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Ideas, Evidence and Argument 
Developing dialogic teaching
“ Knowing why the wrong idea 
is wrong matters just as much as 
Knowing why the right idea is 
right”
What is dialogic teaching? 
Collective: teachers and children address learning tasks together, as a 
group or as a class. 
Reciprocal: teachers and children listen to each other, share ideas and 
consider alternative viewpoints. 
Supportive: children articulate their ideas freely, without fear of 
embarrassment over "wrong" answers; and they help each other to 
reach common understandings. 
Cumulative: teachers and children build on their own and each other's 
ideas and chain them into coherent lines of thinking and enquiry. 
Purposeful: teachers plan and steer classroom talk with specific 
educational goals which are chosen based on prior lessons.
Learning goals 
• Cognitive learning goals – Ability to reason 
and think 
• Epistemic learning goals – “How do we know” 
• Social learning goals – Develop use of subject 
specific language and terminology, interaction 
and listening.
Structure 
• My idea is….. 
• The evidence to support my idea is….. 
• This evidence supports my idea because….. 
• Arguments against my idea are….. 
• I would convince someone who doesn’t 
believe me by…….
Statement 
Agree/Disagree/ 
Unsure 
Evidence 
Salty water is a compound 
Air is a mixture of different 
elements and/or compounds 
Elements have only one type of 
atom in them 
Elements can join together to 
form compounds 
Pure substances are substances 
that don't have harmful things in 
them
Food miles 
Using the information you have found out do you think it 
is ok to carry on importing fruit and vegetables into the 
UK or should we use alternative local sources? 
Give examples to support your ideas. 
You must relate to: 
• The Environment. 
• The Economy. 
• Society. 
Each person in your group must be finding out 
information about one of these and collecting strong 
evidence to SUPPORT your argument.
Extended project 
The aim of the exercise is for 
pupils to generate 
arguments for and against 
the funding of a new zoo. 
In this activity pupils have 
the opportunity to: 
• Generate ideas 
• Learn to use evidence to 
justify conclusions 
• Construct arguments 
collaboratively 
Stimulation Q’s. 
• Are wild animals killed by 
hunters and poachers? 
• Are animals in Zoos well 
fed? 
• Can zoos release animals 
back to the wild? 
• Would animals have 
become extinct of it 
wasn’t for zoos? 
• Do Zoos allow scientists 
to study rare animals?
Toulmin Model of Argument
The purpose 
• The aim is to establish a way of thinking for 
students which encourages them to check they 
have all the facts necessary before making a final 
conclusion. 
• In line with PEED. 
• Gives individuals a clear structure to work 
through. 
• Can encourage motivation and enjoyment in 
lessons.
Links 
• http://www.robinalexander.org.uk/dialogic-teaching/

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Discussion and arguments in Science

  • 1. Ideas, Evidence and Argument Developing dialogic teaching
  • 2. “ Knowing why the wrong idea is wrong matters just as much as Knowing why the right idea is right”
  • 3. What is dialogic teaching? Collective: teachers and children address learning tasks together, as a group or as a class. Reciprocal: teachers and children listen to each other, share ideas and consider alternative viewpoints. Supportive: children articulate their ideas freely, without fear of embarrassment over "wrong" answers; and they help each other to reach common understandings. Cumulative: teachers and children build on their own and each other's ideas and chain them into coherent lines of thinking and enquiry. Purposeful: teachers plan and steer classroom talk with specific educational goals which are chosen based on prior lessons.
  • 4. Learning goals • Cognitive learning goals – Ability to reason and think • Epistemic learning goals – “How do we know” • Social learning goals – Develop use of subject specific language and terminology, interaction and listening.
  • 5. Structure • My idea is….. • The evidence to support my idea is….. • This evidence supports my idea because….. • Arguments against my idea are….. • I would convince someone who doesn’t believe me by…….
  • 6. Statement Agree/Disagree/ Unsure Evidence Salty water is a compound Air is a mixture of different elements and/or compounds Elements have only one type of atom in them Elements can join together to form compounds Pure substances are substances that don't have harmful things in them
  • 7. Food miles Using the information you have found out do you think it is ok to carry on importing fruit and vegetables into the UK or should we use alternative local sources? Give examples to support your ideas. You must relate to: • The Environment. • The Economy. • Society. Each person in your group must be finding out information about one of these and collecting strong evidence to SUPPORT your argument.
  • 8. Extended project The aim of the exercise is for pupils to generate arguments for and against the funding of a new zoo. In this activity pupils have the opportunity to: • Generate ideas • Learn to use evidence to justify conclusions • Construct arguments collaboratively Stimulation Q’s. • Are wild animals killed by hunters and poachers? • Are animals in Zoos well fed? • Can zoos release animals back to the wild? • Would animals have become extinct of it wasn’t for zoos? • Do Zoos allow scientists to study rare animals?
  • 9. Toulmin Model of Argument
  • 10. The purpose • The aim is to establish a way of thinking for students which encourages them to check they have all the facts necessary before making a final conclusion. • In line with PEED. • Gives individuals a clear structure to work through. • Can encourage motivation and enjoyment in lessons.