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Since the Republicans control the House of Representatives,
could Speaker Mike Johnson and the Republicans object to the
seating of some, or maybe all, of the duly elected
Representatives belonging to the Democratic Party?
This has happened in the past, immediately after the end of the
Civil War Congress refused to seat the congressmen elected from
the former states of the Confederacy. We ask this important
question: Is this valid legal precedent today?
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First, some historical background.
In early 1864, Abraham Lincoln was worried that he would lose the election that
November: Civil War casualties were atrocious, and although General Grant was
winning solid victories in the Western theater, capturing Vicksburg in the summer
of 1863, Robert E Lee was winning Southern victories in the more visible Eastern
theater of war around Virginia and surrounding states. But in early 1864, Lincoln
appointed Grant to lead all federal forces, and although the Union Army still
suffered atrocious casualties, Grant relentlessly attacked and flanked Lee’s
Confederate armies, wearing down the Confederacy. Northern morale and
Lincoln’s support surged when General Sherman’s Army burned Atlanta,
commencing their March to the Sea, destroying Confederate resources, and
ensuring that Lincoln would be handily reelected.
https://youtu.be/2hoBOSOBUP8
To ensure his reelection, Abraham Lincoln and the
Republicans selected Andrew Johnson from
Tennessee, a War Democrat, to be Vice-President.
They expected that if Lincoln won, it would be by
narrow margins, so they were more concerned
about Lincoln’s reelection than Johnson’s
qualifications.
Johnson being sworn in by Chief Justice Chase as Cabinet
members look on, April 15, 1865
Unfortunately, after Lincoln was assassinated
shortly after his Inauguration, President Johnson
revealed himself to be a Southern sympathizer
hostile to the civil rights of the newly freed slaves.
The Last Hours of Abraham Lincoln, by Alonzo Chappel, 1868
In the last year of the Civil War, Lincoln had
adopted a lenient plan of Presidential
Reconstruction. Under President Johnson’s plan of
Reconstruction, elections had been held in several
Confederate states. The historian Eric Foner notes
that “many of these senators and representatives-
elect were former Confederate political and military
leaders. Their election, together with the
unwillingness of the Johnson government to
acknowledge the basic rights of the former slaves,
Republicans took as evidence that the white South
did not fully accept the results of Union victory.”
Johnson disposing of Freedmen's
Bureau as African Americans go
flying, by Thomas Nast
Even after their defeat in the Civil War, those running for
office in the former Confederate South insisted on the
right to govern their former slaves in their own way
however they wished, enacting harsh black codes that
effectively re-enslaved blacks freed in the South, denying
their right to vote. Although Mississippi amended its
prewar constitution to abolish slavery, she initially rejected
the Thirteenth Amendment abolishing slavery. This hubris
greatly affected Northern votes and politicians.
Political cartoon
"Of Course He
Wants To Vote The
Democratic Ticket"
(October 1876),
from Harper's
Weekly, showing
Democrats in
Tennessee
intimidating a
voter into voting
for the Democrats
under duress at
gunpoint.
The Deep South, the former Confederate states, was
a brutal place for the freed blacks. Lynching was a
crime that was rarely prosecuted during the
Reconstruction, Redemption, and Jim Crow eras, and
indeed often members of law enforcement wore the
hoods of the KKK. Even when these cases were
prosecuted, rarely would a Southern jury convict a
white person of murder for lynching blacks.
https://youtu.be/sLDHs0AigvY
The history of the Senate recalls that “when the
39th Congress convened on December 4, 1865,
some of the newly elected legislators from
former Confederate states presented credentials,
expecting to be seated in the Senate. Questions
about the validity of the credentials prompted
the House and Senate to establish a Joint
Committee on Reconstruction. This fifteen-
member committee, composed of nine
representatives and six senators, investigated
‘the conditions of the States which formed the
so-called Confederate States of America’ to
determine whether they ‘are entitled to be
represented in either House of Congress.’
Following its investigation, the committee
refused to admit the Southern members.”
