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Pre-nups and the Marriage Bargain: giant
step forward or giant step back?



            Anne Barlow
            University of Exeter
            Marriage Foundation
            Notre Dame University, London
            15th February 2013
Aims of presentation
• To consider research findings of study on public
  attitudes to binding pre-nuptial agreements
• To consider public perceptions on the
  importance of autonomy in couple relationships
• To consider public perceptions of importance
  post-divorce fairness and pre-nuptial
  agreements
• To reflect on what this means for the ‘marriage
  bargain’
Empirical project
• Funded by the Nuffield Foundation, a two
  phase 12 month empirical study was
  undertaken to explore attitudes to pre-nuptial
  agreements and to feed into the Law
  Commission’s project on marital agreements
 ▫ First a nationally representative study using
   structured questionnaires over two phases of the
   NatCen omnibus in E&W (2,827 respondents) in 2010
 ▫ Second a follow up qualitative study was undertaken
   with a purposive sample of 26 to probe thinking
   behind these attitudes
Research questions
• What are public perceptions of pre-nuptial
  agreements?
• How important is the freedom to make such a
  binding agreement?
• Are people ready to use pre-nups culturally?
• Are there limits to public acceptability of such
  agreements?
Method
• We used a mixture of attitudinal statements
  plus scenario questions where the impact of the
  pre-nup was compared with the current law
  (pre-Radmacher)
• These were probed in the follow up qualitative
  study in semi-structured interviews (post-
  Radmacher)
National Survey Attitude Questions
• HOW FAR DO YOU AGREE -
• Binding pre-nuptial agreements are a good
  way of allowing couples to decide privately
  what should happen in the event of divorce

• Binding prenuptial agreements are a bad idea
  because it is too difficult to predict what will
  be fair at the end of a marriage

• If prenuptial agreements were binding, you
  would be more likely to marry your current
  cohabitant partner

• The longer the marriage, the less influence
  pre-nuptial agreements should have on a
  divorce court
Summary of National Views
                                                        Agree      Disagree   Neutral



                                                  17                                                                   14
              20
                                                                                        32

                                                                                                                       20
                                                  18
              22




                                                                                        53

                                                  65                                                                   66
              58




                                                                                        15


Binding prenups are good way to    Binding prenups are bad as can't      Binding prenup would make me   The longer the marriage, the less
privately agree divorce outcome   predict what will be fair on divorce               marry               influence preunps should have
Reservations?
• Autonomy is therefore attractive, at least
  superficially, but when probed in the scenarios,
  people became less sure. Some like Frances, in
  the qualitative study, thought the courts were
  inherently fairer because –
The courts can look at the whole picture
• Jilly was aware of power imbalances -
I think if you have a bullying partner, it would go
  on the side of the bully
National Attitudes- Legal Advice
How important is it for both partners making a
 binding pre-nuptial agreement to take legal
 advice?
                                        %
 Very important                         75

 Fairly important                       19

 Not very important                     5
 Not at all important                   1
 Unweighted base    2778

• No gender difference in responses
Imagine a couple Alison and Ben in their
late 20s getting divorced after just 2 years
of marriage. They have no children. Ben
earns £80,000, Alison earns £30,000. Just
before they married Ben inherited £500,000
from his father with which he bought the
family home outright in his sole name.
Under current law, if they had not made a
pre-nuptial agreement, the court would
impose its own solution and Alison would
receive a share of the home - probably
between a quarter and a half its value.
However, in fact, after both taking legal
advice, they did sign a pre-nuptial
agreement agreeing that Ben should keep
the inheritance in the event of divorce.
If they were to go to court, what do you think should
  happen?

                                                    %

The pre-nuptial agreement should be binding.        60

As under current law, the court should impose
a solution which takes the pre-nuptial agreement
into account.                                       40


Unweighted base 2770

•Little gender difference – 61% men and 59% women
agreed it should be binding.
If they had been married 20 years rather than 2, with no
children, would your answer stay the same?


