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Who killed Web Warrior Steve Kangas? http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/kang-ev0.html

Evidence of Kangas' murder.

Who killed Steve Kangas?

Case overview
Steve Kangas was found dead on the 39th floor of his enemy's doorstep at 11:30 PM on
February 8 1999. In the bathroom of the offices of Richard Mellon Scaife, 2000 miles from
home, -- in Pittsburgh PA. Shot (twice?) in the head. Due to obstructions of justice, local
police investigating the wrong circumstances quickly ruled it a suicide. There are over
1000 heated Usenet posts on this topic, dated from eleven days after his death. How did he
die?
It seems much too messy for a pre-meditated hit. And too quiet for a political
suicide stunt. And his death was far outside the depressed and paralyzed suicidal
person's profile -- on a long trip? -- it's just not done. Suicide is normally done in, or close to
the rut of daily life. Suicide counselors often recommend; "Take a long trip, and now! Break
out!" It fits just right for a scuffle or the flared temper of a cold and mean man who owns the
town and a small private army of "security". Of course, anything is possible, suicide is too.
But what fits best?. Where does logic and reason lead us if we toss aside the preconceptions
that have been skillfully laid for us from the very first day? We shall explore one range of
possibilities that one path takes us. I say "we" in part because this path is evolving quickly
even now among the political newsgroups, in a huge battle between liberals and
neo-conservatives. It is now mid May, 1999.
What is the entrance to this path we will follow?
1) It's based on the fact that Scaife and/or his employees had fouled the police
investigation within hours to suggest a "closed case" random suicide by
concealing or withholding critical information.
2) It's also based on the fact that Scaife's Tribune-Review tabloid attack articles
were so unfactual, and such an obvious smear that ALL information from them
has been rejected.

3) It's based on the assumption that there was a real reason for the Scaife
tabloid's news black-out, the eventual risky lies, the Kangas smear, Scaife's

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nation-wide investigation, and the obstructions of justice. That is; we assume
that these were not merely the frivolous ravings of a paranoid mean-spirited
man, -- nor a mere haphazard coincidence -- as the police and mainstream press
seems to have assumed as the only realistic premise. Even if Scaife is a
paranoid mean-spirited man, this is hardly a rational defense.
If we establish those assumptions, only a few possibilities remain. I intend to establish
them as reasonable and realistic assumptional foundations that no complete investigation
should ignore.

It seems that if not for Usenet/Internet, the police would have long ago closed the case on a
"random suicide by a random out-of-state drifter." In fact, that's what they quickly
concluded within hours, and that conclusion stuck, it became an assumption unchallenged by
anyone outside of Team Scaife for the next five weeks.
But, Scaife's cover-up and his news black-out of his relationship with Steve Kangas was
revealed by the boiling of dozens of ever angrier netizens in the political debate newsgroups
of Usenet, and the sharp-eyed police spotted it on the front page of the Pittsburgh newspaper,
the Post-Gazette.

But the cover-up bought Scaife time. The police, unaware of the Scaife-Kangas connection
never made a criminal investigation. The Pittsburg Police did not request the Las Vegas
Police to search Kangas's home. During all this time Scaife had sent a private investigator
traveling the country. Scaife's employee entered and searched Steve's home and smeared
Steve's name to witnesses long in advance of any police investigation. If Steve had any
material worth being killed for, the police have little chance of ever finding it now.
Police now claim the investigation has been widened to include Scaife. The same friendly
police department that has been routinely stationed in front of the billionaire's home
providing him with "security" for decades.
However exposed, Scaife's cover-up did succeed for five weeks, it's been cleaned up, and the
body cremated. And Steve's name has been smeared with womanizing, pornography, theft,
drunkenness plus a murder attempt by Scaife's famous dirt-manufacturing propaganda mill.
In fact, despite the fact that Team Scaife's cover-ups, meddling and steering of the evidence
from the very first hours to insure a suicide verdict have recently come to light, the press as
of mid-May still continues to unhesitatingly assume suicide.
This is not a banner most people would care to fight under. The squeamish, the gentle, the
"reputable" need not apply, nor did they. While smearing the enemy is a common tactic, it's
just not polite. Even if nobody really believes that garbage, the knight in shining armor has
been successfully destroyed, tainted.

That's the power of first-information, of first-assumption. Perhaps Team Scaife has learned a
few tricks of mind bending over the last three decades? It's what they do. High-dollar
"spin" is their claim to fame. Underestimating that power might be an error.

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"To truly know a man, learn what he takes for granted."

The players:
Steve Kangas.

Ex army intelligence, a Doctoral Candidate at UC: Santa
Cruz in economics and political studies. His book was
almost completed, and was working with a publisher.
Once president of the local chess club in Santa Cruz for
several years. Net presence: 1600 Usenet posts found on
DejaNews.com, a double award winning political Web site
with over 300 html pages. His most popular page was on
the Great Depression: 75,000 hits. The Web site was also
a "one-stop-shop", -- an armory -- of liberal oriented
arguments, facts, charts and tables to be used in debates
against popular neo-conservative myths. (Yet while many
liberals blame the great recession of '82-'83 on Reagan,
Steve Kangas argued strongly that Reagan had nothing to
do with it.) Above all, Steve Kangas was a truth-seeker.
See his AboutMe.html.

In the jungle of Usenet political debates he was known for his calm reasonable arguments
and facts, even when outrageously provoked. Few could touch him, and even now the
rabidly attacking neo-conservative vultures on Usenet cannot present a credible, reasonable
argument against his undefended Web site. "I don't like it", is the sum of their arguments
before resorting to the ad hominem fallacy.
I've experienced a Web Warrior's death before, we knew the the dreaded death dance of the
mean-spirited was coming, we try to get through it as best we can, but I think everybody
feels dirtied by it, and by who we have to associate with. I'd like to thank those who
manage to stick with it, and apologize to Steve's loved ones for not always meeting Steve's
high standards in this mess.

Richard Mellon Scaife.

Grand master of propaganda. Bored billionaire. Many consider
him to be the hub of Hillary Clinton's "vast right wing
conspiracy." He's largely responsible for the "Vince Foster
murder conspiracy theory." Some even say Ken Starr was his
toady.

MUCH more, for example,
Quoting TIME MAGAZINE, 21-FEB-99

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New Rules Of The Road
* ...outsiders and scandal prospectors of every kind,
* from the anti-Clinton tycoon Richard Mellon Scaife
* to the freelance spider Lucianne Goldberg
* and the Jupiter of sleaze, Larry Flynt. "There's a
* cottage industry of digging up dirt and slinging
* mud," says Kyle McSlarrow, chairman of Quayle
* 2000.

End quote

Quoting TIME MAGAZINE, 10-FEB-99:
Crazy and In Charge
*Brilliant tycoons have had a
*tendency to get eccentric, or worse

*...acute that he lived out his later years in
*double-insulated, soundproof rooms. As for Scaife,
*he spent some of his Mellon family megabucks
*(Alcoa, Mellon Bank) to buy a suburban newspaper,
*give it a Steel City moniker and publish an
*unending string of kooky conspiracy theories
*centered on the Clintons.

