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The new law of copyright in Australia
       Warwick A Rothnie
           Barrister
     Victorian Society of Computers & Law
                  13 July 2009




                                            http://ipwars.com
Nine’s Weekly Schedule   http://ipwars.com
Classification
Paper Programming
       Grid                                                   Synopsis

                    Master Paper Grid                      Catalogue No.

                                                             Marketing
Excel Spreadsheet
                                    9 database




                                                 Weekly Schedule



                                                                     Aggregated Guides
                                                                            Aggregators



                        - 4 weeks                - 17 to 14 days            - 10 days
                                                                              http://ipwars.com
http://ipwars.com
http://ipwars.com
http://ipwars.com
Leslie v J.Young & Sons

GA Cramp & Sons Ltd v Frank Smythson Ltd

Victoria Park Racing v Taylor
                          3
                          12
                          4

                                           http://ipwars.com
‘compilation’ added to 1911 Act

Spicer Committee 1959 ...

Desktop (2001) 55 IPR 1 at [439]



                                   http://ipwars.com
It has been held that copyright may exist in
various compilations such as an alphabetical
list of railway stations, a list of fox-hounds
and hunting dogs and lists of stock exchange
prices and football fixtures. ....

We think that the law in this regard should
not be changed.
                                               [77]


                                           http://ipwars.com
... the originality in Telstra's compilations lies
in the labour and expense involved in
compiling the information, ...

Desktop had taken a substantial part of each
of Telstra's copyright works.

It is not to the point that Desktop may not
have adopted Telstra's mode of
presentation ....
                                         Desktop at [439]
                                                  http://ipwars.com
Meanwhile:
• Feist v Rural Telephone Service (1991 -
   USA)
• Tele-Direct v American Business Information
   (1997 - Canada)
• Directive 96/9/EC on the Legal
  Protection of Databases
 • compilation other than a database (1997
    - UK)
                                            http://ipwars.com
... the skill and labour in selecting and
arranging programming should not be regarded
as separate and discrete from the extremely
modest skill and labour involved in setting down
on paper the programs already selected and
presenting them in the form of the Weekly
Schedules.
... were part of a single process ....
                                              [128]


                                            http://ipwars.com
Any reproduction of the time and title
information in the IceGuide was not a
reproduction of a substantial part of any of
the Weekly Schedules (or the Nine
Database).
                                  [56], [185] (+ [123])




                                               http://ipwars.com
2


    http://ipwars.com
Weekly Schedules as a composite whole are
original

• selection and presentation of time and
  title + additional program info and
  synopses
                                             [152]

• orderly arrangement of elements ...
  choices were made about what programs
  were included
                                               [41]

                                           http://ipwars.com
Copyright does not protect facts or
information.

Copyright protects the particular form of
expression of the information, namely the
words, figures and symbols in which the
pieces of information are expressed, and the
selection and arrangement of that
information.

... crucial part of the balance ...   [28], [102]

                                          http://ipwars.com
one has to show –

   what is taken is a substantial part of the
   whole copyright work
                                        [52], [169]




                                           http://ipwars.com
skill and labour in program selection –
‘preparatory’ skill and labour – was not
relevant
                               [52 -54], [167, 125 - 128]




                                                  http://ipwars.com
No – extremely modest – skill and labour
in setting down the time and title
information in chronological order: ...




                                      http://ipwars.com
•   baldly stated matters of fact/intention
    are inseparable from/co-extensive with
    their expression
                                               [170]

                                [54] see [42] - [43]

•   no animus furandi
                                     [171] – [184]




                                             http://ipwars.com
Milwell v Olympic (1999) 43 IPR 32
                           http://ipwars.com
Footnote 21 (66)




                   http://ipwars.com
Some other thoughts

• Balance / competition concerns
• Significance of 2 judgments
  - subsistence if originates?           [33], [48]

  - not substantial just because originates
                                        [37] - [38]


                                           http://ipwars.com
Classification

                           Synopsis

                        Catalogue No.

                          Marketing

9 database




             Weekly Schedule



                                   Aggregated Guides
                                         Aggregators


       [23] vs [95] - [106], [150] - [152]
                                             http://ipwars.com
Team Sheet
 Ponting                   1
  Clarke                   2
  Katich                   3
 Hughes                    4
  Hussey                   5
  North                    6
  Haddin                   7
 Hauritz                   8
Hilfenhaus                 9
  Siddle                  10
 Johnson                  11
    Lee                   12
                               http://ipwars.com
One final point ...
187. ... this Court [should], to the
contrary of Desktop Marketing, affirm
that there must be “creative spark” or
exercise of “skill and judgment” before
a work is sufficiently “original” for the
subsistence of copyright.