                                                   %

The pre-nuptial agreement should be binding.       46

As under current law, the court should impose
a solution which takes the pre-nuptial agreement
into account.                                      54

Unweighted base 1633

•Gender difference accentuated – 50% men and 40% women
now agreed it should be binding
Over a different amount of years I would think my opinion
would change. So sort of year one, I wouldn't expect to take
anything out of a relationship. Um. Year five, maybe a bit of
it. But by year 25, they’re going off with some young model
and [Laughs] leaving you and they’ve had the best years of
your life together and you were expecting to go into old age
together then, um, yeah: I would … [Laughs] I would go for
half of it, definitely. (Tamzin, married with prenup)

I think it should be binding but …it depends when it’s drafted
and it has to be reviewed properly. (Andrew, married father)
Now imagine the same couple married for 20 years. This
time they have two children aged 20 and 18 who have left
home and are both working. Alison gave up her job to care
for the children and has not gone back to work. They live in
the home Ben bought with the inheritance. Ben is earning
£80,000 a year. The home is now worth £800,000. Again
they had made a pre-nuptial agreement following legal
advice agreeing that Ben should keep the home in the event
of divorce and pay no maintenance.
This time, if they were to go to court, what do you think
should happen?
                                                             %

The prenuptial agreement should be binding.                 16

As under current law, while taking the pre-nup into
account, the court should divide the value of the home
between them in a way that aims
to meet all their needs.                                    84


Unweighted base 2744

•Gender split – 18% men and 12% women agreed it should be
binding
• In the follow-up study, the majority similarly
  agreed that Alison should not be held to the
  pre-nup in these circumstances. Maureen took
  the view that Alison had a raw deal:
• You know, if it was equal, yeah. Fair enough.
  But if it’s like, um, ‘Right, you bring up the
  children. You stay at home. I’ll make all the
  money but the money’s mine’... No, that’s not
  fair. (Maureen)
• However, a number of the men interviewed felt
  that a hard-line approach should be taken if
  pre-nups were to be a workable option:
• Frankly if you’re stupid enough not to have
  covered the fact that you may have two
  children and be married for 25yrs, then well
  you haven’t covered the bases so that’s kind of
  your own fault I think. (Rod)
If, in their pre-nuptial agreement, Ben instead agreed to
provide Alison with accommodation for a five year period
after divorce, but gave her no share in the property, should
the agreement be binding?

                                                           %

Yes, the prenuptial agreement should be binding.         28

No, as under current law, while taking the pre-nup
into account, the court should divide the value
of the home between them in a way that aims to meet
all their needs.                                         72
Unweighted base 2721

•Gender split 38% men and 24% women agree it should be
Should inherited home be shared?

 [Yes.] Because then you’re married. You are a
 unit; you’re not individuals any more and…
 inheritance should count for the unit. It’s like
 getting a bonus at work (Rebecca)

But not necessarily shared equally
Imagine another couple, Colin and Dawn who are in their 40s,
married for 10 years. Colin has run a successful small
business for some years; Dawn works as a model and has a
good income. The couple have an affluent lifestyle but have
no savings or health insurance. They recently purchased a
new home with a 100 per cent mortgage. Colin has a
serious heart attack and cannot work. As a result his
business fails and becomes worthless. Shortly afterwards,
the marriage breaks down.
      They made a pre-nuptial agreement which agrees
neither will claim against the other’s income or business
assets on divorce.
What do you think should happen?

                                                      %

The prenuptial agreement should be binding            32

As under current law, while taking the pre-nup into
account, the court should require Dawn to provide
Colin with some income, at least for a period.        68

Unweighted base 2734

•Gender split – 38% men and 27% women agree it should be
binding
Shifting views of marriage?
• ‘If I was married to someone who became ill, I
  don’t think it would be right for me to run off
  and leave them. That’s my responsibility.’
  (William).
• ‘Well they’ve only been married 10 years, so
  what are you putting on the other party? A life
  sentence to look after a disabled party? (Ellen)
• ‘I don’t like to see people responsible for other
  people once they’ve split up. It doesn’t make
  sense to me.’ (Sean)
A pragmatic response to re-marriage?

