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Innovation in France 
and Immunology 
• Innovation in « Laboratory Medicine 
at the clinical interface »? 
– Historical french context in university 
hospitals 
– Examples of disruptive innovations 
using flow cytometry 
• Is there still room for innovation? 
– « It's difficult not to be pessimistic » 
• But, there are hopes
Once upon a time.... 1958 
Ordonnances Debré Triple threat 
La ministre a indiqué que les professeurs universitaires-praticiens hospitaliers doivent être en mesure 
d'exercer leurs trois missions à un même niveau d'excellence afin de transférer le plus tôt possible 
l'innovation liée à la recherche vers les soins aux patients. 
Teaching, Medical duties, Research... 
and administration
Recherche clinique/Clinical research 
Laws Huriet 1988-2004-2009 
Laws HPST 
• Claude Bernard 
• Clinical Research 
– Physiopathology 
– Classification 
– DIAGNOSTICS 
– THERAPEUTICS (Clinical trials) 
– ETHICS
Non-interventional 
Clinical trials = Interventionals 
Different from research where medical strategy is not defined 
by a protocol but is based on current medical practice 
Ce terme marque bien la distinction avec la recherche ou les études dites « non interventionnelles » qui sont « de 
s recherches pour lesquelles la stratégie médicale destinée à une personne qui se prête à la 
recherche n'est pas fixée à l'avance par un protocole et relève de la pratique courante » (Code 
de la santé publique)
Autoimmunity 
• Individual patients 
– Sm (anti-Smith) 
• Follow-up of individuals, of groups 
of patients 
• Collection of sera, cells.. 
• Analysis of molecular specificities 
– Journal of Case Reports, BMJ... 
• Autoantibody markers in 
neurobiology (A Vincent)
Flow Cytometry developments 
• From Ig/rosettes in the 80's to 
inumerable MoAbs (363 CDs) 
• Development technologics 
– From a full room to benchtop and 
POCT? 
– From oligoparametric to 
multiparametric flow cytometry
Clinical Research 
• GEIL/GOELAMS/EGIL/ELN/ESF 
– Publications, Communications, meetings 
– Network structuration of national and 
european groups 
– WP10 diagnosis 
– International Immunological Leukemia 
classifications 
– GEIL particpation in HLDA 2010 (Mutual 
benefits of B-ALL and HLDA/HDCM 
Immunology Letters 2011)
Multiparametric flow cytometry 
MC Béné, on behalf of GEIL, GTLLF, GOELAMS 
Normal Bone marrow 
Minimal Residual Disease 
Rare events: detection and quantification 
in « bermudes » 
CD13 SSC 
CD34 CD45
With patients'help 
From immune deficiencies (congenital, 
acquired) to every medical specialty? 
Rheumatology, Oncology, Neurology.. 
Haematology 
From phenotypes to rare events detection 
and quantification and cytokine 
signatures
Marqueurs phénotypiques et signatures fonctionnelles 
Diversités fonctionnelles associées 
• migration vers les tissus lymphoïdes et non 
lymphoïdes 
• prolifération, sécrétion cytokinique et cytotoxicité 
(cellules trop différentiées vs TCM) 
Pantaleo et al. Nature Reviews Immunology 6, 417–42
Identification and quantification of malignant cells 
(CSFTCs) in cerebrospinal fluid : 
GC Faure, Q Tu (Nancytomique- Nancy), 
E Le Rhun (Lille) 
Diagnosis of leptomeningeal metastases (LM) 
in patients with solid tumors (breast, lung, 
prostate...) and melanomas remains difficult. 
Usual diagnostic methods of cytomorphological 
assessment of cerebro-spinal fluid (CSF) 
and gadolinium enhanced MRI lack both 
specificity and sensitivity.