Worse than Slavery, by Thomas Nast, 1874
Congress assumed control of Radical Reconstruction. Federal
troops occupied the Southern states, protecting the civil rights of
blacks from the Ku Klux Klan and other white-supremacist
terrorists, and also protecting black suffrage. The Southern states
would not be represented in Congress until they were readmitted
into the Union, a process that took several years. With the
support of federal troops, Lincoln’s Republican Party won election
to state and federal offices in the South, until federal troops were
withdrawn after the disputed federal election of 1876.
https://youtu.be/UciDV5laOLg
Supreme Court Ruling: Seating Congressmen
Adam Clayton Powell with President John F Kennedy, Joseph S Clark, and Elmer J Holland in 1962
Had the law surrounding this issue had not continued to evolve, this
indeed would be a troubling precedent. But the law did evolve, and in
their 1969 Powell v McCormack decision, the Supreme Court under Chief
Justice Earl Warren decided that Congress could deny any duly elected
Representative their seat in Congress only if they did not meet the
narrow list of qualifications for members of the House of Representatives
listed in the Constitution. These qualifications are that the member must
be at least twenty-five-years-old, have been a citizen for seven years, and
live in the district they represent. The House of Representatives had
attempted to refuse to seat Adam Clayton Powell, a controversial black
congressman who was embroiled in credible financial scandals. There
was only one dissent on technical grounds.
Justices of the Supreme Court for 1969 Powell v McCormack decision, Warren Court
Thurgood Marshall was an associate justice for this
1969 decision.
https://youtu.be/fBSNQXDziDU
If the Republicans try to contest the seating of newly
elected Democratic members of the House of
Representatives, they will be challenged in court
immediately. It is doubtful that the courts will refuse to
seat Democratic Congressmen. But those in Congress and
the media need to prepare for this possible battle, and
research the court cases and judicial precedent, and the
recent Supreme Court rulings. This is not wrongly decided
precedent, this precedent must not be overturned.
Current Justices of the Supreme Court, Roberts Court, 2024
How Was Santos Expelled from Congress?
George Santos was expelled under a different provision of
the Constitution, which enables the House of
Representatives to expel any member by a two-thirds
vote. Only six members of the House have been expelled,
including three members who were expelled for
supporting the Confederacy in 1861, the beginning of the
Civil War. Another two were convicted in court, and
Santos’ conviction is assured with the number of
indictments filed against him.
Fake Electors and 1876 Presidential Election
This question came to my mind after several Trump lawyers were
indicted and disbarred from participating in the fake electors scheme in
2020, and several have pleaded guilty in the Georgia RICO case. What is
overlooked is that there was precedent for their efforts to contest the
counting of the Electoral votes on January 6, 2020. The precedent was
when Segregationist Southern Democrats submitted alternate slates of
electors in the contested Election of 1876.
Likely those who forwarded the fake slates of Segregationist Democratic
Party electors to Congress in 1876 were breaking the law, although none
were prosecuted, as many in the South were threatening to restart the
Civil War.
https://youtu.be/Ny0iyVYatB4
A point that confuses many is that under Lincoln, the
Republican Party championed civil rights for the
freed slaves, while the Democratic Party in the Deep
South enacted state Jim Crow segregationist laws.
After Nixon, LBJ, Reagan, and the passage of the Civil
Rights Acts in the 1960’s, most white voters in the
Deep South switched their allegiance from the
Democratic Party to the Republican Party.
Discussing the Sources
Eric Foner’s Second Founding and WEB Du Bois’ Black
Reconstruction provide a window into the Civil War and
Reconstruction Eras, and both challenge the Lost Cause
myth of the noble Confederate Cause and happy black
slaves, instead arguing that the Reconstruction Era sought
to reestablish democracy in both the Deep South and in
America. However, much of the detailed history is from
both the Senate’s website and Dr Wikipedia. These books
have inspired several reflections.
https://youtu.be/CK4V3e-TPFU
https://youtu.be/UciDV5laOLg
https://youtu.be/JeRCM4PAqPk
https://youtu.be/Ny0iyVYatB4
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Can Speaker Mike Johnson and the Republicans refuse to seat validly elected Democrats to the House in 2025?