• My lawyer who I used for my second divorce,
  he actually sort of talked to me about it,
  because of what I had. He said, you know, “If
  you do enter into a relationship or get married
  again, Leila, do think very seriously about
  having something in writing.” (Leila)
• [It] would protect my son should everything
  fall apart, then at least he would be
  guaranteed what is rightfully his. (Anna,
  divorced, single mother)
New culture of pragmatism?
• Again, to me it is just like an insurance and as
  long as you can talk about it openly and you’re
  quite happy to just discuss any aspect of it, it
  shouldn't cause a problem. (Rebecca, married
  mother)
• It’s like when you write your will for the first
  time. I hate it. I absolutely hate it, because it
  makes me sit there and think about things I
  don’t want to think about. So I think... it’ll
  make them sit down and think about it and
  what they’re entering into. This isn’t just for
  fun. (Leila, divorced mother)
Impractical?
• When I set out, we were committed to having a
  family and having children, and therefore I
  think not knowing whether you can have
  children as you plan, and when you have
  children there are so many unknowns that
  signing anything that organises your… predicts
  your finances seems complete madness to me
  (Clarissa, married mother)
• You're fixing something at a point in time that
  reflects in that particular point in time, you
  don't know how circumstances are going to
  change (Leila, twice divorced, getting pre-nup for 3rd
  marriage)
Inherently unfair?
  The problem of making it binding is there’s no
  flexibility for change of circumstances, so if
  you ask me the question again I think life
  changes and so there ought to be that
  flexibility of interpretation in order to ensure
  that it’s fair, and represents what’s fair at the
  time a couple choose to split. (Clarissa,
  married mother)
• We found older people and women generally
  had reservations about pre-nups, with a very
  strong age correlation on views about the
  longer the marriage the less influence
  appropriate.
A sign of commitment?
When, Dan and I …decided to actually marry
 after being together for quite a while, I
 volunteered that we’d sign a pre-nup
 agreement because I know from his first
 marriage that, he more or less had to start
 from square one again. He left the house, um,
 with all the equity with his wife and, um, you
 know, literally set up from scratch again. So, I
 deemed that that would be unfair should we
 separate after...fairly soon, um, that he should
 lose all the equity he’d got and, um, his
 business and everything, for me to be able to
 say, “I want half” straight away. (Tamzin)
National Attitudes – a minority
activity?
 Thinking of your own marriage (or most recent marriage),
 if the law permitted making binding prenuptial
 agreements, would you have wished to negotiate a
 binding agreement concerning the division of your money
 and property on divorce?
                                              %

 Yes - I would                                20

 No - I would not                             80
 Unweighted base    1550


• Gender split – 21% men and 19% of women agreed
The effect of asking for a pre-nup

• I would have doubted her commitment to the marriage
  (Thomas, married)
• No, I think it would have been a bit of a deal breaker, I
  wouldn’t have gone for that. (Andrew, married father) 
• If Tony said to me about a Pre-Nup I would say, "Oh don't you
  trust me?” (Lydia, cohabiting)
• I must admit I’d be a little bit suspicious why somebody is
  wanting to bring this sort of legal formality in at such a
  stage. (Roger, single) 
• Yes, I’d just think, why do you want a pre-nup? They’re
  doubting me I think, like “Oh you’re going to take this away
  from me”. (Susie, single mother, long term relationship)
Fairness and pre-nups- just
another contract?
 I’m a little bit suspicious of pre-nuptial
 agreements actually because it seems to me
 that there could easily be one side who have
 decided to put this contract out, knowing that
 if the worst does happen, that they can either
 get more than what they should perhaps be
 entitled to or cheat their wife or husband out
 of whatever. So at the end of day I’ve got a
 feeling it shouldn’t perhaps be legally binding
 totally like that, that on the point of divorce
 that there should be considerations made on
 the circumstances at the time. (Roger, single)
Autonomy can be dangerous?
 If it’s something that you sign when you’re
 early/mid/late 20s, with no experience of what it’s
 like, you can’t even anticipate what it’s like, .. to have
 children for your role to change. I remember when I
 was working and I was pregnant for the first time, I
 think I was in denial for the whole nine months
 because I just couldn’t imagine what this little baby
 was… I did go back to work at first because that was
 just what you did, and it was only… and it took a while
 for the changes for me to actually see. In fact it was
 when my son came along two years later and I was
 working full time, and I was doing the lion’s share of
 looking after the children, and it was unsustainable.
 But I couldn’t have seen that seven or eight years
 previously, and I think that the inherent problem is you
 see something with such clarity one moment, and then
 with the passage of time it’s all changed completely
 (Jilly, married mother)
Pre-nups undermining marriage?