Methods 
CellTracksâ 
AutoPrepâ System 
• CellSave® tubes allowing multicentric 
studies 
• CellSearch® Veridex 
– Cell Tracks AutoPrep 
– Analyzer II... Multispectral imaging 
• CellTracks® CTCs and CMC kits 
– EpCAM enrichment, KT label, CD45 
• Validation on image galeries 
CellTracksâ 
Analyzer II 
Breast Lung Melanoma 
Cancer type 
Tumor cells / 5mL LCR 
100000 
10000 
1000 
100 
10 
1 
0,1
LM and « CSFTCs » in Breast 
Cancer (BMC Clinical Pathology 2012) 
• Detection 
• Quantification: 1 to 103-4 
• Characterization 
– Her2-Neu 
Specificity: no contaminating ependymal cells 
Sensitivity: detection and quantification in all 
established LM patients studied compared to 
cytology 
High homogeneity (and reproducibility) of 
images 
High purity compared to blood samples
Sequential analysis of CSFTCs 
confirms repetability of numerations 
with two subgroups (high > 700/mL vs low) 
BMC Clin Pathol 2012 
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 
Sample number 
Tumoral cells / 5 mL LCR 
100000 
10000 
1000 
100 
10 
1 
0,1 
DM CTC 
WA CTC 
CJ CTC 
DMB CTC 
VT CTC 
PV CTC 
BE CTC 
CS CTC 
HE CMC 
ST CMC 
DC CTC
Melanoma CSFMCs 
Medical Oncology 2013; 
• CMC kit (J&J, VERIDEX) 
– CD146 capture, MEL14 , CD45 
• Four patients 9 points 
• Good reproducibility during follow-up 
• Cell morphology of melanoma cells in CSF far 
better than in blood
LUNG Cancer 
CSFTCs + CSFTMs 
Cytomorphology: cell galleries 
allow to differentiate SCLC, NSCLC 
(adenocarcinoma, squamous carcinoma) 
and detect apoptosis, autophagy... 
• Numerous CTMs in some NSCLC patients 
up to 80%, in sequential study
CSFTCs: a new frontier! 
• Tumoral (epithelial) cells can be detected 
and quantified in CSF with the CellSearch® 
technology (CSFTCs) 
• Their numbers can be sequentially followed-up 
in breast, lung and other cancers 
– allowing to evaluate the efficacy of 
treatments (intrathecal and/or systemic) 
• Tumoral cell population in CSF might be 
different from blood CTCs, allowing further 
studies of metastatic properties 
• CSFMCs can also be detected and quantified in 
CSF
… impossible to-day 
for ethical reasons 
in clinical research protocols 
• Implementation of regulations by 
administrations 
Samples for research! 
– Blood (Serum), Bone Marrow, CSF 
• Ethical constraints: pain, potential 
risks... 
– Patients'information with excessive 
precautionary principle 
– Collections' regulations:potential 
genetical studies, destruction of 
samples
...impossible 
for strict implementation of 
regulations of medical devices 
Use of unvalidated research only 
reagents 
Absence of previous clinical publication 
… to CE labelling requirements of 
everything used in IVDs 
(Pseudo) Quality control of research 
protocols by non-medics 
Exclusion of biologists from IVD clinical 
trials initiative!
… impossible 
For costs of research 
• Exchange of « free » innovative 
reagents 
• Lack of funding for human-based 
IVDs research 
• to Crowdfunding?
Consequences for clinical 
research in University Hospitals 
• Clinical research 
– Administration 
– Regression of biologists initiative 
– Strict clinical trials or Medical devices 
procedures applied to IVDs assays 
developments... although non 
interventional 
– Destruction of sera and cell 
collections 
– Decrease of LDTs developments
Consequences for Laboratory 
Hospitals 
• Implementation of Quality 
procedures in University Hospitals 
CE labelling, Procedures 
Total Laboratory Automation 
Industry based only 
• Policy of reducing costs of 
healthcare 
– Biology is a commodity , first to be 
strangled? 
– Outsourcing
Consequences For individuals 
For medical lab people 
Administrative burden 
Stress and burnout, Demotivation 
For technicians 
Procedures + commercial kits usage 
Loss of competences of technicians for research 
For future medical pathologists 
Less attractivity 
Teaching and Learning 
No hands on experience of trainees
Some hopes in a troubled 
setting 
• Access to information 
– Curation tools to surf information 
overload (Scoop.it story) 
– Networking 
• Growing awareness of an evolving 
situation previously hidden 
• Article Clin Chemistry 2015 
• USA: CDC CLICH 
• USA: LDTs discussion (Congress, FDA...) 
• USA: AJCP to attract young people 
• Africa and Asia... 
• From Big Data to knowledge network
Access to information 
• Scoop.it 
– Curation tool 
– Among Immunological Topics 
– Medical Biopathology and Laboratory 
Medicine 
• On behalf of UEMS and EFLM DL/eL 
• http://www.scoop.it/t/medical-biopathology- 
and-laboratory-medicine
Extracts of Clin Chemistry 2015 
A more service and less academically 
oriented profession? 
