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Brands at an inflection point
July 2021
“How-to” master business-unusual
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Bill Gates
…business will
change in the next
ten years more than it
has changed for the
last fifty years…
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The business environment shifts over the last ten years…
Consumer
power shift
Market
disruption
Technology/ AI
Brand
disintermediation
Volatile/
fast-paced
world
Consumer-
centricity
New business reality
New challenges
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CHANGES
=
DRIVE
VAUES
EQUITY
VALUE
Market dynamics
Differentiation
Team-integration
The right data
Driving ROI
How change impacts
marketing & the
business operations
T
O
P
I
C
S
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T
O
P
I
C
S
Martech and social media
strategy development
Brand
disintermediation
Consumer-centricity
Brand meaning
& language
Building
challenger brands
Integrating online & offline channels
Disruptor brands,
why they work
how companies
can leverage
that
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An inflection point is
when change is
inevitable,
when the very future
of something is
threatened – where
the natural course of
gravity is decline
= where only a major
disruption can
change the trajectory The convergence of fundamental factors will
determine, fast, whether brands will live or die
At this point, the possibility that they will die is
much higher than the possibility that they will live
Yet many people in business is oblivious to this
issue
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…and the only way to change is
outside the scope of most
companies: during the pandemic,
McKinsey surveyed a few thousand
CEO’s,
89% believed product and service
innovation is the only way through
it…
yet only 21% believed their people
could deliver that
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The role of a brand is and
always was to enable
decision-making
To make a consumer
decide whether one option
to satisfy their needs is a
better option than another
one
This is a most basic thing a
brand must do,
yet it is not enough
anymore
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DRTHOMASBRAND Whilst there is a
paradox in that
consumers are willing
to pay for superior
brands and
innovation,
it also means a lack
of innovation is more
evident
=
this is at the core of
the capability we
require
For years, brand differentiation has
declined
Brand parity is real
Brands are perceived similarly by
consumers
Brand comparisons are easy
The ranking of brand-types &
industry-types have shifted
Brands are disintermediated
Major online retailers increasingly
sell more of their own brands than
of the brands we know
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The way we work with
brands need to
change
Right now,
technology still seems
to work for brands,
increasingly they may
work against brands
Technology undermines brands as
much as they are built by them
The types of brands likely to be
most impacted, are fast-moving-
consumer household goods,
banks, airlines, retailers…
Brands cannot be controlled
Brand monologues move to brand
dialogues
Technology makes trial for new
brands easier and sticky-ness of
brands easier
The Amazon & Alibaba factor
The disruptors
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Constant change is
normal, yet it is a
weakness most
companies have = they
are not agile
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Consumers are
different, brands
cross-boundaries and
there are no
differences between
what is real and what
is not
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The major
drivers for
consumers
The best brand
experience = the
standard for all
brands Convergence and eco-systems
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Brand parity: increasingly
brand are similar in delivery:
inherently they are the same
Increasingly they are also
similar in perceptions
So, why pay more?
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More the
same,
less different
This greatly
undermines
brands
Whilst this trend hold true for
many industries,
we have marketers to blame
for this.
Have we become so insular &
non-consumer centric that
we want consumers to see
the difference between
names that are marginally
different? What does words
like Max or Next mean?
Navel-gazing?
Names only have meaning in
the eyes of consumers; what
we as marketers call them are
irrelevant.
Not sure why I need to say
this in 2021?
Even the very differential axis
is so simplistic!
Then we want to know why
CEOs don’t rate marketing?
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Brand(s) indicate a one-way value move
towards tech, also achieving value unseen to
date by any other brands
This happened fast
Unusual before (except for the odd McDonalds),
they also fast became industry generics (leaders
that set the rules). What took generations now
takes a few years
This means their dominance will remain for long,
if the history of first mover brands remain
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The Amazon-effect:
1. A king/ queen of customer-
centricity with a deep database
2. The pivot for many products
and services
3. A central portal
4. An eco-system
5. Many downstream businesses
enabled
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The Amazon
factor:
AI core,
get-in,
dominate, know =
vertically &
horizontally
expand
Barrier-to entry
Just look how
fast they
dominate!