 … I think I said this right at the start, if you go
 into a marriage anticipating that marriage
 breakdown it’s just a very strange way to enter
 into a marriage. (Jilly, married mother)
Conclusions
• Attitudes to pre-nups are changing - attitudes
  are becoming more pragmatic and less
  romantic?
• There are clear situations where people think
  they are more appropriate
 ▫   [Short] marriages without children
 ▫   Where there are children of previous relationships
 ▫   Second and subsequent marriages
 ▫   To protect inherited wealth- some ambivalence re
     home
• Some see pre-nups as undermining the essence
  of (first?) marriage bargain
• The longer the marriage, the less appropriate –
  suggestion of automatic expiry raised by many
Conclusions
• Autonomy seen as double-edged, particularly
  for primary carer spouse
• Agreement seen as symbol of commitment by
  some
• Some indication of gendered views on this issue
  and some age variation
• Clear reservations by many where there are
  children and where after time bargaining power
  and autonomy unequal
• Some evidence of inherited wealth being
  regarded as non-matrimonial property
• Further details of the study are in –
• Barlow and Smithson, ‘Is modern marriage a
  bargain?’ [2012] Child and Family Law
  Quarterly 304-319

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Ab final pre nups and the marriage bargain- marriage foundation - feb 2013

  • 1. Pre-nups and the Marriage Bargain: giant step forward or giant step back? Anne Barlow University of Exeter Marriage Foundation Notre Dame University, London 15th February 2013
  • 2. Aims of presentation • To consider research findings of study on public attitudes to binding pre-nuptial agreements • To consider public perceptions on the importance of autonomy in couple relationships • To consider public perceptions of importance post-divorce fairness and pre-nuptial agreements • To reflect on what this means for the ‘marriage bargain’
  • 3. Empirical project • Funded by the Nuffield Foundation, a two phase 12 month empirical study was undertaken to explore attitudes to pre-nuptial agreements and to feed into the Law Commission’s project on marital agreements ▫ First a nationally representative study using structured questionnaires over two phases of the NatCen omnibus in E&W (2,827 respondents) in 2010 ▫ Second a follow up qualitative study was undertaken with a purposive sample of 26 to probe thinking behind these attitudes
  • 4. Research questions • What are public perceptions of pre-nuptial agreements? • How important is the freedom to make such a binding agreement? • Are people ready to use pre-nups culturally? • Are there limits to public acceptability of such agreements?
  • 5. Method • We used a mixture of attitudinal statements plus scenario questions where the impact of the pre-nup was compared with the current law (pre-Radmacher) • These were probed in the follow up qualitative study in semi-structured interviews (post- Radmacher)
  • 6. National Survey Attitude Questions • HOW FAR DO YOU AGREE - • Binding pre-nuptial agreements are a good way of allowing couples to decide privately what should happen in the event of divorce • Binding prenuptial agreements are a bad idea because it is too difficult to predict what will be fair at the end of a marriage • If prenuptial agreements were binding, you would be more likely to marry your current cohabitant partner • The longer the marriage, the less influence pre-nuptial agreements should have on a divorce court
  • 7. Summary of National Views Agree Disagree Neutral 17 14 20 32 20 18 22 53 65 66 58 15 Binding prenups are good way to Binding prenups are bad as can't Binding prenup would make me The longer the marriage, the less privately agree divorce outcome predict what will be fair on divorce marry influence preunps should have
  • 8. Reservations? • Autonomy is therefore attractive, at least superficially, but when probed in the scenarios, people became less sure. Some like Frances, in the qualitative study, thought the courts were inherently fairer because – The courts can look at the whole picture • Jilly was aware of power imbalances - I think if you have a bullying partner, it would go on the side of the bully
  • 9. National Attitudes- Legal Advice How important is it for both partners making a binding pre-nuptial agreement to take legal advice? % Very important 75 Fairly important 19 Not very important 5 Not at all important 1 Unweighted base 2778 • No gender difference in responses