End quote

So Scaife and his tabloid have a reputation as dirt-slingers and known for kooky conspiracy
theories. According to the May 3 Washington Post, Scaife "has given
at least $340 million to fund a `war of ideas' against American
liberalism." That is, he ﬁnances propaganda and propaganda mills.
He owns the Greensburg Pa. Tribune Review tabloid, home of the
Vince Foster murder conspiracy. According to the Washington Post,
Newsweek, and other publications, Yale expelled Scaife for drunken
brawling and breaking the legs of a classmate with a beer keg -- he is
known to be a petty bully, to hold a grudge, to assume everybody
wants to steal from him, and either you are for him, or you are his
enemy. Most people who know him don't think he's particularly
bright. And believe it or not, according to his ex-employees, he's an
obsessively cheap bastard too, such as in one case, he personally
rejected laundry and valet expenses for an employee conducting
Scaife's business while traveling in Vietnam.
Mean 2, adj; 1. inferior in grade, quality or character.
2. low in station rank or dignity. ...5. small minded
or ignoble. 6. Stingy. 7. Offensive or selfish.
--Syn. common, plebeian, petty, squalid, contemptible,
low, base, vile, coarseness, vulgarity, cowardice,
moral depravity, disgusting foulness, niggardly.
--Ant. superior, exalted, important, generous, liberal.

See the TIME archives for much more about Scaife at

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http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/ or,
http://search.newsweek.com/
keyword: Scaife.
Or my pertinent summery and extractions from the May 3 '99 Washington Post front page article on
Scaife, his mean streaks, history, and personality.
Steve Kangas said much of the same, and more about Scaife at:
http://www.scruz.net/~kangaroo/L-clintonrightwingconspiracy.html
and Scaife is also mentioned on one other of Steve's 300 html pages there, and they are linked.
See also SCAIFE-O-RAMA!! at: http://members.aol.com/fszamazon/scaife3.htm

Rex Armistead

Armistead among other things is the famous private investigator used by Scaife to dig up dirt
on President Clinton and Steve Kangas. He was paid $250,000 for one job. Rex Armistead
was aided by Scaife's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporter Richard Gazarik and Steve's
grieving parents eager for any information to fill the terrible vacuum. His mother now
seems to regret being used that way. The Tribune-Review published some of the sleaziest
dirt jobs you will find in any tabloid -- against Kangas. Below, you will see how one witness
(Steve's mom) was mysteriously manipulated into telling lies about her son. Propaganda and
mind bending. It's what they do.

Robert Esh

Steve's father, Robert Esh seems to be in the Armistead-Scaife camp. Yet he calls himself a
conservative Christian. Robert Esh said; "It wasn't that we were at odds with each other or
fighting, but that he'd kept some distance because his belief system was different than ours."
[cough] Steve Kangas changed his last name to his mother's maiden name.
Even in death, Robert Esh seems to be trying to control his son's mind. He attempted to
cancel Steve's Web page because he disagrees with it. And as of mid April, Esh is
attempting to demand that mirror sites of his son's include a 2-1/2 page letter of his;
"explaining" things and criticizing his son's politics while cheapening Steve's beliefs. It is
seemingly without irony that he signs that statement "The father of a much-loved Prodigal
Son that never came home." Mr. Esh has been telling people not to "bother" his former wife
and Steve Kangas' mother, Jan Lankheet, he wants her out of the loop. (Yet it appears he
does not have executorship of Steve's estate(??))

Jan Lankheet

"He was a happy guy. He had plans for this summer," said his mother, Jan Lankheet, who
lives in Michigan and whose Christmas card inviting her son to visit last year was in his
knapsack when he was found dead. When informed that Steve's Web friends had
constructed six mirror sites of Steve's Web site, and one had been paying his bills there, she
was pleased: "There's something to be said for that. Now that he's dead, may his work live

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on after him."

Don Adams

Don Adams and his associate are the pivotal eye-witnesses in this case. It was reported that
Adams is a building engineer and he found Steve Kangas in dire need of help. When he
returned Kangas was mortally wounded. If Don Adams actually is the building engineer,
and not related to Scaife "security," and actually was making routine checks when he found
Kangas, and was telling the truth, this (alone??) fixes Kangas' time of death, and drastically
limits the possible scenarios. But as we will see, there are several major discrepancies here,
and it just smells fishy. In this case, I have come to trust my nose. A lie detector test would
resolve most of the obvious questions this case presents.

The FBI

The FBI's jurisdiction includes any case involving a reasonable possibility of interstate
transportation in a crime, or if local authorities may be biased or incompetent.
There is a historically cozy relationship between the Mellon/Scaife dynasty and the police,
and indeed, with Pittsburgh. Also, the local police did investigate the wrong case for over
a month.

So this is FBI's jurisdiction, but the FBI doesn't go "cruising for crime," a concerned
principal in this case must "file a formal complaint." Nobody has.

The Internet

Web Warrior killed.
Cover-up and obstruction of justice predicted, detected and exposed.
An anonymous truth-seeker is paying to keep his site open, and there are several mirror sites
now in place.
It's not just zeros and ones anymore.

to top

First an overview, from Usenet. Keep in mind, this is largely how we saw it at the time. A
few more facts and corrections keep coming to light, ever confirming our predictions.

Subject: Re: Who killed Web Warrior Steve Kangas?

overview, from Usenet:

Subject: Re: Who killed Web Warrior Steve Kangas?
From: see.my.sig@theBeach.edu (Doug Bashford)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:55:13 GMT

on Mon, 26 Apr 1999 (Flaagg) wrote:

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about: Re: Who killed Web Warrior Steve Kangas?

>I R A Aggie writes:
>>Why hasn't the Clinton News Network would have been
>>blaring this from the rooftops for months?

Bashford:
I don't know them. But some guesses? Perhaps they just
don't know about it. It's received a television piece in
L.A., and about 6 newspaper articles across the nation,
mostly right-wing, not much publicity.

But perhaps more importantly, when I said Scaife was a
Grand master of propaganda and information-bending, that was
not hyperbole. I'm in awe of the man. His cover-up
and news black-out lasted over a month. By then the police
had concluded suicide and the body cremated. But more
importantly, Scaife sent Rex Armistead P.I., and one of the
reporters from his tabloid out to smear Steve Kangas during
all this time.
Not a pretty picture. Armistead is the famous dirt-digger
used against Clinton, and various multi-million dollar covert
operations. Against Steve Kangas, Web Warrior!???

[snip]

Below is part of the team sent to smear Kangas under the
guise of an "investigation":

22-Mar-99 excerpt from Salon magazine:
http://www.salonmagazine.com/news/1998/04/cov_20news.html

** Starr deputy met with
** Scaife private investigator

** LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- Deputy
** Whitewater independent
** counsel W. Hickman
** Ewing Jr. has quietly met several times during the
** course of his investigation with a private eye
** employed by conservative philanthropist
** Richard Mellon Scaife, according to two federal law
** enforcement sources. One Whitewater investigator
...
** official files of the independent counsel. The law
** enforcement official called the meetings between
** Ewing, who is Starr's chief deputy in Little Rock,
** and the private investigator, Rex Armistead, "either
** the worst case of judgment or something worse."

** Armistead, a former top Mississippi law enforcement
** official, was paid $250,000 by the Arkansas Project,
** a covert, $2.4 million operation funded by Scaife,
** to investigate and discredit President Clinton,
** according to sources and documents.
....

Scaife's tabloid's (Tribune Review) hit-piece was ugly.

** , to investigate and discredit President Clinton

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For example, that Kangas was found with a copy of
Hitler's Mein Kampf when he was found. It was in all the
news. Steve's Web friends never believed it. Just a few days
ago, it turns up that Steve's very own mother was the source
of that lie. Now she just doesn't know where she got that
idea, and she's angry. Well, Armistead took both Steve's
mourning parents under his wing. Dad is seemingly still
Rex Armistead's toady.

Is that brilliant, or what?