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CORE DEMO &
BEHAVIOURAL
DATA
Let us play a game: it all started with consumers buying books = now books alone tell us much,
not only who we are, where we live but also what we like
Operations built to
support that,
not operations to
support processes
only ,
no “retro-fitting”
A CONSUMER
UNIVERSE
BASIC DATA, YET CUSTOMER @thecore
BROADER
FINANCIAL
SERVICES
CLOUD
Amazon-
inside
THE LARGEST
BRAND
COMPARATIVE
SITE
CONTENT
PRIME = deep
data, customer
lifetime value
BANKING
CREDIT
CARDS
SERVICES, i.e.
treatments,
TaskRabbit
equivalents
CREDIT
INSURANCE
FRESH
TAKE-OUTS
LOGISTICS
LOGISTICS
ENABLING
FINANCIAL
SERVICES
AI
ROBOTICS
HUB =
expand
&
become
more
&
more
powerful
LOCAL
BUSINESSES
SATELLITES
CONSUMER-
CENTRIC &
AI BASED
SOFTWARE
CONNECT
COMMUNITIES
OWNED
BRANDS
FULLFILMENT
FULLFILMENT
HYPER-
PERSONALISATION
Amazon will compete with most retailers, services, telecoms, media, entertainment, banking, all content, Google,
logistics, AI, customer-centric data insight & management, software and software-as-service, any conceivable
large manufacturer, robotics, marketing services, UX-design, marketing sales channels like Salesforce = all
contained within opted-in customer data regulation
PHYSICAL
STORES
BROADER
ENTERTAINMENT
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Brand comparative sites =
where price and comparative
benefits drive decisions
Forget brand – buy the deal (I
changed gas and electricity supplier
twice in the last 18 months, household
content insurer once)
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Dis-intermediation can also be the other way-around
Retail price comparisons,
happens without me asking
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Brand
disintermediation =
this is totally related
to the above…
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Where I want to be, what I
want, compared to make
my decision easy and fast.
What brand? Brand recedes
very far as these brands
offer the same, price is
more relevant than brand
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Even offer me
related brands,
some not even
brands known to
me as they belong
to the retailer
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Feature
comparisons
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Digital does not equal dots or lines =
digital is a dialogue across dimensions of
breadth, depth, the dynamic within and
between component parts, the way they
cluster and move.
Digital is inherently dynamic with no exact
outcome = it is a language of meaning, not a
predictable matrix where 2X2 now is 3X3
Real digital is invasive, evasive and engaging
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Or lines?
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Do dots make something digital?
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Digital “how”?
Why does digital
matter?
It is not about digital -
it is about the sharing
of meaning in a
manner that creates
dialogue = where the
end-result is an open-
ended dialogue
In what way is the new
VW logo digital???? At
best a stylistically more
modern typeface
It is outdated before it
even starts
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Who made the rules that brands
must look the same? It is
astonishing, still today,
that brands are designed within
a limited template
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Somewhere, someone made a rule that toothpaste needs to be red, white or blue. Or curry powder brown
or yellow. Or butter green, white or yellow. Or crumbed chicken, red, white and black
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After 150 years, we still design
brands the same way = 2X2.
This started with print media,
today a tiny part of media…
yet brand design has not
moved on
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Brand influencers – as though
we are not dictated to by
friends on social media and
through native content,
experts also tell us what to
buy
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There are brands and people that
create languages of meaning –
semiotic analysis will show this:
THIS, in my view, is the dynamic
brands need to move to remain
relevant and dynamic today
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A BRAND is a language of meaning.
It must enable dialogue and engagement.
Whilst Google remains Google and they are lucky as they are in a closed
system, they did create a dynamic engagement with their customers
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In a very different way, actuality and response to news events made
Nando’s this way
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Tim Burton created a style, despite the vastly different movies he designed.
I know the brand of Tim Burton even if it changes every minute
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The New Yorker = a language
of meaning is created
through its component parts
– yet it also sets its degrees
of freedom. Yet, you know
when things jarr
The language of The New Yorker is identifiable yet
dynamic – it engages its intellectual audience
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Deflecting the
inflection point,
some simple
pointers
INNOVATE
BRAND VS TECH VS BRANDS VS TECH
STAY AHEAD, THINK DIFFERENT, ERASE BOUNDARIES
PUT CUSTOMERS AT THE CORE
FOCUS ON NEEDS, NOT INDUSTRIES
CREATE COLLABORATIVE ECOSYSTEMS
LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY, IN ITS OWN RIGHT IT IS NOT A
SOLUTION
CREATIVITY MATTERS
VALUE TO CONSUMERS MATTER
FOLLOW-THE-CONSUMER AS HE/ SHE NAVIGATES THE
PURCHASING LANDSCAPE
RELEVANCE GETS REDEFINED IN DIALOGUE
BE HONEST, HAVE INTEGRITY
STAY IN TOUCH WITH EARLY WARNER MARKETS
RETAIN VS GROWTH OF CUSTOMERS
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Thank
you for
your time
For further information,
please feel free to contact me directly:
t) +44 (0) 779 8693 753
e) thomas@drthomasbrand.com
linkedin.com/in/drthomasbrand
thomasoosthuizen
www.drthomasbrand.com
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A little about me…
Ph.D, Unisa
Diploma in Design Thinking, MIT (distinction)
MDP, University of the Witwatersrand
Digital Marketing, General Academy (top student)
External examiner, 23 Masters’ & Ph.D’s
Projects in 29+ countries
Global multinationals & start-ups
Global Consulting Director, Acceleration, WPP
(London)
Colgate-Palmolive, FCB
Own agency with alternative business model
Marketer, agency strategist & consultant
Trained 850 marketers for the largest telco in AME
“The people who are crazy enough to think they can
change the world are the ones who do.”