  • 10. Imagine a couple Alison and Ben in their late 20s getting divorced after just 2 years of marriage. They have no children. Ben earns £80,000, Alison earns £30,000. Just before they married Ben inherited £500,000 from his father with which he bought the family home outright in his sole name. Under current law, if they had not made a pre-nuptial agreement, the court would impose its own solution and Alison would receive a share of the home - probably between a quarter and a half its value. However, in fact, after both taking legal advice, they did sign a pre-nuptial agreement agreeing that Ben should keep the inheritance in the event of divorce.
  • 11. If they were to go to court, what do you think should happen? % The pre-nuptial agreement should be binding. 60 As under current law, the court should impose a solution which takes the pre-nuptial agreement into account. 40 Unweighted base 2770 •Little gender difference – 61% men and 59% women agreed it should be binding.
  • 12. If they had been married 20 years rather than 2, with no children, would your answer stay the same? % The pre-nuptial agreement should be binding. 46 As under current law, the court should impose a solution which takes the pre-nuptial agreement into account. 54 Unweighted base 1633 •Gender difference accentuated – 50% men and 40% women now agreed it should be binding
  • 13. Over a different amount of years I would think my opinion would change. So sort of year one, I wouldn't expect to take anything out of a relationship. Um. Year five, maybe a bit of it. But by year 25, they’re going off with some young model and [Laughs] leaving you and they’ve had the best years of your life together and you were expecting to go into old age together then, um, yeah: I would … [Laughs] I would go for half of it, definitely. (Tamzin, married with prenup) I think it should be binding but …it depends when it’s drafted and it has to be reviewed properly. (Andrew, married father)
  • 14. Now imagine the same couple married for 20 years. This time they have two children aged 20 and 18 who have left home and are both working. Alison gave up her job to care for the children and has not gone back to work. They live in the home Ben bought with the inheritance. Ben is earning £80,000 a year. The home is now worth £800,000. Again they had made a pre-nuptial agreement following legal advice agreeing that Ben should keep the home in the event of divorce and pay no maintenance.
  • 15. This time, if they were to go to court, what do you think should happen? % The prenuptial agreement should be binding. 16 As under current law, while taking the pre-nup into account, the court should divide the value of the home between them in a way that aims to meet all their needs. 84 Unweighted base 2744 •Gender split – 18% men and 12% women agreed it should be binding
  • 16. • In the follow-up study, the majority similarly agreed that Alison should not be held to the pre-nup in these circumstances. Maureen took the view that Alison had a raw deal: • You know, if it was equal, yeah. Fair enough. But if it’s like, um, ‘Right, you bring up the children. You stay at home. I’ll make all the money but the money’s mine’... No, that’s not fair. (Maureen)
  • 17. • However, a number of the men interviewed felt that a hard-line approach should be taken if pre-nups were to be a workable option: • Frankly if you’re stupid enough not to have covered the fact that you may have two children and be married for 25yrs, then well you haven’t covered the bases so that’s kind of your own fault I think. (Rod)
  • 18. If, in their pre-nuptial agreement, Ben instead agreed to provide Alison with accommodation for a five year period after divorce, but gave her no share in the property, should the agreement be binding? % Yes, the prenuptial agreement should be binding. 28 No, as under current law, while taking the pre-nup into account, the court should divide the value of the home between them in a way that aims to meet all their needs. 72 Unweighted base 2721 •Gender split 38% men and 24% women agree it should be
  • 19. Should inherited home be shared? [Yes.] Because then you’re married. You are a unit; you’re not individuals any more and… inheritance should count for the unit. It’s like getting a bonus at work (Rebecca) But not necessarily shared equally
