploration Presentation
Uneak White's Personal Brand Exploration PresentationUneak White's Personal Brand Exploration Presentation
Uneak White's Personal Brand Exploration Presentation
 
Paradip CALL GIRL❤7091819311❤CALL GIRLS IN ESCORT SERVICE WE ARE PROVIDING
Paradip CALL GIRL❤7091819311❤CALL GIRLS IN ESCORT SERVICE WE ARE PROVIDINGParadip CALL GIRL❤7091819311❤CALL GIRLS IN ESCORT SERVICE WE ARE PROVIDING
Paradip CALL GIRL❤7091819311❤CALL GIRLS IN ESCORT SERVICE WE ARE PROVIDING
 
Lundin Gold - Q1 2024 Conference Call Presentation (Revised)
Lundin Gold - Q1 2024 Conference Call Presentation (Revised)Lundin Gold - Q1 2024 Conference Call Presentation (Revised)
Lundin Gold - Q1 2024 Conference Call Presentation (Revised)
 
Jual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan Cytotec
Jual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan CytotecJual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan Cytotec
Jual Obat Aborsi ( Asli No.1 ) 085657271886 Obat Penggugur Kandungan Cytotec
 
Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...
Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...
Quick Doctor In Kuwait +2773`7758`557 Kuwait Doha Qatar Dubai Abu Dhabi Sharj...
 
Falcon Invoice Discounting: The best investment platform in india for investors
Falcon Invoice Discounting: The best investment platform in india for investorsFalcon Invoice Discounting: The best investment platform in india for investors
Falcon Invoice Discounting: The best investment platform in india for investors
 
SEO Case Study: How I Increased SEO Traffic & Ranking by 50-60% in 6 Months
SEO Case Study: How I Increased SEO Traffic & Ranking by 50-60%  in 6 MonthsSEO Case Study: How I Increased SEO Traffic & Ranking by 50-60%  in 6 Months
SEO Case Study: How I Increased SEO Traffic & Ranking by 50-60% in 6 Months
 
Marel Q1 2024 Investor Presentation from May 8, 2024
Marel Q1 2024 Investor Presentation from May 8, 2024Marel Q1 2024 Investor Presentation from May 8, 2024
Marel Q1 2024 Investor Presentation from May 8, 2024
 
CROSS CULTURAL NEGOTIATION BY PANMISEM NS
CROSS CULTURAL NEGOTIATION BY PANMISEM NSCROSS CULTURAL NEGOTIATION BY PANMISEM NS
CROSS CULTURAL NEGOTIATION BY PANMISEM NS
 
Horngren’s Cost Accounting A Managerial Emphasis, Canadian 9th edition soluti...
Horngren’s Cost Accounting A Managerial Emphasis, Canadian 9th edition soluti...Horngren’s Cost Accounting A Managerial Emphasis, Canadian 9th edition soluti...
Horngren’s Cost Accounting A Managerial Emphasis, Canadian 9th edition soluti...
 
Rice Manufacturers in India | Shree Krishna Exports
Rice Manufacturers in India | Shree Krishna ExportsRice Manufacturers in India | Shree Krishna Exports
Rice Manufacturers in India | Shree Krishna Exports
 
How to Get Started in Social Media for Art League City
How to Get Started in Social Media for Art League CityHow to Get Started in Social Media for Art League City
How to Get Started in Social Media for Art League City
 
Falcon Invoice Discounting: Empowering Your Business Growth
Falcon Invoice Discounting: Empowering Your Business GrowthFalcon Invoice Discounting: Empowering Your Business Growth
Falcon Invoice Discounting: Empowering Your Business Growth
 
Phases of Negotiation .pptx
 Phases of Negotiation .pptx Phases of Negotiation .pptx
Phases of Negotiation .pptx
 
joint cost.pptx COST ACCOUNTING Sixteenth Edition ...
joint cost.pptx  COST ACCOUNTING  Sixteenth Edition                          ...joint cost.pptx  COST ACCOUNTING  Sixteenth Edition                          ...
joint cost.pptx COST ACCOUNTING Sixteenth Edition ...
 
Al Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al Mizhar
Al Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al MizharAl Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al Mizhar
Al Mizhar Dubai Escorts +971561403006 Escorts Service In Al Mizhar
 
Buy Verified TransferWise Accounts From Seosmmearth
Buy Verified TransferWise Accounts From SeosmmearthBuy Verified TransferWise Accounts From Seosmmearth
Buy Verified TransferWise Accounts From Seosmmearth
 
The Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai Kuwait
The Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai KuwaitThe Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai Kuwait
The Abortion pills for sale in Qatar@Doha [+27737758557] []Deira Dubai Kuwait
 
TVB_The Vietnam Believer Newsletter_May 6th, 2024_ENVol. 006.pdf
TVB_The Vietnam Believer Newsletter_May 6th, 2024_ENVol. 006.pdfTVB_The Vietnam Believer Newsletter_May 6th, 2024_ENVol. 006.pdf
TVB_The Vietnam Believer Newsletter_May 6th, 2024_ENVol. 006.pdf
 

CPI > LTV Raf

  • 1. Three Things We Learned Raf Keustermans, CEO & co-founder, Plumbee @raf_keustermans
  • 2. 1. LTV = long term retention x ARPU A B D30 = 9.2% D90 = 8.3% D30 is not long term LTV A: $9 vs B: 2.50 D30 = 9.1% D90 = 0.2%
  • 3. 2. Payback Time > ROI (for startups) • ROI on ad spend is (obviously) a key metric. • But startups can go bankrupt running ad campaigns with 300%+ ROI... • Cash reserves required to run $200K/month ad spend for 12 months with 10 month payback time = $1.5M+
  • 4. 3. Gross Profit Margin is a thing • Gross Profit Margin drives Net LTV Income Mobile revenue Total Income Cost of Sales Chargebacks & Credits Platform Fees Hosting IP Licensing Rev Share Total Cost of Sales Gross Profit 1,961,070 1,961,070 21,572 588,321 84,326 196,107 890,326 1,070,744 55% • 10% IP/content licensing gross rev share = 10% lower Net LTV = 10% impact on CPI/LTV arbitrage • Can be worth it, e.g. if IP drives higher CTR, conversion click/install, spender conversion • Ideally rev share after Marketing spend (agree max marketing spend as % of gross revenue with IP owner)