– Steve Jobs
Dr. Thomas
Henry
Oosthuiizen
Published a book, “How to build a profitable brand”
Published a monograph on brands
Edited three Academic books on Marketing
Edited articles & judged awards in the US, SA, UK,
Australia, UAE
Produced the most popular TV commercial in SA
(as measured by Kantar in their 35 years of
measurement)
Advertising Man of the Year, SA, 2001
Extra-Ordinary Professor in Business Management,
University of Johannesburg (UJ)
Board member of the Luthuli Museum,
dedicated to the first African Nobel Prize winner

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Brands at an inflection point: do you live or die? The questions to ask, the issues to manage

  • 1. P a g e 1 DRTHOMASBRAND Brands at an inflection point July 2021 “How-to” master business-unusual
  • 2. P a g e 2 DRTHOMASBRAND Bill Gates …business will change in the next ten years more than it has changed for the last fifty years…
  • 3. P a g e 3 DRTHOMASBRAND The business environment shifts over the last ten years… Consumer power shift Market disruption Technology/ AI Brand disintermediation Volatile/ fast-paced world Consumer- centricity New business reality New challenges
  • 4. P a g e 4 DRTHOMASBRAND CHANGES = DRIVE VAUES EQUITY VALUE Market dynamics Differentiation Team-integration The right data Driving ROI How change impacts marketing & the business operations T O P I C S
  • 5. P a g e 5 DRTHOMASBRAND T O P I C S Martech and social media strategy development Brand disintermediation Consumer-centricity Brand meaning & language Building challenger brands Integrating online & offline channels Disruptor brands, why they work how companies can leverage that
  • 6. P a g e 6 DRTHOMASBRAND An inflection point is when change is inevitable, when the very future of something is threatened – where the natural course of gravity is decline = where only a major disruption can change the trajectory The convergence of fundamental factors will determine, fast, whether brands will live or die At this point, the possibility that they will die is much higher than the possibility that they will live Yet many people in business is oblivious to this issue
  • 7. P a g e 7 DRTHOMASBRAND …and the only way to change is outside the scope of most companies: during the pandemic, McKinsey surveyed a few thousand CEO’s, 89% believed product and service innovation is the only way through it… yet only 21% believed their people could deliver that
  • 8. P a g e 8 DRTHOMASBRAND The role of a brand is and always was to enable decision-making To make a consumer decide whether one option to satisfy their needs is a better option than another one This is a most basic thing a brand must do, yet it is not enough anymore
  • 9. P a g e 9 DRTHOMASBRAND Whilst there is a paradox in that consumers are willing to pay for superior brands and innovation, it also means a lack of innovation is more evident = this is at the core of the capability we require For years, brand differentiation has declined Brand parity is real Brands are perceived similarly by consumers Brand comparisons are easy The ranking of brand-types & industry-types have shifted Brands are disintermediated Major online retailers increasingly sell more of their own brands than of the brands we know
  • 10. P a g e 1 0 DRTHOMASBRAND The way we work with brands need to change Right now, technology still seems to work for brands, increasingly they may work against brands Technology undermines brands as much as they are built by them The types of brands likely to be most impacted, are fast-moving- consumer household goods, banks, airlines, retailers… Brands cannot be controlled Brand monologues move to brand dialogues Technology makes trial for new brands easier and sticky-ness of brands easier The Amazon & Alibaba factor The disruptors
  • 11. P a g e 1 1 DRTHOMASBRAND Constant change is normal, yet it is a weakness most companies have = they are not agile
  • 12. P a g e 1 2 DRTHOMASBRAND Consumers are different, brands cross-boundaries and there are no differences between what is real and what is not
  • 13. P a g e 1 3 DRTHOMASBRAND The major drivers for consumers The best brand experience = the standard for all brands Convergence and eco-systems
  • 14. P a g e 1 4 DRTHOMASBRAND Brand parity: increasingly brand are similar in delivery: inherently they are the same Increasingly they are also similar in perceptions So, why pay more?