  • 20. Imagine another couple, Colin and Dawn who are in their 40s, married for 10 years. Colin has run a successful small business for some years; Dawn works as a model and has a good income. The couple have an affluent lifestyle but have no savings or health insurance. They recently purchased a new home with a 100 per cent mortgage. Colin has a serious heart attack and cannot work. As a result his business fails and becomes worthless. Shortly afterwards, the marriage breaks down. They made a pre-nuptial agreement which agrees neither will claim against the other’s income or business assets on divorce.
  • 21. What do you think should happen? % The prenuptial agreement should be binding 32 As under current law, while taking the pre-nup into account, the court should require Dawn to provide Colin with some income, at least for a period. 68 Unweighted base 2734 •Gender split – 38% men and 27% women agree it should be binding
  • 22. Shifting views of marriage? • ‘If I was married to someone who became ill, I don’t think it would be right for me to run off and leave them. That’s my responsibility.’ (William). • ‘Well they’ve only been married 10 years, so what are you putting on the other party? A life sentence to look after a disabled party? (Ellen) • ‘I don’t like to see people responsible for other people once they’ve split up. It doesn’t make sense to me.’ (Sean)
  • 23. A pragmatic response to re-marriage? • My lawyer who I used for my second divorce, he actually sort of talked to me about it, because of what I had. He said, you know, “If you do enter into a relationship or get married again, Leila, do think very seriously about having something in writing.” (Leila) • [It] would protect my son should everything fall apart, then at least he would be guaranteed what is rightfully his. (Anna, divorced, single mother)
  • 24. New culture of pragmatism? • Again, to me it is just like an insurance and as long as you can talk about it openly and you’re quite happy to just discuss any aspect of it, it shouldn't cause a problem. (Rebecca, married mother) • It’s like when you write your will for the first time. I hate it. I absolutely hate it, because it makes me sit there and think about things I don’t want to think about. So I think... it’ll make them sit down and think about it and what they’re entering into. This isn’t just for fun. (Leila, divorced mother)
  • 25. Impractical? • When I set out, we were committed to having a family and having children, and therefore I think not knowing whether you can have children as you plan, and when you have children there are so many unknowns that signing anything that organises your… predicts your finances seems complete madness to me (Clarissa, married mother) • You're fixing something at a point in time that reflects in that particular point in time, you don't know how circumstances are going to change (Leila, twice divorced, getting pre-nup for 3rd marriage)
  • 26. Inherently unfair? The problem of making it binding is there’s no flexibility for change of circumstances, so if you ask me the question again I think life changes and so there ought to be that flexibility of interpretation in order to ensure that it’s fair, and represents what’s fair at the time a couple choose to split. (Clarissa, married mother) • We found older people and women generally had reservations about pre-nups, with a very strong age correlation on views about the longer the marriage the less influence appropriate.
  • 27. A sign of commitment? When, Dan and I …decided to actually marry after being together for quite a while, I volunteered that we’d sign a pre-nup agreement because I know from his first marriage that, he more or less had to start from square one again. He left the house, um, with all the equity with his wife and, um, you know, literally set up from scratch again. So, I deemed that that would be unfair should we separate after...fairly soon, um, that he should lose all the equity he’d got and, um, his business and everything, for me to be able to say, “I want half” straight away. (Tamzin)
  • 28. National Attitudes – a minority activity? Thinking of your own marriage (or most recent marriage), if the law permitted making binding prenuptial agreements, would you have wished to negotiate a binding agreement concerning the division of your money and property on divorce? % Yes - I would 20 No - I would not 80 Unweighted base 1550 • Gender split – 21% men and 19% of women agreed