At any rate, it's all about propaganda and epistemology.
Steve can no longer be seen as a knight in shinning armor.
Scaife painted him as a womanizing drunk loser thief Nazi.
Limbaugh had a field day with it. Who will carry that
banner into battle? It's not polite.

>Because nobody cares?
>Just a guess.

Ya....so it seems....
http://www.scruz.net/~kangaroo/ Kangas's Web site.

Links about Kangas' death:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jpg40/sk/kangas.htm

-- Douglas bashford at psnw dot-com--

The below series of Usenet posts includes most of one thread from
the hundreds on Usenet news about the Kangas case.
Subject: Evidence of Kangas' murder.
The original thread has 18 replies and can be found along with all the
rest of them on www.dejanews.com; keyword: Kangas.
Some of the redundant quoting of previous replies has been removed
(over 1/3 of the total volume) since this can be read at one sitting,
and is not stretched over a week's time. While it could use more
editing, to remove the redundancies caused by time and my posting
to many discussions simultaneously, I've left it pretty much intact,
there are little details that I fear to remove. I've highlighted some of
the major points or concepts in color or bold for those who prefer
just to skim this.

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Included below you will find
some of the discrepancies in this case,
some of the more plausible theories,
evidence of a professional anti-Kangas troll,
and the chronology, who knew what when,
that police might still not know about. Because the political
newsgroups are basically debate forums, the weaker possibilities
have been weeded out, yet perhaps some good ones were not
noticed. Indeed, not even all the major questions I have, nor what I
see as key evidence is addressed here.
The basic structural flaw in all of this is: Nobody wants to talk about
this, we only know what we read in the newspapers. A foundational
flaw. Yet that picture might be better than what some of the principal
players knew. After all, Usenet knew about the news blackout and
Scaife's involvement a month before the police did. And while we
suspected Hitler's Mein Kampf was a plant, we thought a physical
book was found. It never existed.
What's startling is how many of the theories that might on the surface
appear to have been extracted out of thin air have only been
confirmed as the facts became known. Prediction is the strongest
indicator of understanding. Before the March 14 newspaper articles,
there were basically no facts. The first newspaper article to hit
Usenet was the Scaife-Gazarik-Armistead smear job of Steve Kangas
in Scaife's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review tabloid.
There was a powerful sucking sound as that obvious hatchet-job
filled the information vacuum. The Scaife-Armistead-Tribune-
Review propaganda team were practiced in the game of exploiting
that terrible empty vacuum, the confusion, and human vulnerability
caused by the unexpected death of a loved one from the Vince Foster
case.

In any situation where there is a factual vacuum, one quickly

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recognizes that there are an infinite number of possible explanations.
The trick is to falsify as many as possible, then see which pieces can
be assembled into a picture. From there we compare the several
pictures to see which of those most closely fits our understanding of
reality. I hint at one or two of those reasonable plausibilities here.

My conclusion? This case needs to be investigated by an objective
third party such as the FBI. I think even a surface investigation will
answer these questions. Going out on a limb, specifically:
1) Don Adams and cohort should be investigated, and/or
given a lie detector test.
2) The coroner and detective that night also.
It's that simple.

While the rest of the discussion is in chronological order, I moved this next article from the bottom to
the top of the thread because it's important to understand the chronology of this case. Particularly if
Scaife is to be charged with obstruction of justice. It was cut and paste from another thread, then
modified to conform with my notes.

Chronology

====-+=-+=-+=-+-====

From: see.my.sig@theBeach.edu ( Doug Bashford )
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:55:03 GMT

This debate defines the rough Kangas case timeline.
One guy gives a Scaife tabloid version, and I fill
in the gaps.

on Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:00:09 -0500,
about: Re: Why Did Dick Scaife MURDER Steve Kangas?

>Treb 'or, auditioning wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Mar, Rob Robertson wrote:
>> >Treb 'or wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 26 MarRob Robertson wrote:

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>> >> >The Scaifes had never met, seen or heard of Mr. Kangas. They
>> >> >became aware of his anti-Scaife sentiments only through his
>> >> >Web site, after his death."

Treb 'or wrote:
>> >> Then why did Scaife change all the locks in his
>> >> office immediately after Kangas was murdered?

Rob Robertson wrote:
>> > the locks
>> >were added to the public area restrooms after it was discovered
>> >that a Scaife-obsessed homicidal/suicidal maniac had holed up in
>> >there for several hours.

Bashford:
There is no evidence he "holed up" there. That's another
unsupported Scaife tabloid assertion.

Treb 'or wrote:
>> you just proved my point. How
>> did Scaife known Kangas was a 'Scaife-obsessed ...maniac',
>> as you put it, before he even knew who Kangas was? As you indicated,
>> Scaife must have known Kangas' politics from the beginning, and he
>> could only have known that if he'd 'met' (and murdered) him that day.

Rob Robertson wrote:
> Pay close attention;

Yes, I'll add what you left out of your timeline:

>1) Kangas commits suicide on the 39th floor of One Oxford Centre.

Bashford:
1B)

Kangas died late on Feb 8, and
his body was moved to the coroner's office on Feb 9.
Scaife's minions were questioning Steves's Web
friends on that same date, asking about "leads to friends,
former friends or employers." Of course shocked, his
friends were very talkative, wanting to help.
That evening Scaife's reporter, Rich Gazarik "informs"
Steve's friend Mike Huben that Kangas comited "suicide"
and that he had found Huben by reading Steve's Web site.
I assume Gazarik had first noticed
the Scaife page, -- it's far more obvious. Scaife
withholds all resulting information of the Kangas-Scaife
connection (not a random drifter) from the police for five
weeks.

1C)
Epiststemology: Mike Huben "knows" that Steve
Kangas commited "suicide" and was "drunk".
As this news spreads via e-mail, Steves's Web friends at first
think "investigation" is a cruel hoax after email to Scaife's
reporter, Rich Gazarik, is not returned. Something smells

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fishy. That odor will grow.

==================

insert from Private Email: Date: Fri, 12 Feb
The below is spooky. Almost everything here seemingly went up in
smoke.. Like it had been wiped of fingerprints. Is this series
just another coincidence?. It very well could be. If not, what
could explain the erie lack of useable evidence? Armistead's
"investigation?" No doubt. Bad luck? Some...but....

>This is bad news. Considering that there are some
>serious loony toons among our opponents, the chances
>of foul play are high.
...
But Steve's body was found on the 39th floor of an office building,
which seems a little bit odd. And all the way out in Pa.
I would bet that something brought him to Pa. other than
thoughts of suicide.
He was a writer so it is likely that he was researching
material there.
Can someone post the exact date of his death?
I would like to try and find a few details.
If the office building had a name, such as Rayburn Bldg,
that may also help.

Given the above circumstance, and that the deceased is
from out of town, there would not be a very complete
investigation unless there was strong forensic evidence
to prompt one.

What the people who are closest to him need to do is;

At his home/office check his e-mail and correspondence.
See if he was corresponding with anyone in the area of his
death.

Check his schedule book, or program, and see if there were any
appointments to meet people in the area of his death.

Do a word search on his hard disk for the State, town and
hotel he died in. Include [....]

CHECK HIS PHONE BILLS FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS!!! Look for long
distance calls to the area of his death. Also cross reference

Check his credit card statements, where had he used his credit cards.

Check all his cancelled checks, see where he wrote checks.

How did he get to Pa.? Did he drive or take a plane, train or bus?
Where is his car? The contents of the car need to be gone through.
Especially look for cash register receipts dropped on the floor, under
the seat, etc. These would show the date, time and location of
purchases, even at a McDonalds.

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Also the contents of his pockets, wallet, etc. would also be
checked for the above material.