We are on the same way of thinking... 
• « I have always strongly believed that the 
triad of clinical service, teaching and 
research should be the basis of laboratory 
medicine profession » (Mauro Panteghini)
Extracts of Clin Chemistry 
A more service and less academically 
oriented profession: Situation analysis 
• In UK (France... Italy, Australia), it 
is difficult not to be pessimistic... 
(Ian Young) 
– The triple threat laboratory medicine professor 
has almost disappeared... (IY) 
– There is a loss of training positions (MO) 
– There is a reduction of technical and academic 
personnel and research infrastructure (MO) 
– There is a danger that the focus becomes the 
economies of the service rather than underlying 
value of a quality pathology service... managed 
by an organizational culture encouraging 
quality, innovation and a clinical focus (Ken 
Sikaris)
What should be done? 
« Important to increase the awareness 
of the academic discipline by the 
public , by hospital and university 
administrators and health policy 
makers » (Michael Oellerich) 
This meeting, other meetings 
Actions of Medical and Biology societies
CDC 
Number of biological assays 
• CLIHCs 
Impact on Patient Care 
CLIHCTM’s current focus explores the challenges clinicians 
face for appropriate laboratory test selection and 
result interpretation. Solutions for these challenges 
will improve utilization of laboratory services and a 
reduce diagnostic and treatment errors and delays.
LDTs from CLIA to FDA 
Among other topics, the U.S. House Energy & Commerce 
Subcommittee on Health 
heard stakeholder opinions on whether lab-developed tests 
(LDTs) are a service or a medical product and whether the 
FDA’s proposed LDT regulation framework complements 
the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments (CLIA) 
on September 9, 2014.
ASCP: Leading edge 
Attracting people (sept 2014) 
..... they highlight the need for medical laboratory 
professionals, an important step in the effort to attract 
the best and the brightest to the laboratory workforce. 
“Essentially 100 percent of the patients entering hospitals 
across the United States today are dependent upon the 
work of the medical laboratory team,” Chakkaphak says in 
the special. 
ASCP collaborated with Leading Edge to create the segment, 
which is part of ASCP’s outreach to elevate awareness of 
the profession and build the future workforce.
A global world 
is a challenge for infectious diseases 
and might be an opportunity 
• Africa/Asia... 
– Scientific meetings 
– CME/CPD
Knowledge network 
opportunity of Big Data 
Team Science medicine.. For Rare 
Diseases and Personalized medicine 
• US Nat Acad Sci 
Metcalfe's law and the biology information 
commons 
Stephen H Friend & 
Nature Biotechnology 31, 297–303 (2013) doi:10.1038/nbt.2555 
Published online 05 April 2013

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  • 1. Innovation in France and Immunology • Innovation in « Laboratory Medicine at the clinical interface »? – Historical french context in university hospitals – Examples of disruptive innovations using flow cytometry • Is there still room for innovation? – « It's difficult not to be pessimistic » • But, there are hopes
  • 2. Once upon a time.... 1958 Ordonnances Debré Triple threat La ministre a indiqué que les professeurs universitaires-praticiens hospitaliers doivent être en mesure d'exercer leurs trois missions à un même niveau d'excellence afin de transférer le plus tôt possible l'innovation liée à la recherche vers les soins aux patients. Teaching, Medical duties, Research... and administration
  • 3. Recherche clinique/Clinical research Laws Huriet 1988-2004-2009 Laws HPST • Claude Bernard • Clinical Research – Physiopathology – Classification – DIAGNOSTICS – THERAPEUTICS (Clinical trials) – ETHICS
  • 4. Non-interventional Clinical trials = Interventionals Different from research where medical strategy is not defined by a protocol but is based on current medical practice Ce terme marque bien la distinction avec la recherche ou les études dites « non interventionnelles » qui sont « de s recherches pour lesquelles la stratégie médicale destinée à une personne qui se prête à la recherche n'est pas fixée à l'avance par un protocole et relève de la pratique courante » (Code de la santé publique)
  • 5. Autoimmunity • Individual patients – Sm (anti-Smith) • Follow-up of individuals, of groups of patients • Collection of sera, cells.. • Analysis of molecular specificities – Journal of Case Reports, BMJ... • Autoantibody markers in neurobiology (A Vincent)
