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CVS for MRCPCH Clinical
BY
DR  MohammedAyad
MRCPCH
General rules
The aim of this presentation is how to interpret the signs you
have gathered from your examination .and not how
to examine or to do a full CVS examination .
I will not talk here about how to examine a case in CVS station
as this is easily done by watching the videos of clinical
examination which are on the youtube .
But I strongly recommend this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq-pc0Ty2n4
CVS short case scheme
This scheme has 6 main questions so as to
reach a diagnosis or at least a DD
1- syndromic or not ?
2- water hammer pulse or not ?
3- cyanotic or not ?
4- carotid or suprasternal thrills or not?
5- scars or not ?
6- auscultation findings..
1-Syndromic or not
Common syndromes in CVS station
1- TS ….. COA , rare AS , AR
2- DOWN $ …. AVSD or rare VSD ..
3- NOONAN $ … PS..
4- William’s $ … AS
5- MPS …. AR or MR..
2-Water hammer pulse or Not?
Causes of WHP in the exam are AR and rarely
other causes as anemia..
If there is a WHP what shall I do ?
1- complete your examination as usual .
2- these findings increase the possibility of AR
Head nodding – no cyanosis – no clubbing –
hyperdynamic apex – lt middle sternal border
diastolic murmur ..
3- these signs exclude AR
Cyanosis – scars – systolic murmurs ..
4- if your findings go with AR ask the examiner
to
•Auscultate the femoral arteries
3-Cyanosis or Not ?
Cases of central cyanosis in the exam
1- cyanotic CHD mainly TOF..
2- Eisenmenger syndrome ..
TOFEISENMENGER $
Usually with a scarUsually no scars
Usually with murmurUsually no murmur
S2 usually singleS2 is very loud
4-Carotid thrill or No?
AS is the only case in the exam with carotid
thrill and this diagnosis is augmented by the
ejection systolic murmur over A1 ..
AS rarely comes in the exam with no thrill but
with murmur ..
My exam case was AS with faint thrill ..
5-Scars or No scars
1- median sternotomy
Usually complex CHD ..
but also may be used for correction of VSD in
Egypt ( my mock exam case ) ..
3-Rt lateral
thoracotomy
2-Lt lateral
thoracotomy
TOF repairCOA correction
PDA ligation
PA banding
6-Auscultation findings
You should be systematic
1- localize the apex
2- auscultation orders
Apex then LLSB , then A2 then P then A1 then
axillae , neck and back
3- you should comment on
Heart sounds then murmurs ( full comment )
then additional sounds
Common Heart murmurs in the exam
DIASTOLICWITH
CYANOSIS
SYSTOLIC
ARTOFASD
VSD
PS
AS
MR
DD of common CVS murmurs
At APEX
A1
AS with ejection systolic murmur radiating to the
neck ..
Take care of William’s $
MSMR
DIASTOLIC
LOCALIZED
SYSTOLIC
RADIATING TO AXILLA
ACCENTUATED S1WEAK S1
LSB
P area
ASD and PS as above
Special situation
Lt lateral thoracotomy + DEXTROCARDIA
This would be
KARTAGNER $
NB .. NEVER to miss DEXTROCARDIA
SYNDROMES
You should offer to search for other signs of the
syndrome
How to differentiate
1- systolic VS diastolic murmur
PULSE
2- Ejection VS pan SYSTOLIC MURMURS
According to maximum intensity
ES usually at P and A area and never at apex ..
PAN systolic usually at APEX and LSB and never at A or P
areas
3- in AS
You should examine the femoral puLse to exclude COA ..
IMPORTANT discussion points
1- signs of moderate to large VSD
Soft murmur
Murmur of functional MS
Cardiomegally
Plethora
Eisenmenger $
2- indications of interventions in PS
Pressure gradient across the valve > 40 ..
RV Pressure > 60 mmHg..
3- complications of TOF
STROKE
Cyanotic spells
4- management of cyanotic spells in TOF
Squatting position
O2
Morphia
BB
5- prophylaxis against IE
Many debates but this is according to NICE
guidelines
6- NEVER to miss Long acting Penicillin in
management of rheumatic heart disease ..
7- AS
Needs restriction of activities in most cases ..