The odds are that the police in the town of his death would do
none of the above if they can close the file as a suicide.
They would also not request the police in Steve's hometown
to check these things unless they had evidence of foul play
to begin with.

If anybody is in contact with the people close to Steve and [....]
=====================

>2) Run-of-the-mill story about depressed drifter killing himself.

Yes, four days after Kangas's death, a 46 word story
in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
But the Scaife tabloid, the Tribune-Review has
a news black-out on Kangas in effect.
That's what Steves friend's saw: nothing.
Nobody on the Web could find that story with standard
search engines.

>3) Kangas' bizarre Scaife-obsession is discovered.

Why the coverup by Scaife's tabloid??
NOT ONE word, even though (SCOOP!) they knew within
36 hours? Two pages out of 300 is hardly an obsession.
TIME and Newsweek mag each did more articles more on Scaife
this year alone.

>4) Investigation, detailed stories, and bathroom lock change follows.

oooops! and police are STILL NOT notified.
Is that a felony? It is if a murder attempt is
was made but not reported. And obstruction of
justice? You bet. But why?

Feb 13...My e-mail to kangaroo@resurgent.com bounces back.
He was just using it on Usenet a few days before he died.
Who pulled the plug? When? Was Steve's Presario server
there, operated remotely from his apartment as he had
planned? If so, who got it?

Our Web investigation begins and e-mail
flys as recognition that Scaife may be behind this dons:
"Isn't Richard Mellon Scaife from Pittsburgh?"
================================

insert from Private Email, Tue, 16 Feb 1999
Subject: I hope I am being paranoid now, but ...

>I think whoever called is pulling a scam. From the way [name]

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>described it, it sounded like they wanted as much info on Steve
>as they could get.
>
>If it's a scam, they are willing to play dirty. You, be
>careful what you say about Steve to anyone you aren't at
>least reasonably familiar with. Steve's safety could be
>riding on it.

...what was the name of the Pittsburgh newspaper where the
reporter called you again?

I ask because Richard Mellon Scaife's newspaper is in Pittsburgh.
I sincerely hope this is a paranoid question and that we will be
able to laugh at my paranoia at some point if it is.

If it isn't just my paranoia,[....]
=================================

5) Death finally confirmed by calling coroner's office
on on 2/18. They report the police have "closed the file"
on the Kangas case. Web friends stunned: not a hoax.

On 2/20 Steve's death is mentioned in one of the Politics
threads of Salon's Table Talk forums in conjunction with
Scaife's foundation HQ.

2/23, 46-word obit by Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, of February 12,
discovered, mentioning One Oxford Centre.
Web friends confirm that One Oxford Centre is Scaife's HQ
from a Congressional letter addressed there.
I ask, "Who's Scaife?..duh..."
"This is getting real weird, we need to call the FBI."

6) Web begins to boil, for example:
* >on Fri, 19 Feb "Milt" wrote
* >about: Kangas on the VRWC:
* >>In honor of our friend, Steve Kangas,

* on Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:16:34 GMT,
* (Studebaker Hawk) wrote:
* about: Web warrior Steve Kangas' untimely death...

Would Scaife's news blackout and cover-up have
continued indefinitely without the Web involvement?

7)
Scaife now has some MAJOR explaining to do. His random
drifter ploy is not sticking. It's about to blow.
How can the Grand master of Conspiracy and Slur spin this?

Below is how those on one Newsgroup saw the Kangas issue.
Other newsgroups have the same theme.
The red bracketed numbers are the number of replies in a "thread".

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8) March 14, the news blackout blows. Three articles published in Pittsburgh, some
picked up by AP. Usenet interest in this explodes.
Scaife's Murder Conspiracy and Slur of Kangas saturates Usenet:

9) March 17, Quoting Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, headline:

Police seek to question Scaife in man's suicide
[...]
* Deputy police Chief Earl Woodyard said police who
* investigated the shooting at the time were unaware of any
* potential connection between Kangas and Scaife.

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* Woodyard said police are "taking a second look at the
* possibility" Kangas might have traveled to Pittsburgh to
* confront or attack Scaife. "Everything points to a
* suicide, but the article in the Post-Gazette brought up
* all these connections. We were not aware of his past
* involvement with the Internet or the liberal
* organizations."

* Detectives "are going to interview Mr. Scaife, if he'll
* submit to an interview," Woodyard said.

[...]
* According to Woodyard, detectives might also be interested
* in talking with Rex Armistead, a Mississippi private
* detective who has traveled the country in search of
* information on Kangas' background. Armistead previously
* had worked as an investigator on the so-called "Arkansas
* Project," which Scaife funded on behalf of the American
* Spectator magazine. The project was launched in Clinton's
* first term to dig up negative information on the
* president's background.

> Do try to keep up. >Rob Robertson

Yes. Do that.
Stay tuned.
Up next, some epistemology on this. Scaife is
good, real good....

-- Douglas bashford at psnw dot-com--

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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc, alt.society.liberalism,
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.clinton, alt.cabal

Subject: Evidence of Kangas' murder.


Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 05:07:52 GMT

In 36FD1C36.F51D950E@dev.null
on 27 Mar "Duane K. Kelly" wrote:
about: Re: Kangas' Web Site STILL remains Unrefuted.

"Tom Potter" wrote:
>> >Because of the class warfare kind of brainwashing
>> >that is common in the Public Education Monopoly,
>> >rather than going out and competing in a free and open market,
>> >the mind of Kangas was filled with hate for the people who
>> >were successful in the free market, so that when he did not

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>> >succeed in the free market, rather than try, try again,
>> >he bought a gun, and engaged in his own little class war.

Doug Bashford wrote:
>> Oh. So you think wild speculation stated as fact
>> is valid, do you? Ok. He was murdered by the man
>> who hid his relationship with Kangas for a month
>> from police. The same man who slings hate, slander
>> and disrespect with the full force of his ample powers. Funny
>> heroes you guys seem to worship.

"Duane K. Kelly" wrote:
>Irrelevant, there is no evidence that Kangas was murdered,

There's plenty.

> Also there is no evidence that Richard even had
>the slightest idea that Kangas existed.

I suppose that Scaife's newspaper and Armistead started
their investigation within 36 hours of Kangas's
death without Scaife's knowledge? Within
36 (perhaps sooner, I don't know) there was an
investigation underway, and Kangas's friends and
Web friends were being questioned by Scaife & Co.

Too bad for Scaife. He should be charged with
obstruction of justice, at minimum.

So Duane, why would a respectable man hide this
relationship from the police for a month? Don't
you find his news blackout a bit odd? After all,
the real newspaper in town ran a 46 word obit four
days after Kangas' death. Two days AFTER Scaife's
tabloid began it's intensive investigation.

Why did Scaife hide from the police?
Why did his tabloid cover for him?

>Irrelevant, there is no evidence that Kangas was murdered,

That's evidence, pal. Not proof, just evidence.
Would you like some more? There's plenty.

-- Douglas bashford at psnw dot-com-- Middle-of-the-road extremist.

- Dear Politicians:
- Seek to increase individuals' wealth and freedom
- rather than stimulating the gross economy. Consider abundance
- and wholeness instead of so-called; "economic growth".
- Growthmania consumes what it promises. Ecology delivers.

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From: "Duane K. Kelly" user@dev.null
Date: 28 Mar 1999 06:10:21 GMT


> Why did Scaife hide from the police?
> Why did his tabloid cover for him?
>
> >Irrelevant, there is no evidence that Kangas was murdered,
>
> That's evidence, pal. Not proof, just evidence.
> Would you like some more? There's plenty.