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  • 2. Since the Republicans control the House of Representatives, could Speaker Mike Johnson and the Republicans object to the seating of some, or maybe all, of the duly elected Representatives belonging to the Democratic Party? This has happened in the past, immediately after the end of the Civil War Congress refused to seat the congressmen elected from the former states of the Confederacy. We ask this important question: Is this valid legal precedent today?
  • 3. Please, we welcome interesting questions in the comments. Let us learn and reflect together! At the end of our talk, we will discuss the sources used for this video. Please feel free to follow along in the PowerPoint script we uploaded to SlideShare, which includes illustrations. Our sister blog includes footnotes, both include our Amazon book links.
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  • 6. To find the source of any direct quotes in this blog, please type in the phrase to the search box in my blog to see the referenced footnote. YouTube Description has links for: • Script PDF file • Blog • Amazon Bookstore © Copyright 2024 Blog and YouTube Description include links for Amazon books and lectures mentioned, please support our channel with these affiliate commissions. Blog: https://wp.me/pachSU-19H
  • 7. First, some historical background. In early 1864, Abraham Lincoln was worried that he would lose the election that November: Civil War casualties were atrocious, and although General Grant was winning solid victories in the Western theater, capturing Vicksburg in the summer of 1863, Robert E Lee was winning Southern victories in the more visible Eastern theater of war around Virginia and surrounding states. But in early 1864, Lincoln appointed Grant to lead all federal forces, and although the Union Army still suffered atrocious casualties, Grant relentlessly attacked and flanked Lee’s Confederate armies, wearing down the Confederacy. Northern morale and Lincoln’s support surged when General Sherman’s Army burned Atlanta, commencing their March to the Sea, destroying Confederate resources, and ensuring that Lincoln would be handily reelected.
  • 9. To ensure his reelection, Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans selected Andrew Johnson from Tennessee, a War Democrat, to be Vice-President. They expected that if Lincoln won, it would be by narrow margins, so they were more concerned about Lincoln’s reelection than Johnson’s qualifications.
  • 10. Johnson being sworn in by Chief Justice Chase as Cabinet members look on, April 15, 1865
  • 11. Unfortunately, after Lincoln was assassinated shortly after his Inauguration, President Johnson revealed himself to be a Southern sympathizer hostile to the civil rights of the newly freed slaves.
  • 12. The Last Hours of Abraham Lincoln, by Alonzo Chappel, 1868
  • 13. In the last year of the Civil War, Lincoln had adopted a lenient plan of Presidential Reconstruction. Under President Johnson’s plan of Reconstruction, elections had been held in several Confederate states. The historian Eric Foner notes that “many of these senators and representatives- elect were former Confederate political and military leaders. Their election, together with the unwillingness of the Johnson government to acknowledge the basic rights of the former slaves, Republicans took as evidence that the white South did not fully accept the results of Union victory.” Johnson disposing of Freedmen's Bureau as African Americans go flying, by Thomas Nast
  • 14. Even after their defeat in the Civil War, those running for office in the former Confederate South insisted on the right to govern their former slaves in their own way however they wished, enacting harsh black codes that effectively re-enslaved blacks freed in the South, denying their right to vote. Although Mississippi amended its prewar constitution to abolish slavery, she initially rejected the Thirteenth Amendment abolishing slavery. This hubris greatly affected Northern votes and politicians.
  • 15. Political cartoon "Of Course He Wants To Vote The Democratic Ticket" (October 1876), from Harper's Weekly, showing Democrats in Tennessee intimidating a voter into voting for the Democrats under duress at gunpoint.
  • 16. The Deep South, the former Confederate states, was a brutal place for the freed blacks. Lynching was a crime that was rarely prosecuted during the Reconstruction, Redemption, and Jim Crow eras, and indeed often members of law enforcement wore the hoods of the KKK. Even when these cases were prosecuted, rarely would a Southern jury convict a white person of murder for lynching blacks.