Cvs for mrcpch clinical

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Cvs for mrcpch clinical

  • 1. CVS for MRCPCH Clinical BY DR MohammedAyad MRCPCH
  • 2. General rules The aim of this presentation is how to interpret the signs you have gathered from your examination .and not how to examine or to do a full CVS examination . I will not talk here about how to examine a case in CVS station as this is easily done by watching the videos of clinical examination which are on the youtube . But I strongly recommend this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq-pc0Ty2n4
  • 3. CVS short case scheme This scheme has 6 main questions so as to reach a diagnosis or at least a DD 1- syndromic or not ? 2- water hammer pulse or not ? 3- cyanotic or not ? 4- carotid or suprasternal thrills or not? 5- scars or not ? 6- auscultation findings..
  • 4. 1-Syndromic or not Common syndromes in CVS station 1- TS ….. COA , rare AS , AR 2- DOWN $ …. AVSD or rare VSD .. 3- NOONAN $ … PS.. 4- William’s $ … AS 5- MPS …. AR or MR..
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  • 6. 2-Water hammer pulse or Not? Causes of WHP in the exam are AR and rarely other causes as anemia.. If there is a WHP what shall I do ? 1- complete your examination as usual . 2- these findings increase the possibility of AR Head nodding – no cyanosis – no clubbing – hyperdynamic apex – lt middle sternal border diastolic murmur ..
  • 7. 3- these signs exclude AR Cyanosis – scars – systolic murmurs .. 4- if your findings go with AR ask the examiner to •Auscultate the femoral arteries
  • 8. 3-Cyanosis or Not ? Cases of central cyanosis in the exam 1- cyanotic CHD mainly TOF.. 2- Eisenmenger syndrome .. TOFEISENMENGER $ Usually with a scarUsually no scars Usually with murmurUsually no murmur S2 usually singleS2 is very loud
  • 9. 4-Carotid thrill or No? AS is the only case in the exam with carotid thrill and this diagnosis is augmented by the ejection systolic murmur over A1 .. AS rarely comes in the exam with no thrill but with murmur .. My exam case was AS with faint thrill ..
  • 10. 5-Scars or No scars 1- median sternotomy Usually complex CHD .. but also may be used for correction of VSD in Egypt ( my mock exam case ) .. 3-Rt lateral thoracotomy 2-Lt lateral thoracotomy TOF repairCOA correction PDA ligation PA banding
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  • 12. 6-Auscultation findings You should be systematic 1- localize the apex 2- auscultation orders Apex then LLSB , then A2 then P then A1 then axillae , neck and back 3- you should comment on Heart sounds then murmurs ( full comment ) then additional sounds
  • 13. Common Heart murmurs in the exam DIASTOLICWITH CYANOSIS SYSTOLIC ARTOFASD VSD PS AS MR
  • 14. DD of common CVS murmurs At APEX A1 AS with ejection systolic murmur radiating to the neck .. Take care of William’s $ MSMR DIASTOLIC LOCALIZED SYSTOLIC RADIATING TO AXILLA ACCENTUATED S1WEAK S1
  • 15. LSB P area ASD and PS as above
  • 16. Special situation Lt lateral thoracotomy + DEXTROCARDIA This would be KARTAGNER $ NB .. NEVER to miss DEXTROCARDIA SYNDROMES You should offer to search for other signs of the syndrome
  • 17. How to differentiate 1- systolic VS diastolic murmur PULSE 2- Ejection VS pan SYSTOLIC MURMURS According to maximum intensity ES usually at P and A area and never at apex .. PAN systolic usually at APEX and LSB and never at A or P areas 3- in AS You should examine the femoral puLse to exclude COA ..
  • 18. IMPORTANT discussion points 1- signs of moderate to large VSD Soft murmur Murmur of functional MS Cardiomegally Plethora Eisenmenger $ 2- indications of interventions in PS Pressure gradient across the valve > 40 .. RV Pressure > 60 mmHg..
  • 19. 3- complications of TOF STROKE Cyanotic spells 4- management of cyanotic spells in TOF Squatting position O2 Morphia BB
  • 20. 5- prophylaxis against IE Many debates but this is according to NICE guidelines
  • 21. 6- NEVER to miss Long acting Penicillin in management of rheumatic heart disease .. 7- AS Needs restriction of activities in most cases ..