All you have provide here is not a lick of proof, only speculation. And
the biggest lie is about Richard hiding from the police, hell they were
there on day one. If you had the slightest idea about the duties of a
bodyguard, you would know that any apparent threat is to be thorough
investigated, and there is no law that states this investigation has to
be reported to the police. Who knows which Kangasite will be waiting and
where to finish what Kangas failed in his attempts to off Richard. It is
called common sense, not proof of murder. Your ideas are completely full
of holes.

Cordially,

Duane K. Kelly

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:50:33 GMT

In 36FDC7D3.BC73EA10@dev.null
on 28 Mar 1999 06:10:21 GMT,
"Duane K. Kelly" user@dev.null wrote:
about: Re: Evidence of Kangas' murder.

>Doug Bashford wrote:
>>
>> In <36FD1C36.F51D950E@dev.null>
>> on 27 Mar "Duane K. Kelly" wrote:

>> That's evidence, pal. Not proof, just evidence.
>> Would you like some more? There's plenty.

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>All you have provide here is not a lick of proof, only speculation.

Bashford:
You don't read too well do you? I said it was
not proof, just evidence. And I didn't post
speculation, just facts and the questions
that logically follow from them.

But if you see speculation there, who could blame you?
The questions raised are self evident.

> And the biggest lie is about Richard hiding from the
> police, hell they were there on day one.

But Scaife was hiding, wasn't he?

It's fact. There was a newspaper headline a month later because
police had only then learned of the Scaife-Kangas connection.
Perhaps you would care to assert that Scaife just forgot to
tell the police?

>If you had the slightest idea about the duties of a
>bodyguard, you would know that any apparent threat
>is to be thorough

I don't give a rat's ass what P.I. Rex Armistead did.
I'm talking about Scaife.

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From: jvanm@usa.net (Van)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:32:15 GMT

On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 05:07:52 GMT, see.my.sig@theBeach.edu ( Doug
Bashford ) wrote:

>Why did Scaife hide from the police?
>Why did his tabloid cover for him?
>
>>Irrelevant, there is no evidence that Kangas was murdered,
>
>That's evidence, pal. Not proof, just evidence.
>Would you like some more? There's plenty.

jvanm@usa.net (Van) wrote:
There are also the new burglar alarm system Steve Kangas bought, the
server he bought and the domain name that he registered in
anticipation of a huge increase in web traffic to his political page.
Verifiable facts. There is also that bullet found in the clothing
store of a ground floor shop at One Oxford Centre. There are many
loose ends that will probably never be tied up. But Occam's Razor and
the Law of Parsimony don't favor any simple suicide theory no matter

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how the Daunes on these lists slime their tales.

Van

******************************************
Steve Kangas Mirror Site
http://home.att.net/~jbvm/Resurgent
The truth lives on
******************************************

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It seems we may have a professional troll below?

This debates Scaife's tabloid articles:

Subject: RE: Evidence of Kangas' murder.
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:06:16

Van wrote:

> the Law of Parsimony don't favor any simple suicide theory no
> matter how the Daunes on these lists slime their tales.
> Van

This is true, it was not and is not a simple suicide case, it was a
foiled assassination attempt by Kangas to murder Richard Scaife. The
action of Richard after the foiled attempt, the investigation Kangas to
find out who he was, and if there is more just like him is justified as
a security measure, a measure that you claim Kangas made prior to his
leaving LV, yet you justify one, and claim the other is an admission of
guilt. (Can you say double standard?).

With all the people that Kangas stole from in LV, $30,000 by his
own admission to his former employer. (which he lost by the way
attempting to start an S&M web site), how much more did he steal
from employers, or owe in gambling debts to the mob
in LV? I would say the new alarm system was in
regards to a fear of retaliation from the mob over gambling
debts, or a disgruntled employer or "business partner". As for
Kangas's "new server" (that turned out to be a PC) it is clear
he could not afford being his room mate had to sell as
compensation to pay Kangas's share of room rent that was
several month pass due. Then there's the thousands of dollars
that Kangas expected from his popular uprising in contributions
that never materialized. Instead, he had to sell his car
to even afford the 9mm he shot himself with, and purchase a bus
ticket to Pittsburgh with only $14 and change left to his name.
How depressing for Kangas,
all of you Kangasites had most surely let him down... or did
he blow all the contributions on wine, women, and gambling debts?

If Richard knew who Kangas was, why did it take over 72 hours to find

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out who his friend were and to start questioning them? If he had
known who Kangas was or viewed him as even the slightest threat his
investigators and security team would have been there in less than 24
hours, not 72. Security personnel are a whole lot more thorough than
that concerning know threats, or possible threats, and all this
information would have already been compiled. Been there, done that,
I know the procedure.

Therefore, the implication that the beefed up security and the
investigation into Kangas life is some sort of admission of guilt,
or that Richard has something to hide is the dumbest of all
accusation I have heard from any Kangasites with the
exception of the out and out lie by Gail
claiming Kangas was shot twice with a shotgun IN Richards
personal bathroom. (This alone proves that the Kangasites
will lie when the truth would answer better in a bleak effort
to coverup the assassination attempt bungled by Steve).

[note: Gail has publicly denied claiming Kangas was shot
with a shotgun, and lack of evidence strongly suggests
that she did not. -db]

Speaking of lies, BTW Van, the shop mentioned where the bullet hole was
found was not in, or a part of the One Oxford Center as you claimed.
"Near" is not the "ground floor shop at One Oxford Centre" as you so
kindly twisted it.

"Police also will examine any possible link between Kangas and a bullet
slug that Woodyard said was discovered near one of the One Oxford shops
around the same time Kangas killed himself."
http://www.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990317scaife4.asp

It's a big city, with lots of people, and no connection between the two
have been linked. It was merely a cautionary investigation, and prove
that the Police Department had done a very thorough investigation. The
bottom line is still suicide. Time of discovery and time of occurrence
as to when the bullet actually penetrated the window, could just as
easily been days or weeks. (You act as if Kangas had the only 9mm in
town or the first time one was discharged in the city limits. You all
must not get out very often).

Cordially,

Duane K. Kelly

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:09:52 -0500

Van wrote:
> Law of Parsimony as stated by William of Ockham
>
> Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem.
>
> Van

Any reference to this parrot as a going concern is null and void.

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Cordially,

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Subject: Re: Evidence of Kangas' murder.
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:21:23 GMT

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:09:52 "Duane K. Kelly" user@dev.null
wrote:
>Any reference to this parrot as a going concern is null and void.
>

As dumbass Duane tries to cover his ignorance with bluster. It's like
trying to cover a pile of shit with a cocktail napkin. His next
routine is to smear the dead....sing song.

Van
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:54:55 GMT

ooops, sorry not much new evidence in this post.
Just a little overview perspective.

michaelkelley@home.com (Mike Kelly) or is it Mike Kelley
or is it Duane K. Kelly user@dev.null
or some other Scaife toady Wrote:

>X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net
>Van wrote:

>> On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 05:07:52 Doug Bashford wrote:
>>> on 27 Mar "Duane K. Kelly" wrote:

>>> >Irrelevant, there is no evidence that Kangas was murdered,

Bashford:
>>> So Duane, why would a respectable man hide this
>>> relationship from the police for a month?

Bashford:
You never answered, Duane, or Mike, or whom ever you are.
I notice you (and the other Kelly, (or is it Kelley?)?)
both seemingly materialized with the Scaife-Armistead tabloid

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smear-job of Steve Kangas.
530 messages since. You've been a busy toady, Duane.