                                      http://ipwars.com
It is by no means apparent that the law even before
the 1911 Act was to any different effect to that for
which the Digital Alliance contends.

Desktop Marketing ... out of line with the
understanding of copyright law over many years.

? Desktop ‘labour and expense’ per se

However ....

                                                    [188]
                                                  http://ipwars.com
http://ipwars.com

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IceTV The New Law of Copyright in Australia

  • 1. IceTV The new law of copyright in Australia Warwick A Rothnie Barrister Victorian Society of Computers & Law 13 July 2009 http://ipwars.com
  • 2. Nine’s Weekly Schedule http://ipwars.com
  • 3. Classification Paper Programming Grid Synopsis Master Paper Grid Catalogue No. Marketing Excel Spreadsheet 9 database Weekly Schedule Aggregated Guides Aggregators - 4 weeks - 17 to 14 days - 10 days http://ipwars.com
  • 7. Leslie v J.Young & Sons GA Cramp & Sons Ltd v Frank Smythson Ltd Victoria Park Racing v Taylor 3 12 4 http://ipwars.com
  • 8. ‘compilation’ added to 1911 Act Spicer Committee 1959 ... Desktop (2001) 55 IPR 1 at [439] http://ipwars.com
  • 9. It has been held that copyright may exist in various compilations such as an alphabetical list of railway stations, a list of fox-hounds and hunting dogs and lists of stock exchange prices and football fixtures. .... We think that the law in this regard should not be changed. [77] http://ipwars.com
  • 10. ... the originality in Telstra's compilations lies in the labour and expense involved in compiling the information, ... Desktop had taken a substantial part of each of Telstra's copyright works. It is not to the point that Desktop may not have adopted Telstra's mode of presentation .... Desktop at [439] http://ipwars.com
  • 11. Meanwhile: • Feist v Rural Telephone Service (1991 - USA) • Tele-Direct v American Business Information (1997 - Canada) • Directive 96/9/EC on the Legal Protection of Databases • compilation other than a database (1997 - UK) http://ipwars.com
  • 12. ... the skill and labour in selecting and arranging programming should not be regarded as separate and discrete from the extremely modest skill and labour involved in setting down on paper the programs already selected and presenting them in the form of the Weekly Schedules. ... were part of a single process .... [128] http://ipwars.com
  • 13. Any reproduction of the time and title information in the IceGuide was not a reproduction of a substantial part of any of the Weekly Schedules (or the Nine Database). [56], [185] (+ [123]) http://ipwars.com
  • 14. 2 http://ipwars.com
  • 15. Weekly Schedules as a composite whole are original • selection and presentation of time and title + additional program info and synopses [152] • orderly arrangement of elements ... choices were made about what programs were included [41] http://ipwars.com
  • 16. Copyright does not protect facts or information. Copyright protects the particular form of expression of the information, namely the words, figures and symbols in which the pieces of information are expressed, and the selection and arrangement of that information. ... crucial part of the balance ... [28], [102] http://ipwars.com
  • 17. one has to show – what is taken is a substantial part of the whole copyright work [52], [169] http://ipwars.com
  • 18. skill and labour in program selection – ‘preparatory’ skill and labour – was not relevant [52 -54], [167, 125 - 128] http://ipwars.com
  • 19. No – extremely modest – skill and labour in setting down the time and title information in chronological order: ... http://ipwars.com
  • 20. baldly stated matters of fact/intention are inseparable from/co-extensive with their expression [170] [54] see [42] - [43] • no animus furandi [171] – [184] http://ipwars.com
  • 21. Milwell v Olympic (1999) 43 IPR 32 http://ipwars.com
  • 22. Footnote 21 (66) http://ipwars.com
  • 23. Some other thoughts • Balance / competition concerns • Significance of 2 judgments - subsistence if originates? [33], [48] - not substantial just because originates [37] - [38] http://ipwars.com
  • 24. Classification Synopsis Catalogue No. Marketing 9 database Weekly Schedule Aggregated Guides Aggregators [23] vs [95] - [106], [150] - [152] http://ipwars.com
  • 25. Team Sheet Ponting 1 Clarke 2 Katich 3 Hughes 4 Hussey 5 North 6 Haddin 7 Hauritz 8 Hilfenhaus 9 Siddle 10 Johnson 11 Lee 12 http://ipwars.com
  • 26. One final point ... 187. ... this Court [should], to the contrary of Desktop Marketing, affirm that there must be “creative spark” or exercise of “skill and judgment” before a work is sufficiently “original” for the subsistence of copyright. http://ipwars.com
  • 27. It is by no means apparent that the law even before the 1911 Act was to any different effect to that for which the Digital Alliance contends. Desktop Marketing ... out of line with the understanding of copyright law over many years. ? Desktop ‘labour and expense’ per se However .... [188] http://ipwars.com