  • 15. P a g e 1 5 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 16. P a g e 1 6 DRTHOMASBRAND More the same, less different This greatly undermines brands Whilst this trend hold true for many industries, we have marketers to blame for this. Have we become so insular & non-consumer centric that we want consumers to see the difference between names that are marginally different? What does words like Max or Next mean? Navel-gazing? Names only have meaning in the eyes of consumers; what we as marketers call them are irrelevant. Not sure why I need to say this in 2021? Even the very differential axis is so simplistic! Then we want to know why CEOs don’t rate marketing?
  • 17. P a g e 1 7 DRTHOMASBRAND Brand(s) indicate a one-way value move towards tech, also achieving value unseen to date by any other brands This happened fast Unusual before (except for the odd McDonalds), they also fast became industry generics (leaders that set the rules). What took generations now takes a few years This means their dominance will remain for long, if the history of first mover brands remain
  • 18. P a g e 1 8 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 19. P a g e 1 9 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 20. P a g e 2 0 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 21. P a g e 2 1 DRTHOMASBRAND The Amazon-effect: 1. A king/ queen of customer- centricity with a deep database 2. The pivot for many products and services 3. A central portal 4. An eco-system 5. Many downstream businesses enabled
  • 22. P a g e 2 2 DRTHOMASBRAND The Amazon factor: AI core, get-in, dominate, know = vertically & horizontally expand Barrier-to entry Just look how fast they dominate!
  • 23. P a g e 2 3 DRTHOMASBRAND CORE DEMO & BEHAVIOURAL DATA Let us play a game: it all started with consumers buying books = now books alone tell us much, not only who we are, where we live but also what we like Operations built to support that, not operations to support processes only , no “retro-fitting” A CONSUMER UNIVERSE BASIC DATA, YET CUSTOMER @thecore BROADER FINANCIAL SERVICES CLOUD Amazon- inside THE LARGEST BRAND COMPARATIVE SITE CONTENT PRIME = deep data, customer lifetime value BANKING CREDIT CARDS SERVICES, i.e. treatments, TaskRabbit equivalents CREDIT INSURANCE FRESH TAKE-OUTS LOGISTICS LOGISTICS ENABLING FINANCIAL SERVICES AI ROBOTICS HUB = expand & become more & more powerful LOCAL BUSINESSES SATELLITES CONSUMER- CENTRIC & AI BASED SOFTWARE CONNECT COMMUNITIES OWNED BRANDS FULLFILMENT FULLFILMENT HYPER- PERSONALISATION Amazon will compete with most retailers, services, telecoms, media, entertainment, banking, all content, Google, logistics, AI, customer-centric data insight & management, software and software-as-service, any conceivable large manufacturer, robotics, marketing services, UX-design, marketing sales channels like Salesforce = all contained within opted-in customer data regulation PHYSICAL STORES BROADER ENTERTAINMENT
  • 24. P a g e 2 4 DRTHOMASBRAND Brand comparative sites = where price and comparative benefits drive decisions Forget brand – buy the deal (I changed gas and electricity supplier twice in the last 18 months, household content insurer once)
  • 25. P a g e 2 5 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 26. P a g e 2 6 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 27. P a g e 2 7 DRTHOMASBRAND Dis-intermediation can also be the other way-around Retail price comparisons, happens without me asking
  • 28. P a g e 2 8 DRTHOMASBRAND Brand disintermediation = this is totally related to the above…
  • 29. P a g e 2 9 DRTHOMASBRAND Where I want to be, what I want, compared to make my decision easy and fast. What brand? Brand recedes very far as these brands offer the same, price is more relevant than brand
  • 30. P a g e 3 0 DRTHOMASBRAND Even offer me related brands, some not even brands known to me as they belong to the retailer
  • 31. P a g e 3 1 DRTHOMASBRAND Feature comparisons
  • 32. P a g e 3 2 DRTHOMASBRAND Digital does not equal dots or lines = digital is a dialogue across dimensions of breadth, depth, the dynamic within and between component parts, the way they cluster and move. Digital is inherently dynamic with no exact outcome = it is a language of meaning, not a predictable matrix where 2X2 now is 3X3 Real digital is invasive, evasive and engaging
  • 33. P a g e 3 3 DRTHOMASBRAND Or lines?
  • 34. P a g e 3 4 DRTHOMASBRAND Do dots make something digital?