Why did I check on you? Because you exactly parrot the
Scaife tabloid. Then ooops! I did a search on kelly and
found he was the one who INTRODUCED the Scaife-Armistead
smear to Usenet. Mmmmmm....

Remember this next post quoting from Scaife's tabloid?
Extract:
??-
In <36ecaf7a.2053841@news> on Mon, 15 Mar 1999 07:06:17 GMT,
Re: Web warrior Steve Kangas' untimely death...
michaelkelley@home.com (Mike Kelly) wrote:

??- So much for the Web Warrior.
??-
??- From;
??- http://www.triblive.com/news/rkan0314.html
??-
??- Tribune Review Regional News - March 14, 1999
??-
??- Scaife-obsessed man sought him, but took own life
??-
??- By Richard Gazarik TRIBUNE-REVIEW
??-
??- Last month, Steve Kangas of Las Vegas bought
??- a 9mm pistol, a bottle of Jack Daniel's whiskey
??- and a bus ticket to Pittsburgh.
??-
??- It would be a one-way trip.
??-
??- Almost immediately after arriving on Feb. 8,
??- Kangas went to One Oxford Centre. He walked
??- around inside the towering office complex for a
??- time, then hid out in a public restroom on the
??- 39th floor.
??-
??- Nine hours later, drunk to the point of
??- incoherence, Kangas shot and killed himself in
??- the restroom - on the same floor as the offices
??- of Richard M. Scaife, the publisher of the
??- Tribune-Review and a nationally known backer of
[chop]

Bashford:
What a smear....if he'd drank 2/3 as much, he could
have legally driven. But wait. This tale was concocted a
month after Kangas died. Is it just a random and expensive
smear of a "nobody" lefty? Or just the ravings of a crazy
paranoid? What real (economic theory) purpose might it serve?
("crazy" Time magazine 10-FEB-99)

Follow the money, I say.

>>> Why did Scaife hide from the police?
>>> Why did his tabloid cover for him?

>>> >Irrelevant, there is no evidence that Kangas was murdered,

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>>> That's evidence, pal. Not proof, just evidence.
>>> Would you like some more? There's plenty.

Van wrote:
>> There are also the new burglar alarm system Steve Kangas bought,
>> the server he bought and the domain name that he registered in
[...]

A gun and burglar alarm purchased about the same time?
What do they have in common, a critical man might ask.
Defense. Of what? Something very valuable?

Does Rex Armistead's intensive search come to mind about now?

> This is true, it was not and is not a simple suicide case, it was a
> foiled assassination attempt by Kangas to murder Richard Scaife.

Isn't failure to report attempted murder a felony?

You are such a tabloid parrot. That's all you are,
isn't it? A paid Scaife toady and troll perhaps?
$12 an hour perhaps? An old Usenet trick first documented
in the IBM/Apple wars. Paid trolls.

Ok, Duane. Back up your slander.
I've been patiently backing up my assertions. With TIME
or Salon magazine or a real newspaper's quotes. What do
you have besides the Scaife sleazy tabloid? And his AP
feeds. Nothing?

> With all the people that Kangas stole from in LV, $30,000 by
> his own admission to his former employer.

1) Back up "stole", slanderer.

> (which he lost by the way attempting to start an S&M web site),

2) Support "S&M web site".

> owe in gambling debts to the mob in LV?

3) Support that wild assertion stated as fact.

Oooops... Can't do it? All you have is the word of
sleazy tabloid with 1/10 the circulation of the Fresno Bee?
("sleaze" TIME magazine Feb 21 1999)

> I would say the new alarm system
> was in regards to a fear of retaliation from the mob over gambling
> debts, or a disgruntled employer or "business partner".

Oh, would you now!? Well your unsupported postulations
certainly need serious consideration, don't they?

> If Richard knew who Kangas was, why did it take over 72 hours
> to find out who his friend were and to start questioning them?

Good point! It didn't take 72 hours.
But the police NEVER did. Why?

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> If he had known
> who Kangas was or viewed him as even the slightest threat his
> investigators and security team would have been there in less
> than 24 hours, not 72.

It took less than 36 hours (see above). Will a reputable man
like you call me a liar for 1/2 day?

[NOTE: later checking: it did take less than
24 hours for Gazarik to question Huben. --db]

> Security personnel are a whole lot more thorough than
> that concerning know threats, or possible threats, and all this
> information would have already been compiled. Been there,
> done that, I know the procedure.

So it seems. 24 hours was a pretty good guess!
Ooops.

> that Richard has something to hide
> is the dumbest of all accusation

It's hardly accusation there, pal. It's documented fact.
Perhaps you would care to posit that Team Scaife just "forgot"
to notify the police that the police didn't have a clue? That
they were investigating a random suicide when it was not?
That even by YOUR words it was attempted murder!?::

> it was a foiled assassination

I believe failure to report that is a felony.

THAT, my friend IS evidence. No, not proof.

Have the police pressed charges?
No? THAT, my friend IS evidence.
Call in the FBI.

> "Police also will examine any possible link between Kangas and
> a bullet slug that Woodyard said was discovered near one of the
> One Oxford shops around the same time Kangas killed himself."
> http://www.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990317scaife4.asp

Ah yes, THAT article. A month after Kangas dies, they
write:

Police seek to question Scaife in man's suicide

* Wednesday, March 17, 1999
* By Dennis B. Roddy, Post-Gazette Staff Writer

* Pittsburgh homicide detectives want to question
* conservative philanthropist and publisher
* Richard Mellon Scaife in a widening
* investigation into the death of a man
* who shot himself outside Scaife's offices at One Oxford
* Centre.

* A deputy police chief said interest [Image]

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* in the death of Steve Kangas was Prior article:
* renewed following published reports ....link....
* in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that Death sparks
* revealed that Kangas, a former Army conspiracy theory
* intelligence officer, had published
* articles on the World Wide Web
* accusing Scaife of backing a [Image]
* right-wing conspiracy against
* President Clinton. Detectives now want to know if Scaife

IOW, Scaife had successfully hid the Kangas/Scaife connection
for over a month! Oooops...it wasn't a random suicide??
If they had known that Steve Kangas had died on his
enemy's door-step, (or even a friend's,) they would have
investigated a whole new world...

> Duane K. Kelly

Or is it michaelkelley@home.com (Mike Kelly) or is it Mike Kelley
or is it Duane K. Kelly? Michael Kelley or Mike Kelley? How
about Duane K. Kelley? Michael K. Kelley? Jeepers, not
Rich Gazarik!? laughingggg! It doesn't really matter.
A toady by any name is still....

Anyway Duane (may I call you that?), the reason I wrote
this silly ad hominem article is that it seems like it's
the only way to deal with those whose only argument is
ad hominem. At least Right Wingers seem to consider it
valid. In the future,
I expect I'll give you the intellectual and logical credit
your "arguments" deserve and utterly ignore your posts.

-- Douglas bashford

ironic quote of the day by:
Kelly Freehold Anderson,
in an attempt to get your home address,
Owner: Duane K. Kelly wrote:
"Here at Kelly Freehold we have a very firm belief, there
are those that like to hide and yell great obscenities while
pretending to be great... then there are those who will
stand up and be counted. Those that are not afraid to
stand up like a man...."
and think for themselves, not merely parrot
with out independent facts nor logic the thoughts
of their peers....
========

[note: that was the last we heard from "Duane K. Kelly" --db.]

other evidence & ideas...

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From: mcgredo@otter.mbay.net (Donald R. McGregor)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 09:04:31 GMT

In article <37058a67.538950759@news.psnw.com>,

>>but the PC in question was a Compaq Presario,
>
>Citation please.