  • 6. Flow Cytometry developments • From Ig/rosettes in the 80's to inumerable MoAbs (363 CDs) • Development technologics – From a full room to benchtop and POCT? – From oligoparametric to multiparametric flow cytometry
  • 7. Clinical Research • GEIL/GOELAMS/EGIL/ELN/ESF – Publications, Communications, meetings – Network structuration of national and european groups – WP10 diagnosis – International Immunological Leukemia classifications – GEIL particpation in HLDA 2010 (Mutual benefits of B-ALL and HLDA/HDCM Immunology Letters 2011)
  • 8. Multiparametric flow cytometry MC Béné, on behalf of GEIL, GTLLF, GOELAMS Normal Bone marrow Minimal Residual Disease Rare events: detection and quantification in « bermudes » CD13 SSC CD34 CD45
  • 9. With patients'help From immune deficiencies (congenital, acquired) to every medical specialty? Rheumatology, Oncology, Neurology.. Haematology From phenotypes to rare events detection and quantification and cytokine signatures
  • 10. Marqueurs phénotypiques et signatures fonctionnelles Diversités fonctionnelles associées • migration vers les tissus lymphoïdes et non lymphoïdes • prolifération, sécrétion cytokinique et cytotoxicité (cellules trop différentiées vs TCM) Pantaleo et al. Nature Reviews Immunology 6, 417–42
  • 11. Identification and quantification of malignant cells (CSFTCs) in cerebrospinal fluid : GC Faure, Q Tu (Nancytomique- Nancy), E Le Rhun (Lille) Diagnosis of leptomeningeal metastases (LM) in patients with solid tumors (breast, lung, prostate...) and melanomas remains difficult. Usual diagnostic methods of cytomorphological assessment of cerebro-spinal fluid (CSF) and gadolinium enhanced MRI lack both specificity and sensitivity.
  • 12. Methods CellTracksâ AutoPrepâ System • CellSave® tubes allowing multicentric studies • CellSearch® Veridex – Cell Tracks AutoPrep – Analyzer II... Multispectral imaging • CellTracks® CTCs and CMC kits – EpCAM enrichment, KT label, CD45 • Validation on image galeries CellTracksâ Analyzer II Breast Lung Melanoma Cancer type Tumor cells / 5mL LCR 100000 10000 1000 100 10 1 0,1
  • 13. LM and « CSFTCs » in Breast Cancer (BMC Clinical Pathology 2012) • Detection • Quantification: 1 to 103-4 • Characterization – Her2-Neu Specificity: no contaminating ependymal cells Sensitivity: detection and quantification in all established LM patients studied compared to cytology High homogeneity (and reproducibility) of images High purity compared to blood samples
  • 14. Sequential analysis of CSFTCs confirms repetability of numerations with two subgroups (high > 700/mL vs low) BMC Clin Pathol 2012 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Sample number Tumoral cells / 5 mL LCR 100000 10000 1000 100 10 1 0,1 DM CTC WA CTC CJ CTC DMB CTC VT CTC PV CTC BE CTC CS CTC HE CMC ST CMC DC CTC
  • 15. Melanoma CSFMCs Medical Oncology 2013; • CMC kit (J&J, VERIDEX) – CD146 capture, MEL14 , CD45 • Four patients 9 points • Good reproducibility during follow-up • Cell morphology of melanoma cells in CSF far better than in blood
  • 16. LUNG Cancer CSFTCs + CSFTMs Cytomorphology: cell galleries allow to differentiate SCLC, NSCLC (adenocarcinoma, squamous carcinoma) and detect apoptosis, autophagy... • Numerous CTMs in some NSCLC patients up to 80%, in sequential study
  • 17. CSFTCs: a new frontier! • Tumoral (epithelial) cells can be detected and quantified in CSF with the CellSearch® technology (CSFTCs) • Their numbers can be sequentially followed-up in breast, lung and other cancers – allowing to evaluate the efficacy of treatments (intrathecal and/or systemic) • Tumoral cell population in CSF might be different from blood CTCs, allowing further studies of metastatic properties • CSFMCs can also be detected and quantified in CSF
  • 18. … impossible to-day for ethical reasons in clinical research protocols • Implementation of regulations by administrations Samples for research! – Blood (Serum), Bone Marrow, CSF • Ethical constraints: pain, potential risks... – Patients'information with excessive precautionary principle – Collections' regulations:potential genetical studies, destruction of samples
  • 19. ...impossible for strict implementation of regulations of medical devices Use of unvalidated research only reagents Absence of previous clinical publication … to CE labelling requirements of everything used in IVDs (Pseudo) Quality control of research protocols by non-medics Exclusion of biologists from IVD clinical trials initiative!