  • 18. The history of the Senate recalls that “when the 39th Congress convened on December 4, 1865, some of the newly elected legislators from former Confederate states presented credentials, expecting to be seated in the Senate. Questions about the validity of the credentials prompted the House and Senate to establish a Joint Committee on Reconstruction. This fifteen- member committee, composed of nine representatives and six senators, investigated ‘the conditions of the States which formed the so-called Confederate States of America’ to determine whether they ‘are entitled to be represented in either House of Congress.’ Following its investigation, the committee refused to admit the Southern members.” Worse than Slavery, by Thomas Nast, 1874
  • 19. Congress assumed control of Radical Reconstruction. Federal troops occupied the Southern states, protecting the civil rights of blacks from the Ku Klux Klan and other white-supremacist terrorists, and also protecting black suffrage. The Southern states would not be represented in Congress until they were readmitted into the Union, a process that took several years. With the support of federal troops, Lincoln’s Republican Party won election to state and federal offices in the South, until federal troops were withdrawn after the disputed federal election of 1876.
  • 21. Supreme Court Ruling: Seating Congressmen Adam Clayton Powell with President John F Kennedy, Joseph S Clark, and Elmer J Holland in 1962
  • 22. Had the law surrounding this issue had not continued to evolve, this indeed would be a troubling precedent. But the law did evolve, and in their 1969 Powell v McCormack decision, the Supreme Court under Chief Justice Earl Warren decided that Congress could deny any duly elected Representative their seat in Congress only if they did not meet the narrow list of qualifications for members of the House of Representatives listed in the Constitution. These qualifications are that the member must be at least twenty-five-years-old, have been a citizen for seven years, and live in the district they represent. The House of Representatives had attempted to refuse to seat Adam Clayton Powell, a controversial black congressman who was embroiled in credible financial scandals. There was only one dissent on technical grounds.
  • 23. Justices of the Supreme Court for 1969 Powell v McCormack decision, Warren Court
  • 24. Thurgood Marshall was an associate justice for this 1969 decision.
  • 26. If the Republicans try to contest the seating of newly elected Democratic members of the House of Representatives, they will be challenged in court immediately. It is doubtful that the courts will refuse to seat Democratic Congressmen. But those in Congress and the media need to prepare for this possible battle, and research the court cases and judicial precedent, and the recent Supreme Court rulings. This is not wrongly decided precedent, this precedent must not be overturned.
  • 27. Current Justices of the Supreme Court, Roberts Court, 2024
  • 28. How Was Santos Expelled from Congress?
  • 29. George Santos was expelled under a different provision of the Constitution, which enables the House of Representatives to expel any member by a two-thirds vote. Only six members of the House have been expelled, including three members who were expelled for supporting the Confederacy in 1861, the beginning of the Civil War. Another two were convicted in court, and Santos’ conviction is assured with the number of indictments filed against him.
  • 30. Fake Electors and 1876 Presidential Election
  • 31. This question came to my mind after several Trump lawyers were indicted and disbarred from participating in the fake electors scheme in 2020, and several have pleaded guilty in the Georgia RICO case. What is overlooked is that there was precedent for their efforts to contest the counting of the Electoral votes on January 6, 2020. The precedent was when Segregationist Southern Democrats submitted alternate slates of electors in the contested Election of 1876. Likely those who forwarded the fake slates of Segregationist Democratic Party electors to Congress in 1876 were breaking the law, although none were prosecuted, as many in the South were threatening to restart the Civil War.
  • 33. A point that confuses many is that under Lincoln, the Republican Party championed civil rights for the freed slaves, while the Democratic Party in the Deep South enacted state Jim Crow segregationist laws. After Nixon, LBJ, Reagan, and the passage of the Civil Rights Acts in the 1960’s, most white voters in the Deep South switched their allegiance from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.
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  • 36. Eric Foner’s Second Founding and WEB Du Bois’ Black Reconstruction provide a window into the Civil War and Reconstruction Eras, and both challenge the Lost Cause myth of the noble Confederate Cause and happy black slaves, instead arguing that the Reconstruction Era sought to reestablish democracy in both the Deep South and in America. However, much of the detailed history is from both the Senate’s website and Dr Wikipedia. These books have inspired several reflections.
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  • 39. To find the source of any direct quotes in this blog, please type in the phrase to the search box in my blog to see the referenced footnote. YouTube Description has links for: • Script PDF file • Blog • Amazon Bookstore © Copyright 2024 Blog and YouTube Description include links for Amazon books and lectures mentioned, please support our channel with these affiliate commissions. Blog: https://wp.me/pachSU-19H