Dejanews, Kangas' post.

--
Don McGregor |"Yes, vanity is a weakness indeed. But pride
mcgredo@mbay.net | is a real superiority of mind, pride will be
| good regulation" --Mr. Darcy, _Pride &

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From: shea_waters@deja-news.com (shea_waters@deja-news.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:19:09 GMT

On Mon, 29 Mar, "Duane K. Kelly" user@dev.null wrote:

>"new server" (that turned out to be a PC) it is clear he could not

What do you think a "server" is, generally?

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:33:43 GMT

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:19:09 GMT, shea_waters@deja-news.com
(shea_waters@deja-news.com) wrote:

>What do you think a "server" is, generally?

Duane's obviously in over his head with an anchor for a life raft.
His next move will be to scandalize the dead.

Van
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:54:53 GMT

Van wrote on 30 Mar 1999 19:15:21 GMT

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[huge chops]
Bashford quoting Salon magazine:
** according to sources and documents.

Bashford:
>THAT is what is being used against Web warrior Steve Kangas.

Rex Armistead must be very "talented" indeed.
Beware of stereotypes.

>> Because the Scaife-Gazarik-Armistead tabloid article was such an
>> obvious hatchet-job and smear of Steve, I have chosen to disregard

>> From that I see three possibilities:
>> 1) Steve committed suicide.
>> 2) Steve met with Scaife (all facts and logic lead to this).
>> 3) Steve was caught with his hand in the files. (holes, but

Van:
>*the case. I think your interpretation, that Scaife met with
>*Steve Kangas in the afternoon is the most plausible. I don't

...
>*Scaife to come in and take a whizz is simply ludicrous. A
>*question I'd like to know is whether Scaife has private security,
>*ie., body guards and if so, have they been questioned.

Bashford:
Scaife has a reputation for being paranoid. I've heard it
said that only Pres. Clinton has better security. I doubt
that. So draw your own conclusions. From what I've seen
of Scaife's slanderous tabloid, that alone would warrant security.
Indeed, I'm surprised you have not concluded that Rex Armistead
is a big part of security as well as propaganda. I have.

>* The fact is Steve was
>*seen on surveillance cameras coming into the building in the afternoon
>*and he disappeared until seen in the bathroom outside of Scaife's
>*offices late at night.

That is a fact. Also the camera system was spotty. From that,
I can draw no conclusions, other than the fact you stated.
However his observed behavior is consistent with wandering
about till an appointment. Perhaps he went sight-seeing.
Perhaps he had a few drinks with Scaife later.
Others have insinuated the tapes were doctored. I have
utterly nothing to base that on, so I disregard it.

>* Another question I'd like to know is whether
>*Scaife has living quarters in the building. The building is
>*listed as a building with both. >*Van

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I think an executive washroom, a bed, a wet bar, and a
small wardrobe, minimum, would normally be assumed for an office
of any executive of Scaife's stature, (paranoia,) and means.

>> Again, an FBI investigation would clear this up. My focal point
>> would be: who is "building engineer Don Adams"? All assumptions
>> rest on him. Give him a lie detector test.
>
>And if he dies or disappears? Or refuses a lie detector test?
>Who here will call that coincidence?

Newspaper quote:
>++ According to the police report, Kangas made eye contact
>++ with Adams, who asked him, "Are you OK?" The report said
>++ Kangas mumbled something and Adams told him to stay put
>++ and he would get help.
>
> "stay put and he would get help."

That would corroborate the blood Adams spotted then.
Some think he had already been shot once, others think
he was being worked over and surprised, others just
don't believe Don Adams.

The question remains, why did Kangas need help?

>++ Adams told police he went outside to radio for a
>++ colleague. When the men returned, they found Kangas fully
>++ clothed, sitting on the toilet, covered with blood.

[To *RADIO* for help? Who is Don Adams?
Maintenance or security?]

>>>*+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>*A routine check of electrical circuit breakers????
>>>*Say what!?
>>>
>>>++ building engineer Don Adams was making a
>>>++ routine check of electrical circuit breakers in the men's room
>>>++ down the hall from the Scaife foundation offices when he found
....Kangas in dire need of help.

>>*There is no routine check of such circuit breakers.
>>*I worked for [named] Electric Power Company for 15 years.

Ooops.

More evidence and logic to come.

-- Douglas bashford
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:23:16 GMT

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:20:50 -0500, "Duane K. Kelly" user@dev.null
wrote:

>"shea_waters@deja-news.com" wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 "Duane K. Kelly" user@dev.null wrote:
>>
>> >"new server" (that turned out to be a PC) it is clear he
>> >could not

>> What do you think a "server" is, generally?
>
>The hardware, and software. Personal Computers (PC) can double
>as a server, though prone to crashing, and security breaches,
>and a very poor substitute.

You say....and it's only a red herring at best. "Clear that
he could not" turns magically into "can double as" as if you're
saying something besides just trying to cover your own ignorance.
What next....going to smear the dead some more?

There's Duanes ass and there's a hole in the ground -- and poor Duane
is left scratching his head trying to figure which is which. You
might learn to read and try to know at least a little about a subject
before you post.

Van
****************************************************
Is NT server 4.0 right for me?
Author: Steve Kangas
Date: 1998/10/07
Forum: microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup

"Help!" cried the newbie.

I am about to launch a high-traffic website. My ISP has told me I
can co-locate my own personal server at his location to handle
the website. For my server, I have bought a Compaq Presario
5020, with 128 megs of RAM, 6 gigs of disk space and a
Celeron 300 processor. I have yet to configure it.

I am now looking for appropriate server software. Would
Windows NT Server 4.0 with ISS be suitable, considering
all the above?

I'm also going to use FrontPage to design the website. Does
NT server 4.0 come with all the appropriate FrontPage
extensions or CGI to run FrontPage, or do I have to add that
myself? (Specifically, I'm wondering about all the usual
capabilities -- counters, discussion lists, chatrooms, built-in
email messages, etc.)

Also, I'll be operating my server remotely from my house. What
are the licensing issues involved? Do I need only one license?

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What about the thousands of people who visit my site on the
Net?

MS literature seems really lame addressing these issues --
perhaps you guys can give clearer and better information.

Thanks in advance,

Steve
********************************************************

******************************************
Steve Kangas Mirror Site
http://home.att.net/~jbvm/Resurgent
The truth lives on
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:50:42 GMT

> TIME MAGAZINE 23-JUL-97
> "Richard Mellon Scaife, agitator

> "If conservative thinkers like Bill Bennett and Paul
> Weyrich are the brainpower behind the resurgent
> American right, the horsepower comes from
> Richard Mellon Scaife. For close to four decades,
> the 64-year-old Pennsylvanian has used his
> millions to back anti-liberal ideas and their
> proponents.
> ----------end quote

A "Scaife" search of the TIME archives will find words like
"crazy", "rabid", "kooky", "Larry Flynt" and "sleaze"
to describe Scaife or his Pittsburgh tabloid. Check it out.
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/

Bashford:
> There are now hundreds of Usenet articles, perhaps 50 threads
> regarding the mysterious death of liberal Web warrior Steve
> Kangas. Was it suicide, murder, a foiled burglary or a foiled
> murder? To me, the most logical is a meeting gone bad.

> Perhaps the billionaire found something he could not buy.

> Right Wing icon and billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife
> has launched a smear campaign against Kangas with his Pittsburgh
> newspaper and infamous (see Ken Starr) investigator, Rex Armistead
> and is sniveling because the competing Pittsburgh
> newspaper has written some contrary articles questioning the
> death of Kangas. All this after a month-long news blackout

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> while Usenet was buzzing about this issue. It's interesting
> to check Dejanews and watch some vague ideas crystallize
> as the facts become known. And it's revolting to watch
> Steve's enemies escalate Steve's going to strip joints into
> being a pornographer, etc, out of thin air.