  • 29. The effect of asking for a pre-nup • I would have doubted her commitment to the marriage (Thomas, married) • No, I think it would have been a bit of a deal breaker, I wouldn’t have gone for that. (Andrew, married father)  • If Tony said to me about a Pre-Nup I would say, "Oh don't you trust me?” (Lydia, cohabiting) • I must admit I’d be a little bit suspicious why somebody is wanting to bring this sort of legal formality in at such a stage. (Roger, single)  • Yes, I’d just think, why do you want a pre-nup? They’re doubting me I think, like “Oh you’re going to take this away from me”. (Susie, single mother, long term relationship)
  • 30. Fairness and pre-nups- just another contract? I’m a little bit suspicious of pre-nuptial agreements actually because it seems to me that there could easily be one side who have decided to put this contract out, knowing that if the worst does happen, that they can either get more than what they should perhaps be entitled to or cheat their wife or husband out of whatever. So at the end of day I’ve got a feeling it shouldn’t perhaps be legally binding totally like that, that on the point of divorce that there should be considerations made on the circumstances at the time. (Roger, single)
  • 31. Autonomy can be dangerous? If it’s something that you sign when you’re early/mid/late 20s, with no experience of what it’s like, you can’t even anticipate what it’s like, .. to have children for your role to change. I remember when I was working and I was pregnant for the first time, I think I was in denial for the whole nine months because I just couldn’t imagine what this little baby was… I did go back to work at first because that was just what you did, and it was only… and it took a while for the changes for me to actually see. In fact it was when my son came along two years later and I was working full time, and I was doing the lion’s share of looking after the children, and it was unsustainable. But I couldn’t have seen that seven or eight years previously, and I think that the inherent problem is you see something with such clarity one moment, and then with the passage of time it’s all changed completely (Jilly, married mother)
  • 32. Pre-nups undermining marriage? … I think I said this right at the start, if you go into a marriage anticipating that marriage breakdown it’s just a very strange way to enter into a marriage. (Jilly, married mother)
  • 33. Conclusions • Attitudes to pre-nups are changing - attitudes are becoming more pragmatic and less romantic? • There are clear situations where people think they are more appropriate ▫ [Short] marriages without children ▫ Where there are children of previous relationships ▫ Second and subsequent marriages ▫ To protect inherited wealth- some ambivalence re home • Some see pre-nups as undermining the essence of (first?) marriage bargain • The longer the marriage, the less appropriate – suggestion of automatic expiry raised by many
  • 34. Conclusions • Autonomy seen as double-edged, particularly for primary carer spouse • Agreement seen as symbol of commitment by some • Some indication of gendered views on this issue and some age variation • Clear reservations by many where there are children and where after time bargaining power and autonomy unequal • Some evidence of inherited wealth being regarded as non-matrimonial property
  • 35. • Further details of the study are in – • Barlow and Smithson, ‘Is modern marriage a bargain?’ [2012] Child and Family Law Quarterly 304-319

Notes de l'éditeur

  1. Gender breakdown on study, 43% men and 57% women
  2. Base 2280 for all except 3 (cohabs only) = 249
  3. No significant gender differences, Older respondents tended to agree more, Only 55% of those ‘ever divorced’ agreed Note that 66% of those ever divorced agreed. Some gender differences 61% men : 69% women agreed. Of those in relationships, 21% of ‘ever divorced’ and 14% of ‘never divorced agreed. Women far more likely to disagree - 76% compared to 24% of men in that group. Generally, though, women more likely to agree 14% men: 39% women – predominantly young women. 71% ‘of ever’ divorced agreed, some slight gender differences – 65% men: 68% women agree. Very strong age correlation on ‘the longer the marriage, the less influence pre-nup should have. Younger participants more likely to marry cohabitant partner and 14% men as opposed to 39% of women said that.
  4. Agreement almost doubles – this is a ‘needs’ based safety-net being offered here. Over two thirds are not in agreement with Alison being held to this.
  5. No children. Health related issues. Trying to test limits of the marriage bargain.
  6. Clear majority again think that he should have a needs-based solution.
  7. A culture shift is needed, although some who have experienced marriage see it as making a will or taking out insurance.