  • 35. P a g e 3 5 DRTHOMASBRAND Digital “how”? Why does digital matter? It is not about digital - it is about the sharing of meaning in a manner that creates dialogue = where the end-result is an open- ended dialogue In what way is the new VW logo digital???? At best a stylistically more modern typeface It is outdated before it even starts
  • 36. P a g e 3 6 DRTHOMASBRAND Who made the rules that brands must look the same? It is astonishing, still today, that brands are designed within a limited template
  • 37. P a g e 3 7 DRTHOMASBRAND Somewhere, someone made a rule that toothpaste needs to be red, white or blue. Or curry powder brown or yellow. Or butter green, white or yellow. Or crumbed chicken, red, white and black
  • 38. P a g e 3 8 DRTHOMASBRAND THE BIG BLUE BLURR
  • 39. P a g e 3 9 DRTHOMASBRAND THE BIG RED BLURR
  • 40. P a g e 4 0 DRTHOMASBRAND After 150 years, we still design brands the same way = 2X2. This started with print media, today a tiny part of media… yet brand design has not moved on
  • 41. P a g e 4 1 DRTHOMASBRAND Brand influencers – as though we are not dictated to by friends on social media and through native content, experts also tell us what to buy
  • 42. P a g e 4 2 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 43. P a g e 4 3 DRTHOMASBRAND There are brands and people that create languages of meaning – semiotic analysis will show this: THIS, in my view, is the dynamic brands need to move to remain relevant and dynamic today
  • 44. P a g e 4 4 DRTHOMASBRAND A BRAND is a language of meaning. It must enable dialogue and engagement. Whilst Google remains Google and they are lucky as they are in a closed system, they did create a dynamic engagement with their customers
  • 45. P a g e 4 5 DRTHOMASBRAND In a very different way, actuality and response to news events made Nando’s this way
  • 46. P a g e 4 6 DRTHOMASBRAND Tim Burton created a style, despite the vastly different movies he designed. I know the brand of Tim Burton even if it changes every minute
  • 47. P a g e 4 7 DRTHOMASBRAND The New Yorker = a language of meaning is created through its component parts – yet it also sets its degrees of freedom. Yet, you know when things jarr The language of The New Yorker is identifiable yet dynamic – it engages its intellectual audience
  • 48. P a g e 4 8 DRTHOMASBRAND Deflecting the inflection point, some simple pointers INNOVATE BRAND VS TECH VS BRANDS VS TECH STAY AHEAD, THINK DIFFERENT, ERASE BOUNDARIES PUT CUSTOMERS AT THE CORE FOCUS ON NEEDS, NOT INDUSTRIES CREATE COLLABORATIVE ECOSYSTEMS LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY, IN ITS OWN RIGHT IT IS NOT A SOLUTION CREATIVITY MATTERS VALUE TO CONSUMERS MATTER FOLLOW-THE-CONSUMER AS HE/ SHE NAVIGATES THE PURCHASING LANDSCAPE RELEVANCE GETS REDEFINED IN DIALOGUE BE HONEST, HAVE INTEGRITY STAY IN TOUCH WITH EARLY WARNER MARKETS RETAIN VS GROWTH OF CUSTOMERS
  • 49. P a g e 4 9 DRTHOMASBRAND Thank you for your time For further information, please feel free to contact me directly: t) +44 (0) 779 8693 753 e) thomas@drthomasbrand.com linkedin.com/in/drthomasbrand thomasoosthuizen www.drthomasbrand.com P a g e 4 9 DRTHOMASBRAND
  • 50. P a g e 5 0 DRTHOMASBRAND A little about me… Ph.D, Unisa Diploma in Design Thinking, MIT (distinction) MDP, University of the Witwatersrand Digital Marketing, General Academy (top student) External examiner, 23 Masters’ & Ph.D’s Projects in 29+ countries Global multinationals & start-ups Global Consulting Director, Acceleration, WPP (London) Colgate-Palmolive, FCB Own agency with alternative business model Marketer, agency strategist & consultant Trained 850 marketers for the largest telco in AME “The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.” – Steve Jobs Dr. Thomas Henry Oosthuiizen Published a book, “How to build a profitable brand” Published a monograph on brands Edited three Academic books on Marketing Edited articles & judged awards in the US, SA, UK, Australia, UAE Produced the most popular TV commercial in SA (as measured by Kantar in their 35 years of measurement) Advertising Man of the Year, SA, 2001 Extra-Ordinary Professor in Business Management, University of Johannesburg (UJ) Board member of the Luthuli Museum, dedicated to the first African Nobel Prize winner