> From the competing paper, the Post-Gazette:
> http://www.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990314suicide1.asp
>
> ++ Headline: Death sparks conspiracy theory
> ++ Sunday, March 14, 1999
> ++ By Dennis B. Roddy, Post-Gazette Staff Writer
>
> ++ A former Army intelligence officer shot himself to
> ++ death last month in a restroom outside conservative
> ++ philanthropist and publisher Richard Mellon Scaife's
> ++ Downtown offices, and Scaife has assigned a private
> ++ investigator to determine whether the incident was a
> ++ bungled assassination attempt.
>
> ++ [Image]++ Steven R. Kangas died in the
> ++ Steven R.++ late hours of Monday, Feb.
> ++ Kangas++ 8, on the 39th floor of One
> ++ ++ Oxford Centre.
>
> ++ The shooting of the 37-year-old Las Vegas man attracted
> ++ little attention at the time, and Pittsburgh police and
> ++ the Allegheny County coroner's office quickly ruled it a
> ++ suicide.

In fact, now we know why. Scaife hid his relationship
with Kangas from the police for a month, even while Scaife's
minions, Rex Armistead and Rich Gazarik had
in less than 36 hours launched his smear campaign against
Kangas and was questioning Kangas's friends and Web friends.

That Kangas may have died three to six hours before it
was reported is at this point pure speculation.

The Post-Gazette continues:
> ++ Since then, though, the Internet has churned with
> ++ speculation about Kangas.
>
> ++ For the past month, according to Kangas' friends and
> ++ family, Mississippi private investigator Rex Armistead has
> ++ traveled the country, trying to learn what interest Kangas
> ++ might have had in Scaife.

Funny the police were not aware of Scaife's involvement.
The police investigated it as a random suicide by an
aimless drifter. So guess what they concluded?

> ++ Kangas had recently sold his share of a gambling business
> ++ in Las Vegas, and he ran the "Liberalism Resurgent" page
> ++ on the World Wide Web. The page published extensive
> ++ criticism of conservatives, and some of its writings

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> ++ asserted that Scaife was the financier of a right-wing
> ++ conspiracy to topple President Clinton.
> [chop, end quote]
>
> One "conspiracy" idea:
> 1) Steve's purchase of a gun and burglar alarm are also consistent
> with guarding something very valuable, including self.
> 2) Scaife hid the Kangas-Scaife connection for a month from
> the police.
> 3) Scaife is acting irrationally regarding the Armistead thing.
> A quick investigation might have been rational.
> 4) Armistead has been given permission to open Steve's mail,
> documents, etc by the family. (I assume Steve's email and
> Website too.)
> 5) Steve said he was going to collect some money from two people.
> 6) Scaife's Gazarik newspaper smear of Steve seems to have been
> fed by Armistead's "facts".
>
> It appears to me that Scaife is searching for something, and he
> has a legitimate cover for this search. There are other
> scenarios postulated regarding these curious facts on Usenet.
> Why an expensive and rabid investigation/smear of a
> "nobody"?

Indeed. The same force Scaife normally uses against Clinton,
et al. On Kangas? Why?

from:
http://www.salonmagazine.com/news/1998/04/cov_20news.html

[chop]

[chop]

THAT is what is being used against Steve Kangas.

> Because the Scaife-Gazarik-Armistead newspaper article was such an
> obvious hatchet-job and smear of Steve, I have chosen to disregard every
> word there an go instead by the three other (are there more?) articles
> published by the reputable Pittsburgh newspaper. ( For example, I
> disregard the slur that Steve was hiding in the restroom for hours.)
> From that I see three possibilities:
> 1) Steve committed suicide.
> 2) Steve met with Scaife (all facts and logic lead to this).
> 3) Steve was caught with his hand in the files. (holes, but plausible)

> Again, an FBI investigation would clear this up. My focal point
> would be: who is "building engineer Don Adams"? All assumptions
> rest on him. Give him a lie detector test.

And if he dies or disappears? Or refuses a lie detector test?

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Who here will call that coincidence?

Post-Gazette newspaper:
++ According to the police report, Kangas made eye contact
++ with Adams, who asked him, "Are you OK?" The report said
++ Kangas mumbled something and Adams told him to stay put
++ and he would get help.

"stay put and he would get help."

++ Adams told police he went outside to radio for a
++ colleague. When the men returned, they found Kangas fully
++ clothed, sitting on the toilet, covered with blood.

>>*+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>*A routine check of electrical circuit breakers????
>>*Say what!?
>>
>>++ building engineer Don Adams was making a routine check of
>>++ electrical circuit breakers in the men's room down the
>>++ hall from the Scaife foundation offices when he found
>>*[...]
e-mail from: Kevin O'Connell lightonliberty@hotmail.com
http://members.tripod.com/~Kevin_OConnell
>*There is no routine check of such circuit breakers.
>*Unless you are checking for a specific problem those
>*things are installed and then ignored until a problem
>*occurs. I worked for [named] Electric Power Company
>*for 15 years. The first five of those years I was a
>*field worker in a trouble shooting section. Part of
>*my duties was assisting the lead worker checking customer
>*complaints. Part of what I did was to take the covers
>*off of the circuit breaker boxes and check the connections.
>*Even in commercial installations there is no reason to
>*take these things apart unless there is an actual problem.

>*...But for insurance and licensing reasons these checks
>*are performed by licensed electricians, not by the
>*regular maintenance staff.

[cough] Guess what that means?
Do we have a pattern here?

> on Sun, 7 Mar (milton brewster) wrote:
> about: Re: Steve Kangas Found Shot To Death In Richard Mellon Scaife's
> Bathroom
> >
> >Several of us have known for about three weeks that Seven Kangas,
> >a very well-known and thoughtful Usenet poster on many political
> >and economic issues, was found dead of a gunshot wound in the
> >Scaife Executive offices in Pittsburgh, PA. That's right: THAT
> >Scaife-- Richard Mellon Scaife.
> >
> >* * * * *

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> >
> >Kangas was a Doctoral Candidate at UC: Santa Cruz and maintained
> >an extensive web site reporting his well-researched academic (but
> >readable) analysis of political issues important to Liberals,
> >Conservatives, Libertarians, Anarchists-- and just about anybody
> >who is interested in American Politics.
> >
> >His death is sincerely mourned by many of us. We also have many
[snip]

> > Many of us would like to
> >know a lot more than the conveniently hasty investigations of the
> >Pittsburgh Police and Coroners' office finally reported.
> >
> >I invite everyone to go to DejaNews right now, type in "Steve
...
> >milton brewster

> >In article , msb@netcom.com says...
> >> wrote:
[snip]
> Of over 300 well organized html pages, Scaife is
> mentioned in two.
>
> Kangas' multiple award winning Web site:
> http://www.scruz.net/~kangaroo/tenets.htm
> Kangas on Scaife:
> http://www.scruz.net/~kangaroo/L-clintonrightwingconspiracy.html
>
> -- Douglas bashford

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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:55:03 GMT

This article defines the rough Kangas case timeline.
One guy gives his version, and I fill in the gaps.
[removed to top]
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc, alt.society.liberalism,
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.clinton, alt.cabal

Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:26:27 GMT

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:55:03 GMT, see.my.sig@theBeach.edu ( Doug
Bashford ) wrote:

>
>This article defines the rough Kangas case timeline.

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