  • 20. … impossible For costs of research • Exchange of « free » innovative reagents • Lack of funding for human-based IVDs research • to Crowdfunding?
  • 21. Consequences for clinical research in University Hospitals • Clinical research – Administration – Regression of biologists initiative – Strict clinical trials or Medical devices procedures applied to IVDs assays developments... although non interventional – Destruction of sera and cell collections – Decrease of LDTs developments
  • 22. Consequences for Laboratory Hospitals • Implementation of Quality procedures in University Hospitals CE labelling, Procedures Total Laboratory Automation Industry based only • Policy of reducing costs of healthcare – Biology is a commodity , first to be strangled? – Outsourcing
  • 23. Consequences For individuals For medical lab people Administrative burden Stress and burnout, Demotivation For technicians Procedures + commercial kits usage Loss of competences of technicians for research For future medical pathologists Less attractivity Teaching and Learning No hands on experience of trainees
  • 24. Some hopes in a troubled setting • Access to information – Curation tools to surf information overload (Scoop.it story) – Networking • Growing awareness of an evolving situation previously hidden • Article Clin Chemistry 2015 • USA: CDC CLICH • USA: LDTs discussion (Congress, FDA...) • USA: AJCP to attract young people • Africa and Asia... • From Big Data to knowledge network
  • 25. Access to information • Scoop.it – Curation tool – Among Immunological Topics – Medical Biopathology and Laboratory Medicine • On behalf of UEMS and EFLM DL/eL • http://www.scoop.it/t/medical-biopathology- and-laboratory-medicine
  • 26. Extracts of Clin Chemistry 2015 A more service and less academically oriented profession? We are on the same way of thinking... • « I have always strongly believed that the triad of clinical service, teaching and research should be the basis of laboratory medicine profession » (Mauro Panteghini)
  • 27. Extracts of Clin Chemistry A more service and less academically oriented profession: Situation analysis • In UK (France... Italy, Australia), it is difficult not to be pessimistic... (Ian Young) – The triple threat laboratory medicine professor has almost disappeared... (IY) – There is a loss of training positions (MO) – There is a reduction of technical and academic personnel and research infrastructure (MO) – There is a danger that the focus becomes the economies of the service rather than underlying value of a quality pathology service... managed by an organizational culture encouraging quality, innovation and a clinical focus (Ken Sikaris)
  • 28. What should be done? « Important to increase the awareness of the academic discipline by the public , by hospital and university administrators and health policy makers » (Michael Oellerich) This meeting, other meetings Actions of Medical and Biology societies
  • 29. CDC Number of biological assays • CLIHCs Impact on Patient Care CLIHCTM’s current focus explores the challenges clinicians face for appropriate laboratory test selection and result interpretation. Solutions for these challenges will improve utilization of laboratory services and a reduce diagnostic and treatment errors and delays.
  • 30. LDTs from CLIA to FDA Among other topics, the U.S. House Energy & Commerce Subcommittee on Health heard stakeholder opinions on whether lab-developed tests (LDTs) are a service or a medical product and whether the FDA’s proposed LDT regulation framework complements the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments (CLIA) on September 9, 2014.
  • 31. ASCP: Leading edge Attracting people (sept 2014) ..... they highlight the need for medical laboratory professionals, an important step in the effort to attract the best and the brightest to the laboratory workforce. “Essentially 100 percent of the patients entering hospitals across the United States today are dependent upon the work of the medical laboratory team,” Chakkaphak says in the special. ASCP collaborated with Leading Edge to create the segment, which is part of ASCP’s outreach to elevate awareness of the profession and build the future workforce.
  • 32. A global world is a challenge for infectious diseases and might be an opportunity • Africa/Asia... – Scientific meetings – CME/CPD
  • 33. Knowledge network opportunity of Big Data Team Science medicine.. For Rare Diseases and Personalized medicine • US Nat Acad Sci Metcalfe's law and the biology information commons Stephen H Friend & Nature Biotechnology 31, 297–303 (2013) doi:10.1038/nbt.2555 Published online 05 April 2013